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What is the correlation b/t the K and the nanometer given?

bentley_on
19 years ago

I am soon to buy a 2x24" fluorescent fixture, probably at HD, and they sell Phillips plant & aquarium bulbs, so IÂll probably also end up with 2 24"s of those. DonÂt know if this is a T5 bulb, or whatever, another area I am completely confused in, or whether I need to consider this. I guess it is bulb dia.?

If the fixture has a reflector, great; if not, I WILL make one.

This is for getting some hot pepper seedlings from 10oz. Styrofoam coffee cups ready to harden outdoors in 5-gal pots, and also then for keeping these same plants alive in winter, or getting their pet fruit in winter ÂdonÂt know which yet. If required, any extra fixtures greater than the first one I will buy will be at a later date.

Is there difference in any bulbs for my needs; do I even need to start with Phillips plant & aquarium bulbs, or for the fixture I get (say, the cheapest one). i.e. Will any bulb name, type, size, fixture do?

Cut from shrubs_n_bulbs:

4. Plants only use red and blue light, green light is useless.

Plants use light at all wavelenghts Â.650nm Â.

5. Blue light is for growth, red light is for flowering.Â.

  1. Cool white bulbs emit blue light and warm white bulbs emit red light, so mix them if you want both red and blue.

    Warm white bulbs emit most of their light in the red part Â.4100K) bulbs emit more blue light, but still more red than blue. "Daylight" 6500K bulbs Â.

What is the correlation b/t the K and the nanometer given above? My obvious first step in clarification. K is for: kelvin, kilo...?

Then I can try to figure out if the terms "cool", "warm", "plant & aquarium", etc. I am not sure whether these terms are proprietary, or can or are used by many for technical terminology reasons.

Comments (4)

  • shrubs_n_bulbs
    19 years ago

    The correlation is between the average light wavelength (nm) and the correlated colour temperature (CCI). This is in comparison to so-called black-body radiation, which is emitted by a theoretical perfect radiator. The radiation from such a hot body is a smooth curve which peaks at a wavelength that depends on the temperature. The link shows a few curves for different temperatures. For example, the 6000K radiation curve peaks at 480nm which is in the blue-green area. 6000K black-bodt radiation still appears white (with a slight blue tinge) because it is actually a broad spread of radiation with a peak at 480nm. Notice that the 3000K curve (halogen and incandescent are 2500K-3000K) peaks in the infrared.

    OK, back to fluorescents. Most fluorescents don't emit a broad spread of radiation, but it is possible to average out the wavelengths that they do emit to get the average wavelength. The correlated colour temperature is the temperature of black body radiation which would peak at this wavelength. So if the average fluorescent wavelength is 480nm, the tube would have a CCT of 6000K.

    Note that this fluorescent tube's spectrum could have a red spike and a blue spike that average to 480nm, or it could come from a big blue-green spike right at 480nm. One tube would appear purple and one would appear blue-green. Neither would appear white. Using three phosphors is the most common modern approach to creating white-ish light. That white-ish light is actually made up of a red spike, a green spike, and a blue spike, and some stuff in between in more expensive tubes. It appears white, but it illuminates certain colours brightly and most colours very dully. It is the classic flat grey cast that comes from a cheap fluorescent. A fluorescent that emitted a broader spread of light wavelength would render more colours better. How close an artificial light is to that ideal broad spread is measured by the colour rendition index (CRI), where 100 is the best.

    What this means is that a tube with a higher temperature must emit more light somewhere at the blue end of the spectrum to have an average wavelength that is nearer to blue. Those 6500K bulbs appear white with a bluish tinge, 4100K bulbs appear as a fairly clear white, and 3000K bulbs appear distinctly orange. I knew this picture would come in handy one daya :)

    Here is a link that might be useful: Some black body radiation curves

  • bentley_on
    Original Author
    19 years ago

    Thanks,

    I've yet to read or understand all this. I guess it is like hi-fi equipment. Multiple amps driving their own frequencies result in better resolution and control over the whole spectrum.

    I know ROY G BIV.

    I have an em spectrum chart I pulled from a book called 'Living In Space'. Is there any way to post this scan in a message in this forum? I do not have a link, nor my own page. I have a scanner and photo software, though.

  • korney19
    19 years ago

    Bentley, e-mail me to get my e-mail, then e-mail it to me and I'll host it if you'd like.

    Mark

  • bentley_on
    Original Author
    19 years ago

    Unfortunately, I can't sharpen it enough, and it's got my notes all over it. It is a wavelength-frequency-photon energy chart of the entire em spectrum on one side and a stimulus-receptor-sensation for humans on the other. It has
    tv am fm, radar, molecular studies, infrared, visible( ROYGBIV), ultraviolet, atomic studies, X-Rays, radiation therapy, gamma rays, cosmic rays on one chart. From the Radiation chapter in 'Living In Space...'. I believe of all these choices, the author is George Harry Stine.

    I thought it could put things into perspective.

    After I read the 13 book Asimov series all in a row, I got into the bones, evolution, history of man, universe, space shuttle, space station, living in space thing. I believe of all, the author is George Harry Stine.

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