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Flushing nutrients

plantboy_grower
16 years ago

Just thought you'd all want to know that I did run nothing but water through my garden for 7 days before eating the lettuce. I did notice a better taste after doing this (I had sampled a few leaves during the prior weeks so I could try to determine better - although I know this is not a completely good test)

What's funny is that if you think of letting the lettuce have two weeks as seedlings, then four weeks to grow, the flushing period was in that last fourth week (so it's not like the plants were setting around for an extra week), and still there was VERY significant growth that occurred during that week. I guess it really was using up leftover nutrients :) But then again I also made a PH correction - I had it at 5.5 and learned it should be 6.0 so maybe that did something too.

Now that I have a smaller reservoir as in another post I made tonight, (5 gallon bucket) I will be able to flush more easily and cheaply the way they recommend - with the sugary substitute and the calcium/iron substitute for three days, then four days with water - supposedly that makes it even better.

Flushing will be fine for crops that come to maturity, but, I long for an herb garden that will taste good picking it at any time like I would outdoors. I wonder how the aero garden tastes at any point in time and what nutrients it uses.

Comments (6)

  • grizzman
    16 years ago

    When I grew herbs in a bubbler system(basically a DWC type system in a glab disposable tub with an air stone) my nutrients were only miracle grow and epsom salts. I picked fresh off the vine frequently (grew italian parsley and basil) and never thought they had an 'off' flavor.
    Here is my recipe:
    make a concentrated solution of 2 TBSP of 15-30-15 general use miracle grow + 1 TBSP of epsom salts in 1 cup of water.
    The general hydroponic solution was 1 tsp of the concentrated solution per cup of water. I then adjusted the EC down by adding additional water. I think it ended up being about 1tsp per 1.1/2 to 2 cups of water. I kept the EC in the 1.2-1.6 range.
    Make sure to shake the concentrate between batches.

    The link below will let you see a handy conversion chart for various volume measures in case you need to make bigger (or smaller) batches.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Conversion Chart

  • plantboy_grower
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Cool thanks - yea I think I heard you on another thread saying about miracle grow and epsom salts - I was surprised to hear you can do hydro like this with all the hub-bub about a complete nutrient formula needed / lack of micronutrients in soil fertilizers (like miracle grow), etc.... I'm saving this link, may try it someday.

    I guess I don't know much about miracle grow though so I need to start there. Thanks!

  • grizzman
    16 years ago

    Its not a complete fertilizer, though it does contain some micronutrients. herbs are notoriously shorted lived crops so the effects of lacking micros doesn't really stifle the plant.
    If you plan on keeping them alive for an extended period of time, I'd recommend adding some african violet fertilizer as it does contain all the micronutrients. I haven't calculated how much is needed in the concentrate though, so you're on your own.

  • iliketoast
    16 years ago

    I must say that, despite my utter disdain for organics, and even putting aside my blinding love for pesticides, herbicides, and fungicides, I can't wrap my head around the concept of 'flushing'.

    I could not imagine harvesting lettuce from my regular garden, shaking off the dirt from the roots, and then starving it by giving it only water for a week before eating it, and expect it to taste better.

    Do we not all agree that the chemical nutrients we are putting in our hydroponics systems are only refined versions of what is in the ground already? I thought we all believed that those chemicals were GOOD things. Where am I going wrong here? If anyone thought the nutrients were bad for humans, they'd stick with regular gardening, right? Why do hydroponics in the first place if you believe well fed plants don't taste good or are somehow bad for you?

  • plantboy_grower
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    iliketoast: I don't know my stance on the issue of taste as-of yet. I am told that a tomato, for example, can have a somewhat metallic taste to it without flushing, and it would be sweeter if flushed first. I'm just saying what I've been told mostly, because my experiment was not accurate enough to say anything for sure. To be sure I'd have to have two identical hydroponic systems and flush one and not the other.

    Perhaps there is still something about organic dirt gardens vs. our standard hydroponic setups that is different from a standpoint of flushing and taste. I don't know.

    Here is a website - I haven't read it all yet but maybe it's a description of what needs to be checked out:
    http://www.1-hydroponics.co.uk/transcript-growth-cycles.htm

    Quote:

    "
    You will find at this point, 3 weeks before harvest, the plants are going to be sucking up a whole tank at least a tank a week. So, youÂre going to be filling up that tank possibly on a daily, or a bi-daily basis. And once youÂve filled it up over the course of the week, then go back on to your [picks up bottles] Bloom A and your Bloom B and not using your PK13/14 anymore. At that point, when youÂre 1 week away from harvesting, 1 week away from cropping your plants, what we highly recommend doing is emptying out the reservoir, filling the reservoir up with nothing but clean water, ph adjust it to a ph of 6 and then feed the plants nothing but clean water for 1 week. This is what they call flushing.

    It benefits multi levels. One it benefits the system because it gets rid of any nutrient build up in the pebbles themselves, two it benefits the plant because it actually encourages the plant to take all the nutrient out of it, itself. If youÂre growing fruit or veg, or any plant that is consumed, if you donÂt flush it at the end in a hydroponic system, you end up [picks up bottles] with an excessive amount of nutrient build up in the plant and that can make the plant taste quite bitter. So itÂs fundamental to flush the system and the plants for 1 week before harvest and that point youÂre ready to crop the plants and start again. Job done.
    "

  • kilimats
    16 years ago

    plantboy_grower thanks for sharing this info

    I will give this a try once my tomato plant / or lettuce are ready (in a month or two)