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Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

Posted by sam268 Ontario (My Page) on
Wed, Oct 21, 09 at 18:01

Was originally looking to get a Autumn Blaze but read so much negative things about it. I really like the color of the Autumn Blaze and also the upright branchings.

Looks like a good alternative would be this Redpointe but I can only find limited pictures and info on the web

www.redpointemaple.com

please share your experience with this tree.
I plant to get one this Spring as all nursery near where I live is sold out.


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

I'm curious as to what negative remarks you have read about 'Autumn Blaze'. Most horticulturists and arborists familiar with maples consider this hybrid maple a superior selection to any of the cultivars of rubrum, Norway, silver or sugar maples. It was selected as the Urban Tree of the Year for 2003. I would not hesitate to plant it anywhere a fast growing, large, dependable shade tree with outstanding fall color was desired.

Note that 'Autumn Blaze' is not a red maple but Acer x freemanii, a hybrid between red and silver maple and generally considered to combine the best traits of both species.

Here is a link that might be useful: 'Autumn Blaze' maple


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

I have a small (I bought it as a 2"x2" pot) several years ago -- 'Embers'/'Glowing Embers' now about 2.5 feet tall. There are so many good ones. This tree appealed to me for it's fall color. Just a shade different ya know. Mine I bought from Sooner Plant Farm which has quite a lot of these to choose from, or at least they did.

Dax


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 16:49

New red and Freeman maples continue to come out. Sometimes Freeman maple selections are offered as red maples. If a particular one is newer there won't be widespread, long-term experience to draw from. Rather than trying to shave the cheese too fine maybe go see what looks good at local outlets, if possible and try one of those. Here (western USDA 8) many maples are still in autumn dress.


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

We have both a Autumn Blaze and a Autumn Fantasy maple. Both are great trees. They aren't large yet, but getting there fast. The Autumn Fantasy is not nearly as common as Autumn Blaze, has a darker ruby red color, and a more open canopy than AB. According to the patent it is resistant to winter storm damage as well. If you would like something bit less common, and a bit different, then look into AF.

As for AB, there is a large one in front of my office with a trunk around 15-18' diameter, and 40+feet that experienced the worst ice storm on record for mu location this past winter. It lost two branches about 2' in diameter. NO other damage. I have seen many claims about AB that have not been at all true in my location, and there are ALLOT of them about.

However if you do want a true red maple, how about one of the less common one like Brandywine, Burgundy Belle, Polara etc.

Here is a link that might be useful: Red Maples at Sooner Plant Farm


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

Autumn blaze was my original choice until I read about they are prone to have cracks on the trunks and I went out to see between 20-30 autumn in my area. almost 1/3 of them has this problem. Which is why I decided to go with the redpointe which is advertised to be less prone to disease and pest out of all other red leaf maples.


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Thu, Oct 29, 09 at 15:02

Redpointe is a registered trademark used to sell the 'Frank Jr.' cultivar. Photos and descriptions on the J. Frank Schmidt website make me think it is a Freeman maple. According to the patent description it originated as an open pollinated seedling in a collection.

Here is a link that might be useful: Red Maple tree named `Frank Jr.`


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

I can't help you concerning Redpointe, but I can elude to trunk crack issues with Autumn Blaze. The link below shows some images of an AB I planted probably 10 years ago as a small B&B tree. Had grown very well, withstood dry conditions with no foliage droop, great fall color, and withstood the 75mph winds of the remains of Hurricane Ike a year ago with only some leaves being blown off. The tree had vertical seams in the bark when purchased and I didn't think much about them until this spring when most of the seams opened up into extensive vertical cracks all around the circumference of the trunk - not just of the south side as seen with frost cracks. The tree produced a huge amount of seed this spring, and the foliage started turning red in early July. A couple reputable arborist took looks at the tree and considered the tree doomed - as did I. So I cut it down instead of prolonging the agony. The trunk was about 12-14 inches in diameter and all that remained of the cambium layer was a couple 3 inch vertical strips almost 180� opposite. So I checked other plantings of AB that I was familiar with and all showed the same vertical seams with some cracks starting to appear. I contacted the nursery from which my tree originated and was told they had to destroy a large portion of their field stock because of the same issue. I have observed and the nursery said as much that if there are no visible seams in the trunk as a young tree - 2-3 inch caliper - then the seams and cracks probably won't occur. So it seems to be something the tree experiences in it's youth that causes the cracks. There are some articles claiming that Roundup could be the cause being absorbed into the tender green bark at a young age during field spraying. But I think that has yet to be proved. Otherwise AB can be a great tree and I was sad to loss it.

Marshall

Here is a link that might be useful: Autumn Blaze trunk cracks


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

Interesting comments, mrgpag. (By the way, want to buy some more vowels??)

In the many years that i have been working with the red maples and hybrids, it seems to me, in my area of the country - midwest - any young maple can be prone to trunk cracking. There have been literally thousands planted (particularly Red Sunset) in all sorts of sites. Stressed sites - strip malls, highway easements - seem to provoke the worst effects. I suppose that only makes a kind of sense - more reflected light and heat from a parking lot, for example, than from a homeowner's turf.

The notion that field production weed control may also contribute is very interesting - but who knows for sure?

Anyway, considering that there may be many, many factors involved suggests to me that there is no more concern with Autumn Blaze maples than with any other cultivar.

Now, as to the OP's question on Redpointe. As has been mentioned, this is yet another new red maple selection, not too many of them in the ground yet, certainly no long term evaluation is possible now. Frankly, I don't see all that much difference from other cultivars in the young nursery trees I get - and that is not unusual when dealing with young, juvenile trees.

The major thing I see with Redpointe - if you get one that Schmidt nursery grew, it is indeed extremely uniform and full. I mean, it's a real nice looking young tree. Is that its genetic growth characteristic, or the result of very good growing technique, or some of both? Beats me...

My advice? See what your local nursery has available next spring, see what looks good to you, see what seems to be growing well in your area.

brian


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Fri, Nov 6, 09 at 22:54

"Frankly"? How appropriate, considering the subject.


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

I have not pull the trigget yet but do need something abit nore narrow with good red color.
Please kindly share who wide your repointe is with age.


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 29, 10 at 12:43

>Please kindly share who wide your repointe is with age<

Appears to be too new on the market for that.


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RE: Acer Rubrum Redpointe - Pictures Anyone???

Acer rubrum Red Rocket is a Maple I purchased a few years ago from Sooner Plant Farm. Check it out... there's a link above to their nursery. I see you're in Canada, Sam. Anyways, maybe they ship up to Canada or you may find it elsewhere for sale.

Dax


 
 

 

 


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