Help with a few ID's

10 years ago

If anyone has a clue to any of the following irises I would be very happy.

I got this one as an extra from a nursery here in Slovenia. They didn't give me any name, but I checked their catalogue the only similar looking was "Blue Shimmer" however I think this is not it, as mine is more ruffled.

I posted a picture of this one in a previous post. It is a good grower, long lasting flowers. Probably an older variety?

This one is too probably an older iris? When it first opens it is really dark and velvety and turns to the shade on the photo after some sunlight exposure.

I don't know anything about this one besides getting it from a neighbor who got it from an old aunt of hers.

This last one is kind of similar to the iris "Wabash", but as you can see the crest has that specific speck of purple and they just don't match.

I suspect all of them to be probably older varieties since Irises are not such a popular plant here in Slovenia and there are not many new ones to be found (we have just one commercial hybridizer in the whole country and even his crosses are probably not registered with the AIS).

Thank you very much for any answers.

Ivan

Comments (5)

mamabear
10 years ago
Just got done looking at this Historical Site.
http://hips-roots.com/visitors/v-photos/vp-topframe.html
First could be Stepping out
Dark Purple one Could Amas
And Last one Could be a Form of Wabash
Check them out!

Here is a link that might be useful: Historical Site
chadinlg Zone 9b Los Gatos CA
10 years ago
The first one looks like Rococo, Schreiner '59

Here is a link that might be useful: link that might work :)
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Ivan21
Original Author
10 years ago
I have Stepping Out and it's a darker purple.

Rococo seems to fit very well :).

Thank you both for the suggestions.
irisrover
10 years ago
Hard to tell: first possibly Belle Meade
Pink: Pink Sensation?
Black: Sable
#4: Helen Collingwood
#5 Lothario?
iris_gal
10 years ago
Hello Ivan

You have a good eye for detail. Many pictures online have inaccurate colors. And some are mis-named. I looked only at pictures of iris older than 1959.

1. (Blue Shimmer look-alike) (drought can reduce ruffles)
'Dotted Swiss' - Sass'56, has more ruffle. The 3 pictures I have seen look like 3 different iris. The photo with DMI typed in it was the best match - can't find that site.
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2. older pink with orange beard

'Apricot Supreme' - 2 pics not the same

'Cloudcap' - at greenhorn (can't find that site anymore)

'Love Story' - Sapp'48, looks paler than yours. (picture at Brighton Park)

'Mme. Francois Debat' - Cayeux'57, has the darker hafts but the beard looks looser. (picture from irislanthelme - can't find the pages with named pics anymore)

'Native Dancer' - Fay'54, the standards have notched edges in the picture.

Valimar - Hamblen'56
Picture from irislanthelme
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3. dark purple with 1/2 gold and 1/2 lav-purp beard and small spray

'Concord Velvet' - Crosby'52, picture is maroon (argyle acres)

'Deep Black' - 1955, good match but not listed in the AIS 1950s introductions list (at irisparadise)

'Sable' - 1940's, fall edges lighter
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4. almost white over purple blend

'Margarita' - Schreiner'68 (I had an impossible time to photograph this with true fall color)
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5. (Wabash look-alike) (Wabash has purple base foliage)

Amigo - Williamson'34

Bright Hour - Douglas'52, no purple base foliage

Melody - Sass'54 (Amigo x Wabash) - has the smaller veined area like yours