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japanese toad lily help

Posted by gaoyuqing 5b (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 16, 09 at 21:51

got some today (since last ones compy sent failed to do anything) and as i've planted these before in numerous locations with no success, I'd like some advice. how deep do you plants the roots for starters. I've planted them in shade, semi shade, loamy soil,dryer soil, under a pine tree so a bit more acidic soil, and so on. any help would be appreciated before i put these into the ground for the winter.


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RE: japanese toad lily help

If you are referring to tricyrtis ( toad lily to me) it is not a true lily and should be on a different forum.
Anyway, to answer your question. I have had 3 from trade/sale and only 1 survived. The survivor has been successful in my zone 5 garden about 2 ft from the N side of my house ( shade) in loamy moist soil.

I have also had it survive the summer transplanted to a hill facing east with semi-shade and rich, manure-laced soil.

I can't seem to cure the brown spots on the leaves that make it unattractive at bloom time. It is NOT my favorite plaNT. If it wanted to die off like yours I would let it.

A pic of this one in my garden is in my photobucket album for OCT, look up member cheerpeople. I am not certain of the cultivar name.


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RE: japanese toad lily help

  • Posted by morz8 Z8 Wa coast (My Page) on
    Mon, Oct 19, 09 at 12:06

You have bareroot plants? They are in full bloom here right now.

"Toad lilies grow from new growth points that develop along the roots and will spread underground to form a colony with each new growth point forming a stem. These growth tips should be planted about 2 to 3" below the soil and then should be mulched 1 to 2" after planting."

They require a moist soil that drains well (that means a lot of organic content/compost). This is a cool summer area - if allowed to dry out or planted where exposed to wind, even here the foliage will look bad enough by bloom time the effect of the flowers is completely lost. I hand water mine a few times during summer in addition to the regular drip irrigation they get along with the rest of that bed.


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I am growing trycytis hirta Empress for the first time this year with great luck. Roots I purchased online did not grow, but I found a $2.98 live plant, which is blooming madly. I planted it in a large pot using purchased potting soil, keep it on the deck in shade, on a shelf where the flowers are visible for admiration. If/when it forms a colony I will plant it in the ground.

I can't wait to purchase other trycyrtis; I found a website with tons of plants up to $100's of dollars in price.

Has anyone tried raising them from seed? J. H. Hudson, Seedsman had them in his catalog in 2008, but they sold out quickly. AND we know these are not lilies, they grow from rhizomes, so which forum should this plant be in?


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RE: japanese toad lily help

  • Posted by morz8 Z8 Wa coast (My Page) on
    Tue, Oct 20, 09 at 0:22

They are herbaceous perennials, so Perennials forum is where they really should be.

My own will be nipped back by frost each year before seed can ripen and I've only taken divisions. Of the seed, Druse (Making More Plants) says fresh seed, barely cover, 65F for germination in 30-90 days. The Clothiers database (more often for dried purchased seed) says Tricyrtis hirta, latifolia, and maculata, Sow at 18-22ºC (64-71ºF) for 2-4 wks, move to -4 to +4ºC (24-39ºF) for 4-6 wks, move to 5-12ºC (41-53ºF) for germination. Tricyrtis macropoda , Sow at Max. 5ºC (41ºF), germination irregular, often several months.

chilternseeds.com usually has at least t. hirta, I place a seed order with them every year....great germination from all I've purchased.


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