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| This year I got a bunch of lilies this year some asiatic, orienpets,and orientals and I researched orientals and they say that they only last for 3 to four years in the garden is this true? Also heard that they are very slow to multiply if they even do is this true? And I heard that they are very sensitive to ethenyle and if they are exposed to it that it can cause them not to bloom because i'm in town by a semi major road and I would have ruled this theory out but my new lily Black beauty never bloomed it came up about three feet but has no buds at all so it that true? All of the other lilies (all my tiger lilies, a Super nova orienpet, a Landini, my other lilies from years before bloomed, and about another 10 new lilies variying all bloomed but my one oriental lily didnt)
I've lived here for about 2 years now with all my lilies in the same spot and they always came up just fine here in Fond du lac thanks for the help Cc_coraline |
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- Posted by pitimpinai z6 Chicago (My Page) on Sun, Aug 23, 09 at 21:31
| I have not had much success with Oriental Lilies. They don't usually come back the following year. On the other hand, my Trumpet and Asiatic keep on multiplying. |
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- Posted by duluthinbloomz4 (My Page) on Sun, Aug 23, 09 at 21:44
| Some of my Orientals failed after the first season, the rest petered out over a couple or three seasons. So I don't bother with them anymore. I stick with the Asiatics - which do multiply and get better every year. |
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| Not sure where Fond du Lac is - MI/WI/MN? I live just west of Minneapolis, MN. Orientals are more picky regarding needs compared to most other hybrid lilies, but if they get what they want, they are long lived. While most hybrid lilies prefer neutral to slightly acid soils, they are somewhat tolerant of somewhat alkaline soils, which are certain death for orientals, which prefer acid soils and are usually tolerant of neutral soils. In a similar manner, orientals are not as tolerant of summer heat extremes as other hybrids are. Oriental lilies also require better soil drainage than most other hybrids. Hybrid oriental lilies are easier to grow than oriental species in general, yet I grow 3 species orientals here without problems: L. speciosum var. rubrum (6 yrs), L. speciosum var. album (4 yrs), L. auratum (3 yrs). Black Beauty is a hybrid of oriental lily and asiatic lily (L. speciosum var. rubrum x L. henryi) and is much easier to grow, and hardier. Mine has been thriving and multiplying for 10 years. |
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- Posted by cc_coraline zone 4/5 in between (My Page) on Mon, Aug 24, 09 at 12:26
| I'm in WI SO if I'm understanding this hybrid oriental lilies are hardier than orientals in general or are they more or less the same? What about Turks caps are they hardy like asiatic and trumpets or more like orientals? Are trumpets as hardy and reproductive as asiatics? And how slow reproductive and how hardy are orienpets? Thanks for the help Cc_coraline |
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- Posted by cc_coraline zone 4/5 in between (My Page) on Mon, Aug 24, 09 at 14:02
| Oh and how hardy are tiger lilies Thanks for the help Cc_coraline |
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- Posted by pitimpinai z6 Chicago (My Page) on Mon, Aug 24, 09 at 20:14
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- Posted by cc_coraline zone 4/5 in between (My Page) on Mon, Aug 24, 09 at 20:37
| Wow pitimpinai those are beautiful lilies did your orienpets bloom the first year? Thanks for the help Cc_coraline |
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- Posted by pitimpinai z6 Chicago (My Page) on Tue, Aug 25, 09 at 9:08
| Thanks, CC_Coraline & flora. As Flora said, whether lilies depending on the size of the bulbs. If they are small or Martagon or species, they'll take time to establish before they bloom. If the bulbs are large, they usually bloom the first year, if you plant in early spring, the following spring-summer if you plant them in fall. Tiger lily from tiny bulbils will take a few years to bloom. Yes, My 'Silk Road' bloomed the first year. I bought the bulbs from The Lily Garden. It is the most expensive lily I have ever purchased other than Martagon, but the bulbs were huge - as big as my fist. Silk Road is about 6 ft. tall. :-D |
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| I pulled this thread up since now, most of my oriental lilies are over four years old and the oldest have kind of petered out. Last year, (even with the late frost) they were more floriferous. I did move a few of the largest, but I just keep buying more and more and tuck them into the garden. I kind of remember hearing something about they start growing too deep - has anyone tried to dig them up and replant them a bit shallower? Just an idea. |
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