Return to the Mid-Atlantic Gardening Forum | Post a Follow-Up

 o
Help me with a plan for this bed, please

Posted by randita (My Page) on
Tue, Apr 16, 13 at 12:19

I just moved to a rural area near Roanoke, VA (Zone 7B). The house has plenty of beds with large shade trees, but nothing much in the way of plantings, so I'm starting from scratch which is overwhelming but fun.

I'm look for ideas for a bed (photos below) that has several large shade trees in it, one Japanese maple, and a very large boulder in the middle. I think this bed has a LOT of potential to be interesting, so I want to get it right.

What I plant has to be deer resistant.

For starters, I like Mountain Laurel, Loropepulum, Aucuba, Pieris Japonica, Coral Bells, Solomon's Seal, Pachysandra, ferns, and grasses that tolerate shade. I also like mid and low lying ground covers that offer either flowers in the summer or stay colorful in the winter.

My goal is to have plantings that lend a variety of shades year round and ones that offer something during the winter months.

I'd like something low lying and colorful around the edges of the bed, but can't decide what. The edges receive dappled sun.

I'm waiting for the frost danger to pass, then I'm going out to start looking.

I have a LOT of planning and planting to do to whip this yard into shape. One step at a time and the first step is this large bed.

Thanks so much for your ideas. I know what I like, but I can't always visualize how many and where to plant for maximum benefit.

 photo IMG_1903_zpsaf5bb95e.jpg

 photo IMG_1902_zps3fd09a8e.jpg


Follow-Up Postings:

 o
RE: Help me with a plan for this bed, please

That site does look like it has a lot of potential. Love the boulder! However, I'm afraid many of the plants you listed are not particularly deer-resistant. Start with a list like the one linked below from Rutgers Cooperative Extension (the download is free to view of print). I checked your Virginia C.E. and the Rutgers link was at the top of the list they provided!

Anyway, then check out which of those plants that will thrive in the dappled shade of the trees, as well as the root competition - those trees will be seeking moisture and nutrients, too. There are loads that should suit your needs. Finally, I would suggest you try to include as many plants that are native to your region as you can. These will be well-suited to your environmental conditions, hence will require less maintenance, and will provide habitat for native wildlife like birds, butterflies and beneficial insects.

Deer are funny creatures and different herds seem to have differing preferences and aversions. What works in one neighborhood may not work in another. When deer are hungry, all bets are off ... it seems they'll eat just about anything. They are also creatures of habit, so the longer they have been snacking at your buffet, the more difficult it will be to discourage them. The flip side of that is that if they're relatively new visitors, it's best to nip that in the bud ... before they do (pun intended).

I would also try to keep the "deer candy" out of my garden - things like hosta, daylilies, azaleas & rhodies, yews...

Have fun planning and planting your garden bed then watching it mature!

Here is a link that might be useful: Plants Rated by Deer Resistance


 o
RE: Help me with a plan for this bed, please

Thanks so much for your response and for the website link.

I hear conflicting reports around here about what deer will and will not eat. It varies yard to yard, I guess. Any kind of a vegetable garden is out of the question, I'm told, unless you have an 8 feet fence around it - no thanks. I got some large planters and will grow tomatoes up on the deck.

So far, they have totally nipped off the hostas that were starting to appear and have even eaten the new growth off the knockout roses. I planted a lot of marigolds around the roses, so hopefully that will deter them.

My neighbor who has mostly sunny out in the open beds doesn't have trouble with deer, but they like my yard a lot.

As you suggested, I am tending toward a natural woodland garden with specimens of what you would find growing wild in the woods around here. That will have the greatest potential for success and require the least amount of care.


 o
RE: Help me with a plan for this bed, please

The boulder looks like an iguana in the first photo!


 o
RE: Help me with a plan for this bed, please

Yes, it does! My grandson will think that's hilarious.


 o
RE: Help me with a plan for this bed, please

Hmm... I was thinking about Sweet Woodruff for the dappled shade you've got under those trees, since it's a natural under-story grower with lovely little sweet-smelling flowers. With the deer invasion you describe, though, the vanilla/fresh-hay scent might draw even more nibblers. I'll do some poking around online & see what turns up.

I love your mossy boulder, by the way!


 o
RE: Help me with a plan for this bed, please

Sweet woodruff would be nice there, and, according to the Rutgers list, is rarely damaged by deer.

A plant I've been wanting to add to my shady garden is the woodland peony. Single white or pink blooms in spring, leafy groundcover through the season, beautiful seed pods in fall. And it's deer resistant.

Playing up the "iguana" ... thinking of its similarity to dinosaurs ... ferns would be appropriate for a sort of prehistoric feel, maybe some jack-in-the-pulpit to add to the quirkiness. Wild ginger is another plant that makes a lovely groundcover on the forest floor and has the oddest little flowers (mine are just blooming now). Don't know how deer react to it, though, and it may be hard to find (mine were rescued from a farm/woodland that was about to be subdivided and developed and have taken about 3 years to settle in and bloom).


 o Post a Follow-Up

Please Note: Only registered members are able to post messages to this forum.

    If you are a member, please log in.

    If you aren't yet a member, join now!


Return to the Mid-Atlantic Gardening Forum

Information about Posting

  • You must be logged in to post a message. Once you are logged in, a posting window will appear at the bottom of the messages. If you are not a member, please register for an account.
  • Posting is a two-step process. Once you have composed your message, you will be taken to the preview page. You will then have a chance to review your post, make changes and upload photos.
  • After posting your message, you may need to refresh the forum page in order to see it.
  • Before posting copyrighted material, please read about Copyright and Fair Use.
  • We have a strict no-advertising policy!
  • If you would like to practice posting or uploading photos, please visit our Test forum.
  • If you need assistance, please Contact Us and we will be happy to help.


Learn more about in-text links on this page here