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chrisbmo
14 years ago

Id like to get into some vegetable gardening. I have some experience growing vegetables but nothing really on a grand scale.

Ive got a couple different things going for me. One is I have some bottom ground that is currently in pasture. The plan is to plow it up and bed it. The only problem is it is more apt to freeze, but I can work with that. I know it should be plowed in the fall, cover cropped, and bedded in the spring, but it didnt work out that way. Whats the likelihood of plowing it in may/june, hitting it a couple times with the disc, and then bedding and planting pumpkins in July?

Also, I have a small field that has been terraced. What is the best way to go about planting tomatoes on the terrace tops? I would like to use plastic mulch, as I do work fulltime.

I am trying to plan ahead for the future. I would like to make raised beds and plastic mulch. How important is it to have these perfect, square beds? Might one get by using a lister/hiller in a pass and mulch that? Perhaps wait for it to dry out some and roll it and mulch?

I really need to talk with someone experienced in my area, but not many people grow vegetables around here. Maybe for good reason.

Thoughts?

Comments (10)

  • myfamilysfarm
    14 years ago

    I don't make beds. I make plots that are 50' wide. Then I plant across the 50' side.

    As far as your bottom ground, I have a cattle farmers that would plant her pumpkins in the washed out areas, to help keep the ground from washing more.

    Just check out where you would sell your produce BEFORE you plant. Nothing worse than to have alot of something that you can't get rid of.

    I didn't check, what part of the country are you from?

  • chrisbmo
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Im in Central MO.

  • randy41_1
    14 years ago

    Plowing and planting in the spring will work as long as you don't get too much rain. You can't plow mud. And your pumpkin planting needs to take place in June to be ready by October.
    plastic mulch works well with tomato growing.
    I agree about knowing your market ahead of time.

  • myfamilysfarm
    14 years ago

    Around here we try to have pumpkins and winter squash by the 1st of October at the latest. That gives you enough time to sell them all. I start bringing in the winter squash and decorative pumpkins after Labor Day.

    You might check if there are local farmers market or produce auctions in your areas.

  • prmsdlndfrm
    14 years ago

    I have an uncle in Northwest MO, just south of Iowa, east of Kansas, he grows vegetables, and takes em to Kansas City, they have a Mosterous farmers market.

    Now first thing you need to do if you want to stand a chance to stay ahead of the weeds, (been there done that) with a spring plowing is to wait till green up, then spray glyphosphate at the highest rate you can afford, be sure to mix with ammonium sulphate for the best results, wait about a week to plow, youll be fine, the weeds will be knocked back sufficently so as you can stay ahead with cultivating, but beings that you work off farm Id wait after plowing for the newly exposed weed seeds to sprout then spray again, wait three days then disc. Then youll be as good as if you fall plowed, albeit a little behind, and youll stay behind all season.
    josh

  • eric_wa
    14 years ago

    Josh,

    Did you mean Monstrous? Giganic

    I have to use spell check all the time.

    Eric

  • prmsdlndfrm
    14 years ago

    I can type pretty fast, but with lousy spelling, if I was a secretary theyd fire me :0) Yeah I mean huge, big, block party
    josh

  • sunnfarm3
    14 years ago

    Whatever you do, try to get pumpkins seeded as early as possible. Once you get into late June and especially July its not so much a maturity problem most varieties will mature even seeded early July but a virus problem from aphids. The later you seed the worse virus will be. Also keep a close eye out for downy mildew...Bob.

  • chrisbmo
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Ok. I read an article put out by the University of Missouri and they said the 4th of July was optimal for pumpkins. I did some this year about the beginning of June and it seemed like they ran out of steam. I had some major bug issues and that was more of an issue than planting date, I imagine.

  • myfamilysfarm
    14 years ago

    July 4th is ideal IF you want to have pumpkins ONLY for 10/31. Most people will buy their pumpkins LONG before that. I start selling some as early as Labor Day, of course, those people are not worrying about them getting cut and keeping til Halloween. I STRONGLY recommend that any pumpkin that will be cut for decoration, that the people wait til about 7-10 days before Halloween to cut them.

    As far as them running out of steam, if your area had a year like I had, I'm not surprised. And the bugs probably had more to do with the 'lack of steam' that you might be aware of.

    Most of the varieties that I know have 100+ days maturity, and if you back=date from Halloween, you will be mid-late July. Old-timers have said plant by 7/4 for Halloween. I try to have all of my planting done by then because I'll be picking tomatoes and everything else and don't have time to plant and pick.

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