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Posted by Prospero8888 Singapore (My Page) on Mon, Nov 17, 03 at 3:11
| Ah, a new forum, great! I am at my wit's end with these things. I keep buying them and they keep dying on me, but I can't resist them (New Guinea Impatiens that is).
I first tried them in the shade of some palms in the garden, but they croaked. Then I thought they might prefer to be in the house, just beside a window and a door. I am in the tropics and humidity is high, so I thought they would be all right as long as there is no direct sun. I take care not to overwater. Still they refuse to play ball.
I am contemplating giving up altogether on them. Of course I keep saying this each time I bid another one farewell, but when I see them at a garden centre my resolve crumbles.
Please can someone advise? At present I have 2 that are slowly drooping...
Prospero |
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RE: New Guinea Impatiens just won't survive!
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| hi: I have just two suggestions......... First, your soil must be well drained and second impatients luv to be fed on a regularly basis.......mine seem to be enjoying life since I have followed this suggestions. |
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Prospero Well I would never give up on them one of the joys is that they are so easy to get. I am wonder if you might be to hot and humid for them. Do they start to die in the heat? In Florida they grow them in the winter because the summers are to hot and humid and they just die away. You live in the land of Impatiens there are about 200 or more native species in your neck of the woods. You may want to look into those as well some of the most beautiful species are in Asia. I would be more than happy to trade cuttings with you that is for sure. :) Derick |
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| At the time of writing I think those 2 are beyond redemption. I don't know if it is the heat and/or the humidity. Maybe they don't like my house! I really think maybe I should steer clear of the NGI but try the normal impatiens which might be less finicky. I had no idea there are 200 impatiens native to Asia! Now you have spurred me to try and locate at least some of these. For inspiration, could you let me know some of their names? |
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| hi guys, here in bangkok i have successfully grown impatients balsamica,wallerina n new guinea. the wallerina one i grow in hanging basket in the shade under my mango tree...and they grow yr round. The balsamica will def grow in singapore - they are so super heat hardy. You scatter the seeds and they grow like anything. Mine are growing in full sun. The new guionea hybrids, like what derick said, here in bangkok they are sold during our cool season. however up north they grow yr round as the weather is cooler there. Currently my new guinea ones are grown in the soil with morning sun (during this season the sun is quite strong as there are no clouds to block it - we have no more rains) and they grow just leaves, However during the rainy season they flower. And yes, the soil cannot be heavy soggy clay. Should have some sand incorporated into it. Would love to find out how you do....I am also interested in growing impateints...and if anyone else in the true tropics are growing impatients..would love to hear from you!! |
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Prospero Boy I cant name all of them but a few that are around there are impatiens mirabilis which is very big in the wild close to 10 feet it grows like a succulent. Impatiens oncidiodes from Thailand very pretty plant looks a lot like an oncidium orchid but may need cooler weather I not really sure on that. Impatiens arguta from China likes the heat of my garden in California pretty blueish flowers. An African that may take the heat is Impatiens niamniamensis this one some what common but still on the rare side. Impatiens balsamina of course is a vary good choice. There are so many more they are mostly in the high hills and mountains would make a fun hike I am sure. Best time I hear is soon after the rainy season. Derick |
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| Thanks momiji and Derick for giving me a few pointers. I don't want to give up on impatiens and will certainly give the others a whirl, provided I can find them. I think I will try the busy lizzies (walleriana) and balsamina first while keeping an eye out for the others you mentioned Derick. Only because I will at least recognise them when shopping around. I am down to 1 last NGI, those 2 that prompted me to start this post have gone to plant heaven, bless 'em. |
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| And just to prove me right, or spite me, my last NGI has given up the ghost. Never again! Now if only I can find the other types of impatiens.... |
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| Hi Prospero I've seen New Guinea impatiens growing well in Singapore in private gardens under relatively cool, semi-shaded conditions and observed it there for more than a year. There did not appear to have much care given to the plant. Did your NG impatiens show new leaves which are small and wrinkled, and refuse to bloom? If they did its probably cyclamen mite infestations. They are very common in plants bought from nurseries. My late NGI were murdered by these mites. I have stopped buying plants which are very susceptible to these pests. |
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| Hi there, Chaconnesque, my trials and tribulations with NGIs seem so far away now that I have given up on them. As I recall, they seem to grow normal leaves and flower for a while before biting the dust. My feeling is that I could not find the right spot in the garden for them. But thanks for the tip about cyclamen mites, I will look out for them. I still think NGIs are stunning, just not meant for me perhaps. |
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In my experience,New Guinea impatiens need 100 % shade. They will thrive. But if you're like me and don't have any spots in the garden with 100 % shade, then next best thing is morning sun,and shade in afternoon. But they will need extra watering to prevent wilting. Only feed them a couple of times in spring,and no more, otherwise they will mainly produce leafs and not many flowers. They look stunning,with such big butterfly style flowers. And each different flower colour plant,has a different colour stem. I'm not allowed to goto the impatiens section of the garden centre,because I can't be trusted.I'd buy every colour availble. :) |
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| well as for not likeing the heat and humidity,i live in zone 7 delaware and its humid as i dont know what.i grow these beautys all summer everysummer and the kiey ive found is a slow realease fert. and plenty of water. cant let them dry out alot |
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| i even planted them one year in full sun and they did wonderfully and thrived,but i was always watering them so yes some shade is needed |
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| I've had no problem with them. There are three things that are important: 1. Make sure that the weather has thoroughly warmed before you put them out. 2. New Guinea Impatiens WILL NOT do well in shade. I'm not sure why others are saying they will but they're wrong. The regular impatiens will tolerate very little sun but the New Guinea needs it. I raise them where they get about 4 hours per day of sunlight and they do well. I don't know if they'd like more sun or not but I do know that they don't like full shade. 2. Give them plenty of water. They can't stand in mud but the soil should be kept moist. |
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| Hi All, Like Prospero, I had a collection of New Guinea Impatiens that I had put in hanging baskets on our mostly shaded deck die off catastrophically over a period of two or three weeks. We were living in the St. Louis area at the time. They were growing and blooming nicely, just like they were in the greenhouse where we bought them. I fed them occasionally with a little dilute Miracle-Gro for Tomatoes, which seemed to work fine for several months. I watered them with captured rainwater to avoid city chlorine/fluorine. They also got quite a bit of natural rainfall. They went so fast from growing and blooming luxuriantly to wilting and dying suddenly that it seemed to me that they must have caught some virulent fatal virus. Other plants on the deck were unaffected, so I disposed of the dead and dying New Guinea Impatiens as if they were a bio-hazard to the rest of our plants. I disposed of the plants and the containers in which they were growing. In retrospect, considering what others have said here about growing them in a well drained medium, the problem may have been the hanging basket growing containers. They were filled with the kind of sphagnum moss that is usually put in hanging baskets. That stuff is very water retentive -- the opposite of sand -- and it may have "drowned" their roots. Or maybe they did die of some sort of disease. Or could the urea content in the Miracle-Gro in a sterile growing medium have been the culprit? I recently heard that urea is inappropriate for soilless growing media and inappropriate for foliar feeding, although I find both things somewhat hard to believe. Is perlite useable instead of sand to create a well-drained growing mix for New Guinea Impatiens? -- Burton -- |
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| I grow New Guineas outside and have brought them in in the winter. My best suggestions are indirect sunlight outside. It is true they need good draining soil and much water. Her in Michigan, they must be watered daily in the hot summer. I bring those same plants inside for the winter and they flower inside under lights. They must be watered every other day or they just wilt. You know it is the water, when the new guiniea just plane falls over. Don't wait that long!!! Since you seem to be spending much money on buying more at the garden center, let me make a suggestion. I just learned they can be rooted. I was trimming mine inside and just for heck of it, I stuck the cuttings in water in a jar in the window. Nothing special. In less then a week, little roots starting growing, and voila! 5 new babies. I grow them from seed also, but this is even easier since they are a little tricky to grow from seed. I planted them at two weeks and they have just taken off. I know others here suggest a little more involved way to root them, but the simplest seems to work also. Maybe when you do get a couple of them growing well, you can try this. Just cut 2-3" for the outer section of the plant, just about a node. Stick it in water, you can add a little liqiud fertilizer if you like, and wait a week or so. This may save you some money. Good luck. |
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Jagodzinski sorry I have to disagree with you.New Guiena do best in bright shade. I only grow mine in shade,and they stay alive all year. I have 4 that are now 3 years old,in the ground. They never come inside.They stay in the ground all year round. They grow big and bushy,and with lots of flowers all year round,even in winter ! I know they can tolerate direct sun for at least 4 hours,but in summer they do not appreciate it. And I bet you have to water them more often,than if they were kept in shade. And beside, the tag with growing directions says full shade, or half filtered light. Why would the tag lie? |
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| every one pretty much hit upon the problem, they can't take the heat. You'd thing new Guinea wold be hotter than here, but it's not as dry, Keep in the shade, well drained soil |
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| I can't get New Guinea Impatience to live either. They don't grow much and then one day they are wilted and die.I don't have any trouble with others and had doubles last year and they did great. kept one in window and am starting new ones and they are growing. won't try NGI's again. |
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| Attached link (you will need Acrobat) has information on growing NGI. Really targeted to commercial growers, but it does provide information on temps, water, fertilizer, growing medium, etc. Hope this helps, Chris |
Here is a link that might be useful: Growing New Guinea Impatiens
RE: New Guinea Impatiens just won't survive!
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- Posted by anav8r z6 far east PA (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 25, 04 at 16:44
| Mine are surviving and growing, but hardly bloom. They are in a pot with a drainage hole and the plants seem healthy, but all I am getting is leaves, with a flower once in a while. I have sprinkled a slow release fertilizer on the dirt. |
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| i recently inherited a new guinea impatiens, purple flowers, from a neighbor (actually, housemate; we live in a 3 family house). she ]bought it, stated that since i had a 'ggreen thumb', i could take care of it. folks, i am an AMATEUR and truly know nothing about plants. i have been lucky, in that perhaps i do have a bit of a green thumb (tho it gives me chills tol say that), since i have had luck over the years in saving and/or keeping housplants alive through basic common sense and intuition. however, this NGI is freaking out. she was left outside during our first mini heat wave here in fairfield county, ct, and at first seemeed to be enjoying the heat and sunlight. then i put her in a shaded (for about half the day) part of our porch. i finally brought her in abot 1 week ago. at first, it was strange....she bloomed all the suddden with each move, at least new buds....then after a day or two, all the buds fried as did some of the leaves. each time i moved her, she seemed to revive; right now she is in a portion of my sun porch, whereshe gets about 4 hrs orf filterede sunlight a day, acutally probably a bit jmore. it is quite sad, as each day now she seems to be losing a cluster or a few of leaves; is there anything i can do to save her? it has been a helluva a hot and humid summer bere in lower CT/NYC. any suggestions are so welocmed please email me at: amelia68_2000@yahoo.com if you wish!!! thanks!!! |
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Could not "open" the link provided by guanabanaboy (above), but my question is about the soil used, and possibly the insects present. Maybe they should return to their sources and do some inquiring about these possible sources of trouble. No retail establishment wants troubles like outlined above, and I should think that if the managers or owners were approached they would try their best to satisfy their customers. It certainly would not hurt. Try it. |
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| I lived in South Dakota for 50 years. Then moved to Kansas for 4 years, and now live in Cancun. I have always grown the New Guinea Impatiens, in South Dakota even in full sun, although they took a lot of water. They grew to be huge shrubs, even with our short growing season, so I do know how to garden a bit. I was so excited when I moved to Cancun in the Hotel Zone to grow these. They are beautiful plants in the nursery. I have now killed 3, even during the winter. I have tried full shade and 4 hours a day sun. I have even tried indoors since I thought it may be the salt air. The plants do not grow, and the leaves start turning brown and drying up almost immediately. I have not transplanted the last 2. They have good drainage. The last one I did not fertilize at all. Any suggestions? This is my favorite flowering plant and I want to grow it. By the way, I did find the correct link to the reference above. It was no help to me but may help others. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Growing New Guinea Impatiens
New Guinea Impatiens in the greenhouse.
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| Can anyone tell me if New Guinea Impatiens will survive in a greenhouse over the winter. I love these flowers so much that I just can't let them die in the cold winter weather. I have quite a few large plants in different colors that I placed in the greenhouse just before the first frost here in Gaithersburg, Md. i'm also keep orchids and other impatien seedlings and New Guinea cuttings. Any information would be very helpful. |
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