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Posted by Levente Hungary (My Page) on Sat, Aug 4, 01 at 10:06
| Dear Hybrid Masters,
I've been looking for info on oak hybrids for a while on the Net with very limited success.
I could found several foot-note-like remarks as "hybridization within oak sections is generaly easy" and alike but I was unable to find exact data.
Could someone help me with a list of the latin names of quercus species that can form hybrids with others within the respective section?
Or could someone post a URL where I can found this info?
A similar list would do fine e.g.:
Q. alba x Q. macrocarpa = result (x Q. obscuriformis or any)
Thanks in advance,
Levente |
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RE: Hybrid oaks
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| Say you are looking to see whether a tree is a white oak or a red oak. Identification is complicated by the occurrence of hybrids, which often have quite variable leaves. All species are inclined to hybridize except that white oaks do not hybridize with red oaks. Since many hybrids lack fruit, it is a good idea to turn to neighboring trees with acorns. When these fertile trees have been named it is often possible to recognize a hybrid in respect to the two parents that are involved. Hybrids can often be recognized as hybrids if they cannot be "keyed out" and/or do not match any photographs and descriptions. Here is a partial list of native hybrid oaks: Quercus x anceps Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x bebbiana Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x bushii Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x deamii Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x exacta Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x fallax Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x fernowii Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x filialis Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x hillii Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x humidicola Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x jackiana Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x ludoviciana Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x palmeriana Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x runcinata Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x saulii Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x schochiana Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x schuettei Fagaceae Hybrid oak tree native - Quercus x tridentata http://waynesword.palomar.edu/hybrids1.htm If you go to this site there are some great pictures of hybrid oaks along with some other interesting plant hybrids. You will find the oak photos toward the middle of the site pages. I used to roam through the Bluff Woods Forest in Missouri and pick out hybrids between the black oaks and the red oaks. I had the description of each species with me to identify the hybrids. It was a lot of fun. Tom |
RE: Hybrid oaks
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| When I worked for the Forest Service in Northern Wisconsin some of my colleagues worked with oaks and their goal was to improve red oak. One of their frustrations was that pin and red oak easily crossed. Red oak acorns are generally larger than pin oak. For their experiments they would get acorn collections and through seives separate out different sized acorns and use the larger ones because they are assumed to have primarily red oak genes. What oaks are you planning on crossing? Too bad they seem so difficult to root cuttings from and clone superior selections. These researchers were able to have some success rooting cuttings from relatively young trees under certain conditions. I'm not sure how much grafting work has been done for propagation of superior clones. |
RE: Hybrid oaks
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- Posted by Laeka BaltMDz6b (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 5, 01 at 19:25
Levente, Order up a catalog from these folks: OIKOS Tree Crops P.O. Box 19425 Kalamazoo MI 49019-0425 Phone: (616) 624-6233 Fax: (616) 624-4019 They specialize in generating all types of really cool oak hybrids and they share what the parents were for each type. |
RE: Hybrid oaks
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There's a great chapter on hybridizing your own oaks, in the book "Breeding Ornamental Plants", Timber Press. I love this book, it also has chapters for several other genera. V |
RE: Hybrid oaks
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I have a little**red oak** with half leaves dark green and other part green nearly white.. Hendy |
RE: Hybrid oaks
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| Quercus gambelii, Quercus turbinella and Quercus undulata all cross readily here in the central Colorado Rockies. |
RE: Hybrid oaks
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Levente, I'll second the motion for OIKOS - I've gotten a number of my F2 hybrid seedlings from them. Another source of hybrid acorns is Starhill Forest Arboretum (email strhlfrst@aol.com for a catalog), though their usualy cut-off date for order placement is 15 Aug. You might be able to get them to grant an extension, or at least place you on the mailing list for next year. I got a few new hybrid acorns from a friend & fellow IOS member who was able to attend the 2000 IOS Conference in Asheville, NC last fall. Check out the IOS website, linked below, and consider joining, if you're not already a member. Currently, I have the following hybrids growing in my collection: Q.macrocarpaXrobur - seedlings & grafted "McDaniel" selection Q.macrocarpaXbicolor Q.macrocarpaXmichauxii Q.macrocarpaXmuehlenbergii Q.albaXrobur Q.roburXmontana(prinus) Q.bicolorXrobur Q.lyrataXvirginiana Q.virginianaXturbinella There may be others in the nursery, but these are all I can think of, off the top of my head. |
Here is a link that might be useful: International Oak Society
RE: Hybrid oaks
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Does anyone have a web address for Oinkos. Also a couple months ago in Mother Earth News, I saw an add for someone carrying hybrid oaks, but I misplace the web link. |
RE: Hybrid oaks
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RE: Hybrid oaks
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| Ive been trying to find hybrid oak seeds, does anybody know where to get them? |
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