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Low wattage grow recommendations

chhe
14 years ago

I was thinking about converting my 4'X3' closet into a grow room for growing tomatoes, eggplants, lettuce, and green beans, but I'm not knowledgeable about grow lights and was looking for recommendations. I was looking for a grow light system that would use the least amount of Watts and yet work in this 12 ft^2 space. I want to minimize the electricity costs as much as possible. Can anybody suggest particular grow lights to use that would achieve this and produce vegetables from these plants?

Comments (17)

  • urbangardenfarmer
    14 years ago

    You have two choices, 400 watt HID or 400 watt fluorescent. If I were you, I would look into a High Output fluorescent. They put off way less heat than a HID and if your growing in a closet, that's a big concern. Another good thing about the HO fluorescents is they get more lumens per watt than regular fluorescents. They will grow a plant to maturity with no problem. Just to clarify, HID or High Intensity Discharge light comes in two different spectrums. Metal Halide(blue) and High pressure sodium(red). These are great lights, but IMO, put off to much heat for a closet. Here's a link to my recommendation on the best light for your situation.I have the 12 bulb lamp with rotating blue and red lights to create a full spectrum. This light produces some of the best plants I have ever seen. No BS. Check out my website www.theurbangardenshop.com, to see for yourself. Hope this helps.

    Here is a link that might be useful: T-5 Badboy

  • californian
    14 years ago

    Be aware that if you have a lot of plants in a closed in space it will get very humid inside. I cover my seed starting setup with reflective mylar survival blankets and I find condensation on the inside surfaces. You don't want to start getting mold problems.

  • wordwiz
    14 years ago

    A 120 watt LED should do the job quite easily. A bit more expensive than the HPS or MH, less than the HO Fluro. Puts out next to no heat.

    Mike

  • taz6122
    14 years ago

    One tomato plants canopy will shade any other plant from getting the light it needs in a 4'x3' area. Where are your brains?

  • wordwiz
    14 years ago

    Huh?

    I have six plants in a 3x4 area and my 400 watt HPS is working great.

    Mike

  • taz6122
    14 years ago

    Maybe seedlings but a mature plant is totally different. What I got of the OP was growing to maturity. Maybe I misread the OP?

  • wordwiz
    14 years ago

    Taz,

    The plants are in 7-gallon containers and three of them have tomatoes growing on them!

    Mike

  • struwwelpeter
    14 years ago

    If you paint the walls, ceiling, floor, and door with a white high reflectivity paint, then you can use HID or CFL without a reflector built into the fixture. In the case of HID, the ballast should be outside the closet to minimize heat.

  • taz6122
    14 years ago

    Mike Let me know how that's working for you come May.

    The plants I grow will easily cover a 3'/4' area and get 6-8' tall. I guess they just do much better in the ground.

    chhe Painting or lining the walls with mylar will help get more light to shorter plants. Keep the tomato plant/s tied into a corner and you might get a good yield from the other plants. I really think heat is going to become a problem in that small a space. You might have to install one of those bathroom ventilation fans in the ceiling.

  • wordwiz
    14 years ago

    Taz,

    Last year, I learned about the Florida Weave method of tying plants up. Much better than staking and cages, at least IMO. In my GH, I have 18 plants in about 30 sq. ft. I may try something similar in a small section of the gar-den this summer. Two rows planted only about 15" apart.

    Mike

  • taz6122
    14 years ago

    I've been using a similar method for several years. I have a post at each end and zig-zag yarn from side to side of the plants from post to post. A piece of pvc at the top to keep posts from pulling together. Works great!

  • wordwiz
    14 years ago

    Another thing I learned, but this is from growing in the GH - once a leaf starts turning the least bit yellow - off it comes. I was wary at first; some people swear by it, others swear against it. But those leaves are not contributing to photosyntheses so they may as well add something to my compost pile!

    Mike

  • taz6122
    14 years ago

    lol That's something else I've been doing the last 3 years. Those leaves are also more susceptible to disease and pests.

  • wordwiz
    14 years ago

    Taz,

    The world is suppose to end on 12/21/12. I live in Cincinnati and we won't le-arn of it until the following summer!

    Mike

  • taz6122
    14 years ago

    Mike How many other times was that supposed to happen? I don't know if I will last that long! One day at a time. I welcome the coming of the lord! I think we've hijacked this thread.

    Sorry chhe

  • wordwiz
    14 years ago

    Taz,

    The Mayans and Nostradamus sort of list this date as the end. And then there is something that says Pope Benedict is the second to last pope.

    Just in case, I won't do my Christmas shop-ping until the 23rd!

    Mike

  • urbangardenfarmer
    14 years ago

    I think chhe is long gone, just like this thread?