Dont waste your time with LEDs they are overpriced and useless...a good 1000w kicks their asses all the way to the bank

MisterK. I disagree. I have been having lots of success with LED.

I will say that the lower wattage and lower quality LED's are overhyped. Good quality LED's are expensive, but there are a lot of advantages over HID, including dealing with excess heat and electricity consumption. They have improved drastically over the last three years. You just need to do your research. There are lots of LED grow logs out there showing that LED can do a lot more per watt then HIDs. Not as much as some scammers claim, but you can grow well with LED's, and with the electricity costs going up, and LED prices going down, ROI is getting quicker.

I don't sell them, I just use them. If you don't like them, don't use them, but unless you've tried some of the latest quality ones, don't dismiss them.

I agree with Capoman.
It's a low electricity for led.
And one function which MH or HID haven't.
Control ability.
optic the spectrum. A better penetrating power.long lifespan,etc.
The price really a little expensive.But the price have reduced year by year.