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Planting arborvitae and lilacs together

jazzygardener
16 years ago

Has anyone tried alternating lilacs with arborvitae? I have a 30 foot row of arborvitae (only 2 yrs old) that are about 3 foot high. I want to screen out the neighbors boat/trailer that sits on on a raised driveway that's about 3 feet higher than my property. The arborvitae would have to grown another 5 -6 feet to give me the privacy that I want and I don't think I have the patience to wait that long. So I'm thinking of either planting a row ol lilacs in front of them, but that might block their sun. I've also thought of moving the arborvitae and replacing them with lilac, then planting the arborvitae in front.Or just removing every other arborvitae and planing a lilac. Does anyone have any ideas? I've also thought of alternating in some small trees. No the neighbor will not put up a fence.

Comments (6)

  • leftwood
    16 years ago

    You are right that lilac will grow faster than arborvitae. But they don't have the masking effect in the winter either, which, I would assume, will be the boat's primary storage time for the year.

    All options are plausible. But as with any combination of deciduous and evergreen plant materials, you must remember the inevitable as they begin to grow together: the "bare spots" of the evergreens that are covered by deciduous materials in the summer, are suddenly exposed when leaves drop in the fall. Holes, or empty sides of your evergeens might not look too inviting, even though it is a healthy, natural and normal consequence.

  • jazzygardener
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Unfortunately the boat/trailer is there year round. So I'm looking for something that will grown fast and block it out.
    I've put a lot of work into my garden so having an eye sore parked behind it certainly isn't appealing. Plus that's one of the first things we see as we walk out our front door. There were large shrubs in this area when I put my garden in years ago. I guess I'll have to see if someone else has an idea.

  • duluthinbloomz4
    16 years ago

    This evergreen list is from the U of MN Extension Service - might be something here worth looking into for your screening requirements:

    Trade Name of Evergreen/ Hardiness Zone/ Growth Rate/ Maximum Size (feet)/ Shape/ Light Requirements
    Arborvitae
    Emerald 3 Med 15 Cone Full Sun - Full Shade
    Globe 3 Slow - Med 5 Globe Full Sun - Full Shade
    Techny 3 Slow - Med 15 Pyramid Full Sun - Full Shade
    Firs
    Douglas fir (not a true fir) 4 Med 60 Pyramid Full Sun
    Balsam 3 Slow 50 Pyramid Full Sun - Part Shade
    White 4 Slow - Med 50 Pyramid Full Sun
    Hemlocks
    Canada 3b Med 40 Pyramid Part Shade - Full Shade
    Junipers
    Savin 3 Slow 5X10 Spreading Full Sun - Part Shade
    Green Globe 4 Med 4X4 Globe Part Sun
    Rocky Mountain 3b Slow 15X8 Cone Full Sun
    Wilton Carpet 4 Slow - Med 2X8 Spreading Full Sun - Part Sun
    Prince of Wales 4 Slow - Med 4X8 Spreading Full Sun - Part Sun
    Pfitzer 4 Slow - Med 4X6 Large Spreading Full Sun - Part Shade
    Sargent 4 Slow - Med 2X8 Spreading Full Sun - Part Shade
    Pines
    Austrian 3b Med 60 Pyramid Full Sun
    Mugo 3 Slow 10 Globe Full Sun
    Ponderosa 3 Med 60 Pyramid Full Sun
    Red 2 Med 60 Pyramid Full Sun
    Scotch 3 Slow - Med 50 Pyramid Full Sun
    White 3 Med 60 Pyramid Full Sun - Part Sun
    Spruce
    Black Hills 2 Slow 40 Pyramid Full Sun
    Norway 3b Med - Fast 60 Pyramid Full Sun - Part Sun
    Yews
    Japanese Spreading 4 Slow 5X6 Large Spreading Part Shade - Full Shade
    Japanese Dwarf 4 Slow 3X5 Large Spreading Part Shade - Full Shade
    Taunton Spreading 4 Slow 3X5 Large Spreading Full Sun - Full Shade

  • heleninramsey
    16 years ago

    The area is 30 long, how much width do you have to work with?

    Helen.

  • jazzygardener
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    The arborvitaes are planted in wooden raised beds that are about 3 feet wide. The garden it's self is about 15 feet wide x 30 feet long, so I have some room to work with. It also sits on a slight slope. I'm leaning towards adding another raised bed in front of this one and moving the arborvitae to the new front raised bed because they grown slower than lilac. Then I would plant some lilacs and maybe a few small trees to the to back bed.It's a lot of work but, I believe that it will be well worth the effort once I'm done.What do you think? This was my hosta garden at one time but,I'm really tired of looking at the boat (plus this neighbor is very nosey) so I've decided to just turn it into a shrub garden. I just want my peace and privacy.

  • heleninramsey
    16 years ago

    Sounds like you have some nice space to work in, which allows you more options. A mixed shrub border would not only provide a screen but give you alot of interest as well. If it were mine, depending on the amount of slope, I think I would ditch the raised beds, ammend the soil and come up with a nice grade, and then use a variety of trees and shrubs along the property line. Often times, solid lines of one specimen look like a wall of plants, and when one plant goes bad, the whole wall looks bad, it does not have to look like you are hiding something, you simply give yourself something better to look at. If the shrub/tree border is successful, even if there is a hint of boat or trailer in sight, you won't notice so much because the border will be dominant. There are so many things to play with here, it is really exciting. You can pop in small flowering crabs, things with fall color, shrubs with summer flowers, you can even toss in a perennial or two. Play with height and texture, evergreen and deciduous. You do not have to abandon your arborvitae either, just use them in groups of 3 or so, the evergreen is an important component because it gives you winter color. Make this project a gardening adventure, not a chore, and you will have more than privacy and peace at the end. Well thats my 2 cents anyway, more like 20...I do run on when it is March and -1 degrees outside.....Helen.

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