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anyone have hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'?

Posted by zanne_lh z6 NY (My Page) on
Sat, Sep 27, 08 at 8:41

Hi
Does anyone have Ryan Gainey? I'd like to know if the plant lives up to the sales hype. Is it really better than Annabelle; i.e., does it not flop when in bloom? How long do the blooms last? How large are the blooms? Will it really flower in deep shade? The site I am thinking of gets only a little morning light, and that's it. Any info appreciated!


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RE: anyone have hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'?

I have been wondering the same myself, zanne_lh. Since Mr. Ryan Gainey is such a famous gardener, I would hope that a hydrangea with his name would live up to the hype. He wrote a book with an odd title that I have never purchased but sporadically remember because it is funny... something along the lines of "The Well Placed Weed" or something like that. Well, I have a few of those every Fall. Hee hee hee.

So, does anyone have this arborescens hydrangea and can answer zanne_lh's questions?

Luis


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RE: anyone have hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'?

Here's what Don Shadow (Shadow Nursery,TN) has to say about the cultivar...

Hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'
'Ryan Gainey' is an excellent new selection of Hydrangea arborescens with darker green leaves, smaller flowers and thicker stems than Hydrangea arborescens 'Annabelle'
Note: "smaller flowers"!

You may want to look for a recently introduced H. arborescens cultivar 'Abetwo'(PPAF) , that has thicker stems and very large flowers, so say they! (link below). Being marketed as Incrediball, with the "Proven Winner" logo.
Rb

Here is a link that might be useful: Hydrangea arborescans 'Incrediball'


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RE: anyone have hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'?

Sorry,zanne_lh....
Didn't address your questions!
Any of the H. arborescens cultivars will have similar bloom times, as the species /late spring, into summer/.
They will bloom in the shade and in locations with limited sun/light exposure, but as with any flowering plant, the more sun/bright indirect light they receive, the more blooms they will produce.
I don't grow the cultivar, 'Ryan Gainey' and haven't found it at any of the local nursery outlets, nor is it available from the online source I frquently use.
I am personally aquainted with Ryan and have toured his garden. Do not recall seeing the Hydrangea namesake cultivar. He lives within 5 miles distance, across the street from a longtime friend and fellow gardener.
Rb


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RE: anyone have hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'?

thanks razorback! how great it must be to have toured his garden!

the incrediball is certainly that, and i love the greenish tinge that is similar to annabelle, but the size -- maybe it's a bit much?!

i have only seen a few images of ryan gainey (the plant), so i'm a bit hesitant about investing in it; i'm thinking 6 to 10 plants for landscaping the approach to my driveway, perhaps pairing them with blue billow.

i love the way annabelle looks, but the flopping doesn't sound so hot.


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RE: anyone have hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'?

zanne_lh....
I had forgotten about this form of arborescens. Found mine today, while watering a nearby macrophylla
It has stronger canes than 'Annabelle', plus the flowers on mine are smaller, so it remains very upright.

Hydrangea arborescens 'White Dome'
click to add titleHydrangea arborescens 'White Dome'

The flowers are lacecap form, like the wild form, which I happened to win as a door prize at yesterday's meeting of the American Hydrangea Society.

Hydrangea arborescens (Native "Wild" Form)
Hydrangea arborescens

I have 2 forms of H. radiata
(formerly listed as a subspecies of arborescens). They are cultivars, 'Samantha' and 'Eco Pink Puff'(a pink flowering form). 'Samantha' has been a wimpy one for me and has not grown well. EPP is a robust, upright, large cane cultivar, but flowers pink.

Thought you might be interested.
Rb


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RE: anyone have hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'?

thanks razorback! definitely very interesting to see the wild form. your white dome is stunning -- perhaps it may be a better match with my blue billow? i usually prefer the mopheads, but the site is wooded, so lacecaps would be a more naturalistic choice. can you tell me how much sun your white dome gets, and how large the flowerheads are? also, how tall/wide is it overall?

thanks for thinking of me while you were watering!


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RE: anyone have hydrangea arborescens 'Ryan Gainey'?

thanks razorback! definitely very interesting to see the wild form. your white dome is stunning -- perhaps it may be a better match with my blue billow? i usually prefer the mopheads, but the site is wooded, so lacecaps would be a more naturalistic choice. can you tell me how much sun your white dome gets, and how large the flowerheads are? also, how tall/wide is it overall?

thanks for thinking of me while you were watering!


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