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| The winter solstice has come and gone and days are getting longer. Well, at least a second or two longer. The SSE Yearbook is still a month or so away but here is a preliminary list. Bush Beans Runner Bean Pole Beans |
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- Posted by sweetquietplace 6 WNC mt (My Page) on Fri, Dec 21, 12 at 9:02
| Great list. I haven't tried every bean on it, but I sure can give five stars to the Anellino Giallo and Blue Greasy Grit. |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Fri, Dec 21, 12 at 11:14
| I've been working on my list, so many I want to try but space to grow them all, a problem :(. Once again most will be grown for seed and hopefully a taste but there are a couple we can eat the heck out of ;o). These three for sure... And this is my (to pick from) list for the coming year... Blue Jay/bush Now that we can edit our posts I will come back when the beans are actually in the ground and revise my list if necessary. Annette
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- Posted by roper2008 7a-8 (lroper99@yahoo.com) on Fri, Dec 21, 12 at 14:48
| Well here is my little list. Christmas Pole Lima |
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| SQP, I got Anellino Giallo in a swap from GW member Hemnancy. It was a big surprise. It was good as a young wax bean but even better as the seeds matured. It was tender and string free even when the pods started to dry. It took restraint to let any of them dry out. They hold on the vine for weeks before they dry so I plan to start several in pots to make seed saving easier. Blue Greasy Grit also sounds like a winner. That one came from Annette and I plan to start some of those in pots too to extend the season. So many beans, Annette, so little time! - Dick |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Sat, Dec 22, 12 at 10:02
| Anellino Giallo, Anellino Yellow, are they the same bean? I have Anellino Yellow, sounds like another one I should be adding to my list :). Annette |
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| Annette, a number of websites say that they are two names for the same bean. The ones I grew had black seeds. They were later than other snaps and it was October 7 when a few pods started to dry. They held on the vine so long that we had some on November 1. No strings. I am planning a 14 foot row with half started in pots. This really is a first class snap and it was a great way to start DW enjoying snaps fat with seeds. Regarding BJBB, I have not heard of anyone in the PNW having success growing Limas. If anyone can do it, it would be you. - Dick |
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- Posted by crnagora95 9 (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 1:47
| I haven't looked at this forum for awhile; I was so happy to see a 2013 Growlist thread! Here's my partial list: Comtesse de Chambord Pole: Bosnian Pole I am sure that this list will change as I acquire more varieties or decide that some can wait until 2014. |
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| My initial thoughts until the SSE Yearbook is released. Bush-Snap Bush-Dry Pole-Snap Pole-Dry Cowpeas Yardlong Dean |
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| Here is my list: Lazy Wife pole Snowball pole Malibu pole Garafal Oro Kwintus Helda Yellow McCaskin Violet Podded pole Super Marconi Dade Speckled Cranberry Florida Speckled Alston Mix BJBB (saved from 4 per pod) Gigandes Most of these will be planted in four inch pots near the end ot this month. I have only 75 feet of row for pole beans. Since I want to save the Dade seed, I plan to interplant the Dade and something else in my wife's 60 row-feet of sunflowers on the other end of the garden. Does anyone think Gigandes will work interplanted with sunflowers? |
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| Bush Bean List Buerre De Rocquncourt Chestnut Flavoured Cofinel Jembo Polish Odawa Shin Kintoka Tsunetomi Nagauzura Pole Beans Thanks for the trades Annette. Cheers Marj |
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| "Bush Bean List ... Jembo Polish" "Jembo Polish" is a pole bean. Are you sure you don't mean "Jumbo"? |
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| The Jumbo Polish listed at SSE is also a pole bean and appears to be an incorrect spelling of Jembo. They are listed as having the same source and the source spells it Jembo. Then there is also Jembo Horticultural pole. SSE has dozens if not hundreds of duplicate entries with different names or the same bean listed in different categories. Keeps it interesting. - Dick |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Fri, Jan 25, 13 at 11:58
| Hi Marj good to 'see' you here and you're welcome. Maybe we can do another trade in the fall I have some 'new to me' ones :). You have "Rampicanta Scossesse" on your list, can you tell me a little more about this one, is it used as a snap bean or dry? Annette |
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| Annette all I know about this one is that it can be used for fresh eating or as a dry bean. Will try to find out more about it and let you know. Marj |
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| I have one more to add to my Pole bean list Mona Chello also a rare Italian Pole. |
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- Posted by tormato 10 (dwcmuseum@yahoo.com) on Fri, Jan 25, 13 at 16:09
| My garden, this year, will largely be the great unknown, again. I have about 20 different lines of a cross of Jeminez that I'm working on. My first "stable" bean (Flamingo - a bright pink pole wax) came last year. But, four new color/shapes showed up last year, also. One step forward, four steps back. Gary |
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| Hi Dick. Ever thought about cowpeas? During my web wanderings, whenever I see something that grows well in a "cool, short season", I think of you lol. Therefore, I provide the link below, for your consideration *smile*. Now, if for some reason, you don't care for cowpeas, then...um...nevermind. Rick |
Here is a link that might be useful: Fagiolino Dolico di Veneto Cowpea
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| Hi Rick, Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think I have ever seen a cowpea in my life except in some of Zeedman's and other GW photos. Annette reports that she has not had much success with them in our climate but the one in you link might work here. Victory Seeds farm runs about 5-10 degrees F warmer than here in the summer. - Dick |
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| Here's my list so far, barring trades or an additional purchase. I've decided I like the beans that have edible pods more than the shelly type of bean which develope tough pods which are not edible and must be shelled to eat just the bean. I'm also not growing my favorite and most productive bean this year, Runner bean Insuk's Wang Kong, to grow some white-seeded runner beans instead. I have gotten a few white beans when growing IWK last year. Snap bush beans Bush shell beans Pole Snap beans Peas |
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| Hemnancy, that is an interesting list. I am looking forward to growing your black seed Anellino Giallo again this year. This time I plan to start some in pots. Your summers start earlier than mine, but it is still remarkable that you can plant out Pisarecka Zlutoluske wax in mid-April. Can it tolerate some frost? - Dick |
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| Pisarecka Zlutoluske is very cold tolerant. The 30 year temperature lows for here are above freezing by April 15, though I guess a cold snap can always happen. When I have planted PZ on that date it survived and produced several years. I think Runner beans can maybe be planted out by then here too. I used to wait until June 15 to plant pole beans until I saw one volunteer more like May 15 so I moved my planting dates to May 15 then fill in where I need to if they aren't growing by June 15, which is still the deadline I like to plant beans by, unless they are short season enough to plant later. It is warmer here, I haven't had to start beans early in pots. Another thing I do to plant earlier is to put my TunLCovers on the rows to dry them out for a couple of weeks before planting, since they keep the rain off underneath, so I don't have to plant into cold wet mud. I tried measuring temperatures under the tunnels and in the ground and got a 10*F difference. I tried leaving the tunnels on after planting but that didn't work well because the voles went crazy under cover of the tunnels and ate the seeds. I do leave the tunnels on tomato, squash, and cucumber plants successfully. My present regime is to put a lot of lava rock into the furrow when planting the beans and sprinkle cayenne pepper on them and stick in a 4" nail by each pole bean seed (caution!, danger!) to protect it from burrowers from below. I don't use the nails so much with bush beans, voles don't bother them as much as pole beans, which they like to nip off above ground after they've been growing up the trellis. PZ is a nice heirloom wax bean, more pencil thin whereas King Longhorn that I tried last year is bigger and wider. I like to grow PZ to get some earlier beans. |
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- Posted by BlueJay-77 5 (My Page) on Mon, Feb 11, 13 at 18:05
| Hi Everyone ! Speaking of bean varieties I just thought I would clue the bean lovers into another bean website I found recently. No info on the beans, but the pictures are fun to look at and wonder about growing some of these. I think the site is based in Germany. http://www.bohnen-atlas.de/sorten/e/176-engelsbohne |
Here is a link that might be useful: A Bean Collector's Window
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| Nice find, Bluejay... bookmarked for in-depth review. Thanks. |
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| Hemnancy thank you for the information about Pisarecka Zlutoluske and how you grow them. Russ, that site is quite the find. Looks like your Holy bean may be a snap after all. - Dick |
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| "I don't think I have ever seen a cowpea in my life..." Well Dick, how's about a Tepary bean then lol? I have never seen one of those, but I'm gonna give them a whirl this year. Looks like the Black Mitla might work for ya. Rick |
Here is a link that might be useful: Backyard Beans & Grains - Black Mitla Tepary
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| Thank you Rick. Linden has even cooler summers than we do! - Dick |
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- Posted by BlueJay-77 5 (My Page) on Thu, Feb 14, 13 at 12:35
| Hi Everyone ! Glad you liked the bean website from Germany. My bean website has brought me contact with a woman gardener in Austria who sent me the link for that site. It is really something. Another nice little resource. I didn't realize there was actually some information in those headings below the variety name........Duhhh!, as I can't read very much German although I know that bohne is bean. However thanks to Drloyd I now know which heading gives you alternate or synonymous names of the variety. Which one of those headings gives you it's general usage of the variety? Snap/French or dry? Here is another website for everyone who enjoys beans. You might want to look into. It's based in the UK. Don't know if anyone here has come across this site yet. I traded beans with this gal who has the site. She is a Garden Organic employee. This link is mainly the bean section of the "Linear Legume" It's another site you can spend hours on.
Happy Browsing |
Here is a link that might be useful: The Linear Legume
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| Russ it appears that I was incorrect about the German site. I noticed that they also label borlotto type beans as "French" beans when translated by Google. So I did a bit more work and found that "Stangenbohne" means pole bean rather than snap bean. Dick |
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- Posted by BlueJay-77 5 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 17, 13 at 10:32
| Dick thanks for that piece of information. I noticed some of the photos on that German site have hand written on a little piece of paper BB which I'm asuming might mean Bush Bean. |
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- Posted by MassachusettsGrower 5 (My Page) on Fri, Mar 8, 13 at 10:29
| I'm just surprised that you plan to grow both bush and pole beans as most decide they strongly prefer one or the other for this or that reason. |
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| Here's my planned list, as long as all the ones on order arrive without issue. Many of the beans are being trialled (small-scale) for flavour and production in cool, coastal climate. ~Tatiana BEANS: Bush - Beurre de Rocquencourt Pole - Emerite Runner - Desiree (white-flowered) PEAS: ps. Hi Annette! I met Shirley at Seedy Saturday and she said we should get in touch. |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Fri, Mar 8, 13 at 17:57
| Hi and welcome to the forum Tatiana, I see by your list you found the 'Samos Greek Lima' or if you haven't I can spare a few, shoot me an email through GW. I only trialled a couple of plants to see how they'd do up my way, they grew and produced well for me, didn't taste them as I wanted to save the seed. Whether they have the same flavor as the 'Gigandes' I'm growing is yet to be determined. I only grow one runner each year because they so easily cross. This year it's going to be 'Gigandes' again, hope to have enough for a couple of feeds plus some seed this time around. As a fresh shelly the flavor is outstanding, can hardly wait. You can see by my list I grow mostly pole beans but do have a couple of bush varieties, my list seems to be changing from day to day as new to me beans come my way :). As far as peas go only one, it's going to be the purple snow pea 'Shiraz' from seed I saved last year. Annette |
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| Here is my list Pole Beans ALABAMA #1 AUNT ADA'S AUNT JEAN'S BIG MAMA BINGO BLAUHILDA BLUE MARBUTT BLUE LAKE BOSNIA CASCADE GIANT DADE DAVIS BLACK BEAN EARLY RISER EMERITE FLAMINGO FORTEX GOLDEN GATE GOLDMARIE GOOD MOTHER STALLARD GOOSE GRANDMA ROBERTS HAWIIAN new need info HELDA HICKMAN IDEAL MARKET JIMINEZ JUANITA SMITH KENTUCKY BLUE KY.WONDER WAX KWINTUS LA.PURPLE POD LAZY WIFE LINGUE DI FUOCO aka TONGUE OF FIRE McCASLAN MARIBU MARENGO ROMANO MARGARET'S BEST GREASY MARVEL OF VENICE MEEK'S RUNNING MONTIE CRISTO MUSICA NECKAGOLD NEON GOOSE NORTHEASTER PEBBLES new need info PINK HALF RUNNER POLISH PURPLE PODDED POLE RATTLE SNAKE RAJAS DE SADA new need info ROMANO SNOW BALL GREASY new need info SPECKLED CRANBERRY SULTAN'S EMERALD CRESCENT/ S GREEN CRESCENT STRIP4ED BUNCHC SUPER MARCONI TN.GREASY TRIONFO VIOLETO TRUE RED CRANBERRY TURKEY CRAW/GIZZARD UNCKLE WALT'S VERMONT CRANBERRY VIOLET PODDED STRINGLESS ZELMA ZETTA
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| this is my bush bean list BLACK BEAN BLUE LAKE BLACK TURTLE BOBIS D' ALBENJA new need info CHEROKEE WAX COCO NOIR DRAGON LANGERIE aka DRAGON TONGUE DWAFT BORLOTTO ned info EARLISERVE need info FIN DE BAGNOL FRENCH NAVY need info GREEK LANDRETH STRINGLESS LANDSTAR need info LIGHT RED KIDNEY NOYOCABA aka CANARY BEAN NAVY NANO CANNELLINO need info ORCA PEREGION PROVIDA RED CALYPSA ROYAL BURGANDY TAYLOR CRANBERRY TENDERGREEN IMPROVED THIBODEAU DU COMPTE BEAUCE TIGER'S EYE VERMONT CRANBERRY VITTORIA need info YING YANG |
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| My lima/butter bean list ALABAMA BLACK ALSTON COLLECTION BIG FROSTY BLACK JUNGLE BLACK STAR BUTTERBEAN COLORED CALICO CAROLINA RED CHRISTMAS FLORIDA SWPECKLED HOPI POLE J.POTTES LAUDERMILK LYNCH COLLECTION MEZCLA NORTH POLE OLD TIME FENCE OLD TIME PINK AND WHITE PIMA ORANGE RED BUTTER PEA RED CALICO SHANTI BOAT POLE SNOW ON THE MOUNTAIN VIOLET'SW MULTICOLORED WHITE BUTTERPEA POLE WILLOW LEAF WILLOW LEAF COLORED Bush lima/butterbeans DIXIE WHITE BUTTERPEA DIXIE SPECKLED BUTTERPEA HENDERSON JACKSON WONDER THOROGREEN |
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| My cowpea list ALSTON BLACK BLACK CROWDER CANIDE FAIRCHILD GEORGIA HUSTLER GERALD'S COLLECTION JOE'S SPECKLED HARICOT ROUGE BURKINA FASO HERCULES HOLSTEIN OZARK RAZORBACK PIGGOTT PIGOTT FAMILY PINK EYE PURPLE HULL RED BISBEE TEXAS LONGHORN TONI'S RED FIELD |
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- Posted by sweetquietplace none (My Page) on Sun, Mar 10, 13 at 16:10
| Very darned impressive, hementia8. Please describe the difference between Piggott and Pigott Family. Which one do you like best? Thank you. |
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| My PIGOTT FAMILY HEIRLOOM from Sand Hill and PIGGOTT PEA S.C.Crop Improvement Assoc neither meet the description in the SSE Year Book Both are redish brown.more like RED RIPPER and RED BISBEE whereas the yearbook varieties over the years state they are grey seeded. Charlie |
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- Posted by sweetquietplace none (My Page) on Sun, Mar 10, 13 at 19:07
| Thank you. I'm trying the little red jobbies from SC this year. |
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| "Here is my list Pole Beans... bush bean list... lima/butter bean list... cowpea list..." Wow... I think I'm getting dizzy... can't feel my legs... And just when I was almost recovered from that Turkish bean photo. When you turn the soil over, Hementia, I'll bet you trigger seismometers in China. ;-) |
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| Charlie your list is making my head spin too. Annette appears to be speechless. - Dick |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Mon, Mar 11, 13 at 2:46
| Not only speechless, I've just now picked myself up off the floor. Annette |
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| Did I hear volunteers Trying to put in another thousand feet of poles I have about cleared out the woods of saplings and brush for poles Charlie |
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- Posted by farmergirl2009 Eastern WA zone 5 (My Page) on Sun, Apr 14, 13 at 9:25
| I have a question in that how can a person grow so many different varieties. I thought beans crossed easily. I have several I want to plant but don't want them to cross. Ellie |
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- Posted by suncitylinda 9A (My Page) on Sun, Apr 14, 13 at 16:13
| Charlie I am a bean newbie but I thought Kwintus was just the new name for Early Riser? |
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| Both are offfered by SSE members and descriptions are similar. Some sources list them as the same bean. Here in the PNW Kwintus pods get tough and fibrous at 10 inches but I have not seen anyone say that about early riser. Kwintus is a very fine late season shelly in our cool fall weather. - Dick |
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