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Raspberry x Blacberry hybrids

boizeau
14 years ago

Has anyone had good luck trying to cross Blackberry and Raspberry? Heard you can do it if the Raspberry is 4n.

Comments (13)

  • farmfreedom
    14 years ago

    Yes you can cross: raspberries , blackberries , mulberries , wineberries ,dewberries , tayberries , boisenberries ,loganberries , salmonberries ,black caps, can all crossbreed .
    There is even a "white blackberry" developed by Luther Burbank
    The Nothernmost most cold resistant fruits in the world are berries. We should be using the most cold resistant fruits in the world to extend the range of all berries that they can crossbreed with .

  • henry_kuska
    14 years ago

    See:

    http://www.rosehybridizers.org/forum/message.php?topid=2986

    for additional "possibilities".

    Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

  • tugbrethil
    14 years ago

    Wait a minute, farmfreedom! All of the brambles (blackberries, raspberries, etc.) are members of the rose family (Rosaceae), while mulberries are members of the Moraceae, along with figs and the rare succulent Dorstenia. There is virtually no structural similarity between the families: are you sure that mulberries and blackberries will hybridize?

    Kevin : )

  • farmfreedom
    14 years ago

    I believe if you look up the "TAY berry " or the "Logan berry " you will find that that is the cross breed. Also If this was not true How Did Luther Burbank develop the " White Blackberry " . He is also said to Have crossed Strawberries and Blackberries which I would like to see if anyone has a picture .
    The Nothernmost most cold resistant fruits in the world are berries. We should be using the most cold resistant fruits in the world to extend the range of all berries that they can crossbreed with .

  • tugbrethil
    14 years ago

    I'd like to see a strawberry/blackberry hybrid myself! At least they are in the same family.

    Tayberries and loganberries are various hybrids of blackberries and raspberries, not either of those with mulberries. BTW, another member of the Moraceae that I forgot is the hedge apple, or Osage orange.

    Kevin : )

  • farmfreedom
    14 years ago

    I stand corrected Tayberries and loganberries and boysenberries are considered "dew berries" and they are related to rasberries. they belong to the genus "Rubus"

  • farmfreedom
    14 years ago

    It appears the mulberries only looks like raspberries . the the mulberry family includes : breadfruit,hop,hemp (cannabis),fig and rubber plants, hedge apple, or Osage orange. and the paper mulberry (Broussonetia ).

    Now what did Luther Burbank use to breed the "white blackberry"

  • knock_on_wood
    14 years ago

    is it possible that if you mixed a common edible fruit with one with bad side effects it may be poisonous?

  • farmfreedom
    14 years ago

    Yes you can ! This was done with potatoes a while back to breed a pest resistant strain but they were poisonous to people.

  • knock_on_wood
    14 years ago

    hmm.... what about 2 edible plants? could they create a poison somehow?

  • farmfreedom
    14 years ago

    I suppose if you crossed an almond (which is grown for its seed ) and an apricot (which is grown for its fruit ) and tried to eat the seed you might have a problem if you were sensitive and ate enough of them . Apricot pits are high in laetrile ( Prussic acid ) .

  • tugbrethil
    14 years ago

    From a book I read--decades ago--about Luther Burbank, he used a yellow form of raspberry, and did multiple F2 and back crosses with blackberries to get the white color and fix it in a blackberry-type fruit. Reportedly, it tastes great, though I have never tried to grow it myself.

    On the poisonous edible plant front, I hear that a company tried to breed celery for insect resistance, using normal selective breeding, not genetic modification. They succeeded, but in the process of multiplying it up, they discovered that many of the field workers were having poison-ivy-like reactions to it! "They dug, and they burned, and they dug, and they burned...." I never was in love with celery, but that's ridiculous.

    Kevin : ])

  • keking
    13 years ago

    Burbank's White Blackberry is truly white. I saw the plant with fruit at the Burbank house in Santa Rosa.
    http://www.bulbnrose.org/Heredity/Burbank/WhiteBlackberry/WhiteBlackberry.html

    The Raspberry x Strawberry hybrid was highly interesting, but sterile.
    http://www.bulbnrose.org/Heredity/Burbank/Burbank_raspXstraw.html

    Karl

    Here is a link that might be useful: CybeRose & Bulbs

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