I think the red one is a Bloodgood, but wanted a second opinion. Here is another picture of it.

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There are hundreds of named forms of Japanese maples, some closely similar to one another. If yours are vegetatively propagated named forms then you may have to show multiple leaves and even fruits (when these start to appear) to make identification possible. If these are instead seedlings - you say you found the one as though it is a spontaneous seedling - then they have no specific names as they are unnamed seedlings rather than clonal cultivars.

And FWIW, 'Bloodgood' is not a dissectum, but has what is considered a rather large leaf for a J. maple.

Garden, I thought so too, but I'm looking at a page of where they list the names, and in the upright maples they show a Bloodgood that looks exactly like mine, but earlier this week when I googled Bloodgood I saw something entirely different, like you described and it didn't even look like what I am looking at now, but I do see the difference in my Crimson Queen vs the seedling I found in the above picture.

bboy,

Then the maple seedlings I found around the neighbors own maple tree would be a different variety then theirs? In order for it to be the same it would have to be a graft taken from said tree? These are all Bonsai in training, so when listing them I would only list them as Japanese Maples, variety unknown?

Here is a link that might be useful: Worldplants

Yes, they are not entitled to cultivar names as they are not the same clones. Variable seedlings of 'Bloodgood' have been sold in its place many times but these are not correctly called by that name. You will probably see some photos showing one or more of these seedlings instead of the true item.