The ones that I have planted before were from the grocery store, just dry beans. They came up in about 6 days and were bush beans, about 2' high.

They are delicious as shellys and snapped. But they gave me and my Step Aunt gas so bad! I don't plant them anymore because of that!

I have planted them too. wertach gives you accurate information. They do not need support.

We weren't crazy about the flavor, but that is always a matter of taste. I find crowders to be far more productive in a much shorter period of time.