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Purple Pepper

12g87
11 years ago

Hello I'm new to market gardening and this forum. This will be my fifth year with a garden and my first year at market.

My garden is coming along very good with the weather we are having and I have some little bell peppers starting.

I have grown peppers before, but this is my first year growing the purple ones. My purples are the lilac variety. I have always thought that bell peppers started out green and then turned color as they ripened. However my purple bell peppers seem to have started out purple.

Is this normal? And how do they do at market? Thanks Nate

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Comments (25)

  • jrslick (North Central Kansas, Zone 5B)
    11 years ago

    Hello Nate,

    Peppers are looking nice, the purple peppers sell great down here in K-State country! I have probably over 100 purple bell pepper plants planted.

    Your peppers are perfectly normal. They start off purple and then eventually turn red, but it takes a long time. SO, if they don't sell well, wait and the they will turn red. They have some marketing options!

    Here are some of mine from several years ago. The variety is Tequilla.

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  • boulderbelt
    11 years ago

    Yes, they start purple and ripen to red. You pick in the immature purple (green) stage. These will taste like green peppers and not be sweet like the ripe peppers.

    I have grown them for year but they have never been great sellers for me so this year I dropped them from the pepper rotation.

  • myfamilysfarm
    11 years ago

    There are certain varieties that start off the color of their name, purple, yellow that I know of personally.

    I agree, the different color peppers didn't sell well. Good one green turning red, were the best selling peppers.

  • 2ajsmama
    11 years ago

    I'm trying Burpee's Carnival mix along with King of the North (green to red) this year, just to test the market. Though last year no one wanted the Chablis (yellow) peppers - in fact no one wanted the green peppers b/c "they're too small" - they want huge ones they can stuff a cup of rice/meat into.

  • myfamilysfarm
    11 years ago

    By holding off and not picking until the peppers get larger, your sales will be much better, plus you can charge more for the larger peppers. Personally, I won't sell the little ones anymore. Also, I prefer to grow the blocky peppers instead of the longer pointy ones. I found they sell better.

    I asked my customers whether they are 'chopping them' or stuffing them. The stuffing people, I would make sure that the peppers could stand, while the chopping people didn't care. I explained why I did this, and my customers were understanding.

  • 2ajsmama
    11 years ago

    Well, when it's the last month of market, I pick. I certainly thought the peppers were big enough to stuff (though perhaps I'd consider 2 to be a serving instead of 1). Since DH and I are the only ones who eat salad in our house, I like to pick the green ones small enough that I don't have half or 3/4 of a pepper left over after making a salad.

    Late start this year - problems with aphids on my peppers (bought some Cubanelle, may buy some bells too since the 24 I started are wimpy) and now cold weather, so we'll see if/when I get any decent-sized bell peppers this year. I may just give up on bells entirely, the problem is convincing people that anything pointed is really a sweet pepper and not a hot one.

    I do agree with you on making sure the stuffing peppers can stand up in the pan - I look for that myself.

  • jrslick (North Central Kansas, Zone 5B)
    11 years ago

    Good idea Marla, I wouldn't have considered asking a question like that.

    The size is why I grow so many bell peppers. I can't complete with the volume, so I grow Jumbo Bell peppers. My bells are always some of the largest ones at market. I charge $1 each.

    Here are the outside peppers, I just got them in on Sunday (a few weeks late) There are 450 peppers outside (not all bells, only about 150 are bells)

    Here are the inside peppers. There are 320 in here, with 240 of them are bell peppers in multiple colors.

    Jay

  • 2ajsmama
    11 years ago

    To sort of get back on topic - do you find that colored peppers peppers (non-green) sell at all? Marla said green turning red sell for her. I never got a chance to sell any turning red (mine ripened too late for Sept market, probably will this year too though I started them 2 weeks earlier, I'm not planting out any earlier than last year). But I wonder if a lot of folks are like my dad - who has been farming all his life and never realized that green peppers aren't ripe, they *do* turn a different color when ripe. Though strangely, he doesn't *like* green peppers. I gave him 2 King of the Norths and a Cubanelle to try this year.

    Also, has anyone found like I did that people think anything pointy (even if not particularly small or skinny) is a hot chile pepper? You'd think with all the marketing now of the "Ancient Sweets" and such, they'd be willing to trust us when we say they're not...

    I'll have to look for the Jumbos - what's the DTM? Or at least days to marketable size when green?

  • jrslick (North Central Kansas, Zone 5B)
    11 years ago

    I used the word Jumbos, to describe a really big bell pepper. There isn't a variety with that name. Colored bell peppers sell really well too. That is why I grow the purple and white peppers because I can offer a color beside green early in the season.

    Here is a picture from several years ago, This was from a market in October.
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    I will usually sell this many or more at every market.

    Jay

  • 2ajsmama
    11 years ago

    So what variety(ies) do you grow for the big peppers? Of course, you have the tunnel so you get an early start, but I'm looking for the shortest season I can. King of the North is supposed to be cold-hardy, but I still haven't managed to get it out before June so I can't tell.

  • henhousefarms
    11 years ago

    KOTN, Golliath, Big Bertha and California Wonder are a couple of the peppers we grow - they get nice and big but you have to be patient and allow them to get that way. We plant a lot of pepper plants to make up for letting the fruit get bigger. At the end of the year we have a big pepper sale with the smaller fruit that will not mature before frost for people that want to freeze them (they work well for fajitas).

    We move a lot of red and yellow peppers (and sell them at a premium) but have not had as much luck with the other colors. We also started growing Marconi peppers a couple of years ago and really like them. They are sweeter than bells but took a couple of years to get people turned on to them. They are a little smaller than a bell and shaped somewhat like a Hungarian but larger and wider. They come in several colors but again yellow and red are the best sellers.

    Tom

  • myfamilysfarm
    11 years ago

    AJsmama, in your short season, you would need to get your plants much larger than Jay does. You would probably need to plant gallon pots into your garden, and then be patient. I know it's hard.

    I have a hard time selling the yellows and any other color.

    I use California Wonder and start them earlier (usually in Jan/Feb). They are open pollinated and the seeds are cheap, I usually buy 1/2-1 oz at a time, then plant them for about 4 years. Much cheaper that way.

  • jrslick (North Central Kansas, Zone 5B)
    11 years ago

    A variety that works great for early and short seasons is Ace. It is a green to red pepper. Almost all mine have 2 or 3 peppers on them already, most decent size.

    Here are the varieties that I have had success with.

    Green to red
    Ace
    Red knight
    Aristotle
    Revolution

    Green to yellow
    Lafayette very sweet even as a green pepper
    Flavor burst it is a light green to yellow

    Green to orange
    Gourmet - orange is a hard color to grow

    Chocolate, white, and purple

    Chocolate beauty
    Purple beauty
    Purple belle
    Bianca
    Tequila
    I have never been happy with California wonder. It never produces very well for me.

  • myfamilysfarm
    11 years ago

    Sorry Jay that it hasn't done well for you, maybe it just does better here.

  • 2ajsmama
    11 years ago

    Hmm, I was at grocery store today and saw Red Knight,3 plants in an 8" pots, pretty good-sized, I think there was a Big Boy (?) and I forget what else - nothing from Jay's list that I recall.

    I have the KOTN, and CA wonder is in the Carnival mix (I can also pick some up at greenhouse tomorrow if they have any left - they did last week when I bought the Cubanelles). Next year I will start *all* my peppers,bells and exotics, right after New Year's. The problem is where to put them in March when I need to start the tomatoes. I guess I need a tunnel. Maybe next March will be warm like this year (1 week of 70-80), but then we did have 3 freezes the last week of April. Unusual weather now for June - lows about 48.

    Produce stocker says they sell a lot of the "mini-sweets" bagged 2lbs of orange and yellow. Don't know why the colors didn't sell well at market last year (and another farmer told me he found it hard to sell peppers unless they were really big so it wasn't just me).

  • brookw_gw
    11 years ago

    Big Bertha always does well for me as a large pepper. Several growers around here have given up on Cal Wonder. It used to be our main pepper, but it just stopped producing fruit. Nice, big healthy plants w/no peppers. Better Belle has been my go-to pepper since. I also plant Keystone, and Giant Marconi is good as well. In the last 3 years or so, I've also come to appreciate Gypsy. I also really like the snack peppers like Yum Yum, but their survival rate has not been too impressive. I always plant an assortment of colored peppers as well, but they don't sell as well. Reds are the exception.

    On another note, the Japanese beetles are already emerging. I've been killing them all week. It seems that even they are a month early. We are also having one of the worst years for ticks, and a friend is plagued w/chiggers. One scourge I haven't seen much of yet is stinkbugs, but I'm sure they're just hiding in wait for my squashes to size up.

  • little_minnie
    11 years ago

    I have enjoyed Tequila hybrid. It puts out the first peppers period and they are teeny and cute- purple and yellow. It appeals to both green and ripe pepper buyers. That is I can talk either into them. I don't find peppers sell that well for me. I sell mine for $3 a big quart and my heirloom tomatoes for $2.50 a quart whereas the guy next to me sells peppers for $2.50 and tomatoes for $3. I just think that is funny. But he has a high tunnel from the grant for his peppers and mine are a much slower producer so I think they are worth more. Plus no chemicals.

  • boulderbelt
    11 years ago

    I grow revolution as my green to red pepper and flavorburst as my yellow pepper. I also grow heirlooms like paprikas (very sweet), Italian long types and some hots (jalapeno and cayenne)

  • 2ajsmama
    11 years ago

    I've got some Alma paprikas that look nice, also the Cubanelles plus the hots (jal, serrano and aji limon, don't think I'm going to get any bih jolokia, 7-pots, or paper lanterns in time for market). Gotta see about picking up some Red Knight next time I'm in town.

  • little_minnie
    11 years ago

    Yes and Lucy is quoted in the Fedco catalog with a testimonial about those Revolution peppers LOL!

    I think the mini mixed color peppers are ready to go crazy popular since they sell really well at supermarkets. I don't think I sold any plants of them at market but really think I will sell the fruits if they are nice and bright fully changed colors. I tend to sell peppers 75% changed and people get fussy about that, but at 100% changed they get wrinkly very quickly.

    I have several varieties I am trialling this year and hope to keep them straight. Odessa market is one because Sandhill was out of Frank's. Cal Wonder has been better for me than King. I hate Gourmet after one season with huge plants and nary a fruit by fall! Sweet Bananas are a really hard sell once anything else is ready. And hot peppers for me are worse than anything to sell.

  • cynthia halford
    6 years ago

    OK, I am totally new to growing peppers and bought some just to give it a try. My first mistake was planting all 4 in the same pot!!! Yes, I'm a pot grower, for now lol. I am having trouble trying to figure out what does what! I bought Island peppers (purple) which are now turning a white'ish color and was dark purple when they started. I have Green peppers that are now turning red but started out green. I have red peppers that are turning red but started green. And yellow peppers that started out green but looks like they are just about to start changing to yellow?!?!? It has been the smallest pepper plant of all.


    So I am at a loss as to when what pepper is ready to harvest?!?!? Can anyone help??

  • Barrie, (Central PA, zone 6a)
    6 years ago

    Since a few people mentioned Flavorburst I will mention that people in markets I attend do not like the unripe color. I've been selling loads of green bells at a good price but green peppers need to be dark green, not lime green.

    For the smaller lunchbox and mid size bells they sell much better for me when ripe.

    But not all peppers are meant to ripen. Jalopeno peppers most often are sold green and I've been selling lots of shishito and pardon peppers and they need to be green and not fully developed.

    There are a few larger bells that ripen in the 60 day range. Sprinter, Catriona and Orange Blaze have ripened in my high tunnel.

  • cynthia halford
    6 years ago

    I NEED HELP ON GROWING MY BELL PEPPERS AND ANYONE HELP ME?? IF SO PLEASE EMAIL ME AT SINLOU0911@YAHOO.COM AND PUT IN SUBJECT: BELL PEPPER HELP!!!

  • tarolli2011
    5 years ago

    I did a pretty thorough search of the best pepper cultivars on gardenweb a few years ago. Came to the conclusion that more people prefer California Wonder than any other in gardenweb posts. Or at least as many like it, so my bells are mostly California Wonder. In this thread, someone said that it used to produce well, but it no longer produces well for them. That means genetic drift or bad seed saving. New seed from a reliable source would correct that.

    I logged on to comment on Yum Yum. Like Cal. Wonder, I will never garden without it. It is the 2-3 inch snacking pepper in red, yellow, or orange. Really pretty, blemish-free, very few seeds. Early and productive. And the taste!!!! Wow!!!! It is so sweet. People tell me that the bags of pretty snacking peppers from the store do not taste as good. Try at least one plant, and the next year, you'll plant many. It is the "Sun Gold" (tomato) of peppers.

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