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Favorite hardy roses

Posted by StPaulite z4 MN (My Page) on
Fri, May 20, 05 at 23:41

I want to add another rose to my garden, so I'd love to hear which roses people like best in their gardens. So far I've got Wm. Baffin, John Cabot, Bonica, Hansa, Magnifica, Purple Pavement and Carefree Beauty. The Baffins put on a spectacular show in late spring, but its the Carefree Beauty I love best.


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All of my hardy roses have been added since last spring so it's a little too soon to say which are really hardy and are great performers. I really like my Buck roses though. From last year I have winter sunset, prairie harvest, hawkeye belle, and carefree beauty. I bought an Easy Elegance rose called Grandma's Blessing late last season and it was beautiful and very healthy. Another Easy Elegance rose, Tahitian Moon, is new and I'm eagerly awaiting it's first blooms. Winnipeg Parks is a small one but a favorite. Suprisingly my own root english roses all made it through the winter. I have Gertrude Jeckyll, Jude the Obscure, Graham Thomas, Abraham Darby, Scepter'D Isle, and Noble Antony.

Sam Kedem in Hastings has a wide variety of hardy roses. His website may be a good place to get more ideas. Also, the Easy Elegance roses are hardy to zone 4 and are just beautiful.

Here are a few websites to check out:
www.kedemroses.com
www.easyelegancerose.com/Garden_index.html
www.helpmefind.com/rose if you find something you like check out more pictures of it here.

Linders & Bachman's both have good selections of Easy Elegance, Buck, and english roses. Good luck, and let us know what you pick..


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"Snow Pavement" is covered with flowers most of the summer. It is the last one to come back in the spring, but when it gets going it is amazing. It sends out shoot after shoot as well. I am going to bring one to the plant swap on June 4th. I have had it for 5 years so it is hardy in South Mpls.

Pauline


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Heheheh... here we are on my subject... :)

I have some that are really OLD varieties and some that are just plain different and lovely:

Mary Queen of Scots
Apothecary's rose
Darlow's Enigma
Baysey's Purple (think that's the spelling)
Champlain (least favorite actually - gets black spot, powdery mildew, and it sags in the rain)
Dart's Dash
Pleasant Valley
Red Pinocchio (this is not hardy here, I baby the heck out of it - but it's very very special to me)
Country Dancer

and I live in Saint Paul too :) All of mine are "own -root" which are the strongest and need the least care, though you need to be patient with them as they take a couple years to get established - BUT if you get the right ones they will NOT need to be tipped, just mulched. The ONLY one I mound up and bury in a cage full of leaves is the RP.

-Marie


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Ohhhh---have been getting into roses the last three years---what I have so far :
Golden Unicorn
William Baffin
John Cabot
Seafoam (glossy disease resistant foliage and tons of pristine white blooms)
New Dawn
Winnepeg Parks
Knockout (sorry, needed to get some confidence w/easy one)

This year added:
Outta the Blue (just opened--WOW)
Quadra
Champlain (eek, hope stays healthy!)
Daydream (got on a whim and am excited to see how it does)
Fairy
Cuthbert Grant
Hansa

Not sure if there will be more roses added yet this season, but it is addicting. I tried to chose roses hardy for my zone (4b/5a) --but since last year was so mild, haven't had a true test yet. I try to get all "own-root" roses as well and don't do any winter protection, but am combating rose slugs as we speak!


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Thanks so much for the info. I actually went down to Spring Valley Roses in WI this weekend. They don't have the widest selection--only hardy roses--but all their stuff is "own root" so I trust them. Of course, I couldn't just buy one--I bought a Snow Pavement (clearly a good choice according to Pauline:), a Golden Eye and The Fairy. I'm especially excited about the Golden Eye. The catalog picture looks stunning--semi-double, bright red blossoms with a golden center.

Marie--How do you like your Darlow's Enigma? I'm looking for something for a shadier location and I hear this is a good rose for that.

Johnine


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I'm curious about Darlow's Enigma too. I've only heard great things, but it all came from people in warmer zones. How big does it get here?


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Mine is quite a size actually. About 4 feet and climbing at the moment. It died all the way back the first couple years I had it, but this year it seems to have required next to no pruning. I have it in a 6' obelisk and it's going to be cascading out the top in no time. Also, it can and enjoys part shade unlike 99% of other roses :) A BIG plus! The fragrance is VERY strong musk rose and if the wind is right I can smell it across the street - and I live on Larpenteur :) this isn't an exaggeration either.

-Marie


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I love Topaz Jewel, from Sam Kedem Roses. It's very hardy, and a lovely yellow. I also have William Baffin, Henry Kelsey, Champlain, and Blanc Double de Couvert.


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I have Lexington which is a small bush with yellow flowers
Cuthbert Grant
John Cabot
Sir Thomas Lipton
Rosarie d' laHaye (hope that is spelled right!)
George VanCouver
Hope for Humanity (outstanding repeat red bloomer)
Hansa
Champlain
Rosa Rubra (I think that is the name it goes by now!)

I love the Buck Roses and will be adding more this year.
I have Sunbonnet Sue
Pearlie May
I forgot the others at the moment and I am too lazy to go look.
I am adding Hi Neighbor and Country Dancer.

Roses are one of my weaknesses, after back surgery, I switched to the Hardy, Rugosas and gave up on the Hybrid Teas.


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MinnesotaSue,

I see you have a Hansa and a Rosaraie de L'Haye (sp?). I keep reading that they're nearly identical, but that Rosaraie is more "refined" than Hansa. Since I have no idea what that means exactly, I'm curious which you prefer. Also, where did you get the Rosaraie?

Johnine


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OOPS - I just realized I'd left my newest rose off the list :)

I also have "Silver Shadows" I can't wait to see a bloom off it this year... it's still very small (own-root of course)

-Marie


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I have quite a few rugosas which are truly "easy care" and hardy--Added "Polar Ice" last year-heavy bloomer and came through the winter great!! Planted "Funny Face" (easy-care Bailey rose) last June--survived the winter in fine shape so I planted "Grandma's Blessing", "My Hero" and "Sunrise Sunset". Lost a few Griffith Bucks- Love Winnipeg Parks, Lambert Klosse, Alexander McKenzie, Ramblin' Red, Morden Sunrise


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Rivrat- Grandma's Blessing is a beautiful plant. I got one late last season and it came through winter very well. It reminds me of a lighter version of Winnipeg Parks.

I have one big problem right now. I still have Wildberry Breeze (rugosa), Graham Thomas, Stanwell Perpetual, and Reine des Violettes to plant and no where to put them. I've already relocated some perennials to make room for more roses, but now I'm having trouble finding places for the perennials to go too.


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I have a question about Polar Ice. Is this the same rose as Polareis? I swear I saw Polareis listed as an 8' shrub, but the Polar Ice rose I saw in the Orion Roses cataloque was a 4-footer. I'm in the market for one of these, if you know a local source, I'd love the info. I tried a Canadian source, but they ignored my e-mail and I didn't follow up with a call. My loss. Thanks, Karen


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Karen--Don't know anything about "Polareis". I got "Polar Ice" from Spring Hill Roses in Wisconsin bare root a year ago. It took right off- had large clusters of very double blooms and reached a height of about 2 1/2 feet. It seems to be a rose of moderate height. It is my favorite rugosa as of now.


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Johnine, I have both Hansa and Roseraie d' la Hay (correct spelling) in my NJ garden, but not here. I guess I personally am more attached to RdlH, but it depends really on what you're after in a rugosa. Hansa is large and bushy and full like a hedge or thicket, even in shade, while RdlH is less shrubby and more arching and she's in full sun. She is also much more fragrant than Hansa and has more blooms that last a little longer (but that part may be due to the sun vs shade issue). The fragrance is to die for though. Both of mine are own-root and Hansa suckers and spreads horizontally, while RdlH just sits politely in the very spot I planted her, only growing taller.

I'm curious to hear what Sue will say about hers here in MN.


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spelling! argh

Oops....that's Roseraie de l'Hay. NOW it's correct. I promise.


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St. Paulite: Sorry it took me awhile to get back here.
I really don't know what they mean by refined either. I like both of them equally well, however, the R. d'LaHaye is more fragrant and is a repeat bloomer more so than Hansa. My Hansa has been very suseptible to cane borers. I have had to cut it back to the ground twice in ten years to get rid of them. Hansa is more of an upright bush for me than d'LaHaye (not sure the spelling is correct!)
I keep them both as they are good performers.


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Our all time favorite is Hope for Humanity, it got over 6 feet in our gardens last year but now we moved all 10 of them to our farm so they will not get so big this year but... I also bought 2 more for the end of our driveway, I am hoping they get as big as they did at our other place as kind of a showy beginning to our driveway. This rose is awesome, dark red blooms constantly all summer. Very hardy, the year before with no cover, it stayed alive 4 feet high thoughout that winter.
At our other place, that was the rose that was asked about the most, very impressive rosebush.


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Hi KarenN3....Polareis is probably Polar Ice. Polareis is German and means Polar Ice in English. It's possible that the rose was developed in Germany. I've notice German names along with English ones on some perennials when I buy them,and they are usually direct translations. Anyway, I don't know for sure, but it's probably the same thing.


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In my opinion it is an unfortunate thing, that according the the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature it is legal to translate cultivar names from the original language to another. But it is only supposed to happen in certain and unusual circumstances, like if the name is "unpronounceable" in the language. Taken lightly, there could be a myriad of translations for one cultivar. What a mess.

So we get lilac 'Beauty of Moscow' from the original 'Krashavitsa Moscvy'(phonetically correct, although not the right cyrillic spelling). At least I haven't seen lilac 'Hope' instead of 'Nadezda' yet.

Polar Ice instead of Polareis is inexcusable, IMO. And I am not sure it would stand up to the nomenclature rules.

Rick


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I also love Hope for Humanity. I have mine on a trellis which has double the blooms from last year. It's 6'.

Morden Blush is a beautiful everbloomer.
Cuthbert Grant is second year and going to put on a really big show.
Carefree Wonder is so so. Thin stems and nodding blooms. Maybe it will get stronger in time.

The easy elegance My Hero was new last year and not winter protected and died to the crown. It is coming back now but only 6" high so far. I'm dissapointed with this one. If I need to winter protect something I'd rather do it with an Austin or OGR.

I have planted 30 more roses that will require winter protection this year. But most of them are fragrant which you just can't get with the really hardy types except for rugosa's.


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Hi, Just checking back in and saw the Polareis discussion. I think everyone is right, they are the same rose, and the nomenclature should not be changed. Suzy Verrier says this rose, for her, got taller than 4', (about 7' x 6') and I kinda trust her information, or maybe she's just lucky. That's why I thought they might be different roses. Almost bought Beauty of Moscow this spring, and this was the first I saw it listed this way. My nursery sent Madame Lemoine instead. A nice lilac also, but I sent it back. Perhaps I wasn't ready to even plant it this year. Thanks, Karen


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Thank you all for your great responses. I got lots of ideas. So many in fact I went down to Sam Kedems and bought two climbing roses. I relocated two Dropmore Scarlet honeysuckles to a shadier spot to replace some Sweet Autumn Clematis that didn't make it through the winter. Which left two sunny spots in my garden on a fence open. Which had to be filled--by roses. Anyway, I got Autumn Sunset and Ramblin' Red. The Autumn Sunset is Zone 5, but it was so pretty and smelled so good I couldn't resist. To help it survive the winter, would taking the canes down and covering them with straw help?

Thanks.


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I've been following this with great levels of personal conflict. I have Morden blush, Rugosa Nearly Wild, a pink fairy, and another like my Morden but deep pink and I dont remember the name. I love my rose blooms, but in general I really don't like the plants. The pests (including deer), the diseases, the deadheading, the feeding and watering, the thorns, the winter protection. There's a lot in my opinion working against me loving these plants. I've been considering removing mine for two years now. I've had so much space to fill though that I've kept them. But once space becomes premium, I don't think these are going to rate.

So what is it about roses that you are willing to work so hard? Do I just need to try different varieties? I actually plan to keep my fairy - when my others were naked due to black spot, this was a beauty.


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For me, roses have become an addiction. There are so many to choose from and so much to learn that it's never boring. I guess I like the challenge or something. A little bit of work = lots of payback. I will admit that I'm getting away from the non hardy hybrid tea/grandiflora/floribundas and trying to get hardier Buck, Explorer, rugosa, antique, easy elegance, and a few David Austin roses. The David Austins are iffy for hardiness, but many of the rest are good choices.

Most rugosas are good choices. They are winter hardy and can't be sprayed for pests/diseases. A few of my favorite Canadian roses are George Vancouver, Alexander Mackenzie, and Winnipeg Parks. Carefree Beauty is a very nice Buck rose. There are many other wonderful roses out there that really aren't that much work. I'm sure others can suggest some too.

I also love it when I walk through the neighborhood and spot some roses. I think they make the garden look so much nicer. Three years ago I had 5 roses, last year I had around 50, and now I'm inching past 75 and am running out of space to put new ones.

Here's Winnipeg Parks

Laura.


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I agree with Laura--The payback is worth the effort. I understand, though, about the look of some roses--especially the Rugosas. Once they're finished blooming the shrub isn't all that and a bag of chips. But the flowers are so beautiful and fragrant, and if you look for hardy, continuous bloom (or nearly continous bloom) roses you might be pleasantly surprised. I highly recommend Carefree Beauty if you want a hybrid tea rose look but all the hardiness you'll need for zone 4. Another excellent choice is Bonica. It has arching canes covered in pink to near-white blooms all summer. It reminds me a bit of The Fairy, just on a larger scale.


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Rugosas can get amazingly tall-especially in light of tough MN winters. My neighbor has a spectactular 9' display next to her back fence. They also have some of the meanest thorns of any shrub I have ever encountered. I haven't found a pair of gloves yet that can stand up to a Rugosa.


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meeperx - that may be a bit sweeping generalization of rugosa roses. My Rugosa 'Nearly Wild' rarely gets taller than 2 ft, is no more thorny than most roses I've encountered and I don't have any problems with handling them carefully with gloves on.

While they are fragrant, it isn't enough for me to love them. I am going to look into Carefree Beauty and Bianca though.


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Actually, Nearly Wild is classed as a floribunda. One rugosa I can think of that isn't supposed to get large is Charles Albanel. It's listed on HelpMeFind as growing to 4'.


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  • Posted by jel48 Z3/4 Minnesota (My Page) on
    Mon, Jun 27, 05 at 17:34

My rose garden is shaping up! This is a new are for me. I've bought the odd tea rose in the past, enjoyed the flowers, and always mourned it when it died (usually in the first winter - and THAT was in Nebraska before moving to Minnesota 10+ years ago).

But... I decided I wanted a rose garden. And I admit, I did buy one tea rose last year - Jackson & Perkins Sundance - their 2004 rose of the year and is it ever a beauty - http://www.dirtgardener.com/Roses_NewIntroductions/Roses2004/Sundance.html - and yes, it did survive. I kept it in a large pot and buried it in my veggie garden for the winter (my own variation of the MN tip method :-). Right now it's back in the pot and has rewarded me with 7-8 lovely blooms already.

But... it's not one of my rose garden roses. I researched all winter and came up with a list and then ordered 7 roses from High Country Roses in northern Utah. They ship all own-root roses and I picked only the ones that looked like they'd need NO babying here in southern MN! Then I brought home two roses from the June plant swap (thank you very much Marie and Pauline - your roses are settling in very nicely). And just today, I picked up three more at Fleet Farm.

Here's my list, and I'd love comments on how anyone likes (or even dislikes) any of the roses on the list and also what kind of luck you've had with survival and any other comment's you'd care to throw out there. With the exception of the three from Fleet Farm, they are all planted in the new rosebed and looking pretty good at the moment!

From High Country Roses:
William Baffin (put in two to grow on an arbor)
Rosa rugosa rubra
Henry Hudson (bought two of these also 'cause he's so pretty)
Rosa. glauca
Rosa acicularis

From Marie and Pauline
Apothecary's Rose
Snow Pavement

From Fleet farm and as yet, unplanted
Carefree Delight MEIpotal
Chuckles
Morden Blush


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Morden Blush is very hardy here with almost continuous blooms, It got a little BS last year but not bad enough for spray. However, this year I'm spraying since I bought 30 rose bushes and some are vulnerable, and I really need them to be healthy going into the winter so they survive.


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My rose list is at work but I'll see if I can do this from memory. I know I'm being a little optimistic about hardiness on my Austins, but I'm willing to take a gamble on those. None of the roses listed will get more than a light covering over the crown for winter...

Hardy roses planted last year (all made it through the winter just fine):
Henry Kelsey
Ramblin Red - a favorite
George Vancouver -a favorite
Cambridge
Alexander Mackenzie - a definite favorite!
Bonica
Winnipeg Parks
Hawkeye Belle - pretty blooms but many of mine ball
Prairie Harvest
Winter Sunset
Carefree Beauty
Morden Blush
Purple Pavement
Champlain
Nearly Wild
Carefree Delight
Knock Out -- may have gotten lucky on it surviving winter
Gertrude Jeckyll -- my smelliest rose!
Graham Thomas
Scepter'D Isle
Abraham Darby
Jude the Obscure -- love the smell
Noble Antony
Grandma's Blessing -- one of my favorites

Hopefully hardy roses added this year:
Konigin von Danemark
Morning Blush
Quietness
Mrs. Doreen Pike -- a david austin rugosa!
Wildberry Breeze
Hansa
Christopher Marlowe
The Mayflower
Eglantyne
Barbara Worl
Heritage
Sea Foam - love all the little white flowers
Country Music
Aunt Honey -- looks like it will be a bloom machine
Prairie Sunset
Polonaise
Distant Drums -- love the unique colors
Stanwell Perpetual
Tahitian Moon
Morden Sunrise
Day Dream
Prairie Sunrise
Honeysweet
Reine des Violettes
Charlotte
Redoute
The Prince
Wildeve
Friends Forever (a cross of Heritage x William Baffin!)

I have too many to comment individually on, but so far I like each and every one of them. A few I haven't seen bloom yet, but the only one I probably wouldn't buy again is Champlain. It's a pretty red, but I don't feel there's anything all that special about mine. Maybe I'll grow to like it more after it shows me what it's capable of.

Laura.


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Hi, A thought about William Baffin-they gtow vigorously. I put two on a 7'x4' trellis and years later went back to the old house and they have taken it over. Admittedly the new gardener there doesn't like to prune them. But I think two need a pretty large support. It's a great rose for MN. Rosa glauca is one of my favorites for leaf color and hips. Right now I'm exploring why it defoliated last year. Karen


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My favorite rose for winter hardiness and disease resistance is the Winnipeg Parks. I deadhead and they bloom profusely all summer.


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My favorite Canadian shrub rose is "Lambert Klosse". It has large, very double pink blooms which it produces in large quantities all summer. The foliage is very glossy and disease resistant. It is probably the hardiest shrub rose that I grow. The grandiflora "Queen Elizabeth" is in it's "pedigree". I like "Winnipeg Parks" also but "Lambert Klosse" comes through our tough winter with far more green wood.


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Hello Two Huskies and Others,

It appears that both of us have been very busy the past 2 years. My neighbor cut down three 3 story trees this year and now I put in 3 new rosebeds. I see we have many of the same roses, but this year I tried alot of HT's and notice you planted some last year. How are they doing for you this summer and how tall are they? Did you winter protect?

This is my rose list and notes I needed to take so I might as well do it here and multitask. I hope no one minds this lengthy report.

Last Year and Previous Years

Hope for Humanity - love it's color and tallness
Cuthbert Grant - Great spring flush but nodding blooms
Morden Blush = Heavy bloomer
Outta the Blue - Great fragrance last year, hardly this year
The Dark Lady - Always in bloom
Scepter'd Isle - Great first flush
Bonanza - Pretty initial color then changes to ugly
My Hero - Fades quickly, not cane hardy
April Moon - SP'd it, not vigorous
Carefree Wonder - Pretty this year
Pirette Pavement - Don't spray with miracle grow
Winipeg Parks - OK but rose slugs like it

New This Year

HT's

These came from Menard's in peat pots for $5
Queen Elizabeth - small
Intrigue - small
Tiffany - small
Peace - small
Sunsprite - small
JFK - tallest one right now and 8 blooms
Love - Doing well with 5 blooms
Mister Lincoln - 2 blooms
Miss All American Beauty - small
Chrysler Imperial - small
Lady X - small

These came from Linder's all are vigorous Best Place for HT's

Full Sail - 6" smelly blooms absolutely my fav
Hot Cocoa - Love it
Double Delight = Has powdery mildew but controlled
Scentimental = Not that fragrant
Neptune - #2 favorite very smelly, needs daily watering
Queen Mary 2 - Doesn't even compare to Full Sail

HT's from other places including Krazy Keith's

Bewitched - Own root only 2 spindly canes 1 bloom
First Prize - Huge blooms
Tropicana - very new to me
Hi Neighbor - Nice first flush
Yves Piaget - Krazy Keiths bareroot has one bloom
Yves St. Laurent - KK bareroot Pretty ruffles 4 blooms
Fredric Mistral - KK bareroot not blooming yet
Just Joey
Heirloom

Mixed Roses

These came from Sam Kedem
Theresa Bugnet - don't spray with miracle grow
Aunt Honey - Growing well but only a few blooms
Reine Des Violettes - Nice spring flush
Astrid Lindgren - Pretty apricot-pink blooms
Glamis Castle - very small plant but 6 blooms
Eglantine - growing well but floppy
Abraham Darby - "
Graham Thomas - Slow growth and only 1 bloom
Fisherman's Friend - Great 1st flush waiting for repeat no floppies

Mail Order Roses
Paul Neyron - had/has 4 huge 6" in blooms on yet small bush
Alfred Colomb - 13 blooms on yet small bush
Henry Nevard - had/has 4 large blooms on yet small bush
Eutin - Starting 1st flush, has 6 canes w/15 buds per cane
Red Eden - 2nd flush, 3 weeks worth of long lasting blooms
Friends Forever
Rockin Robin - lots and lots of small blooms
Fair Bianca - rose slugs like it and many browned buds
Rose de Recht - lots or new growth
Karl Forster - slow new growth

Yikes I planted more than the 30 mentioned in previous posts. At least the poorhouse has pretty roses.


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Carola,
Yes, I winter protect my hybrid teas -- Minnesota Tip. It is a lot of work though. Mine all made it through the winter and look great right now. With all the other great hardy/semi hardy roses out there I most likely won't be buying any more tender ones. I think most of mine are 3-4' tall right now. By the end of summer some may be 5-6' though.

I see you got Friends Forever too. I am really excited about that rose. When mine came it had a few little flowers on it and now it's ready to start blooming again. I can't wait!

I broke down and went to Sam Kedem's on Friday. I wanted to get a few antiques now so I could see them bloom next spring.
Here's what I came back with:
Souvenir de Philemon Cochet
Baronne Prevost
Cardinal de Richelieu
Tradscendent
Dakota Song -- this rose is really pretty.
Pretty Jessica
Crocus Rose
Tuscany Superb

I absolutely cannot buy any more roses this year. I think I'm pushing about 30 new ones too! And yep, I'm broke too..


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Hi Two Huskies,

I've been on vacation in Taylors Falls. Love that place, so much to do. Canoeing, horseback riding, water park, and of course the scenery.

I don't think I'll to the MN tip on my HT's way too much work. I will mound them and use collars. So I'll have to see next year how tall they get, however I planted the bud union about 3" below surface. Hope that helps.

One of the longer canes on Friends Forever fell from the wind. I read here on the forum from somebody that this bush has an odd growing habit, have to wait and see I guess. Not many people grow this one. Let's stay in touch about it.


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Carola, yes, lets stay in touch about Friends Forever. Mine has grown some since I got it this spring, but I'm hoping it will fill out some more. It's blooming again and the flowers sure are pretty!


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I think David Austin roses are a lot hardier than most people realize. I've had several (The Prince/The Squire/Gertrude Jekyll/Pat Austin/Dark Lady) for a few years now and they come back every year-my 'Princes' for at least 5 years now (no tipping and minimal mulching).

Two of my new Austins for this year are Jude the Obscure and Tradscendent.

Maybe it's just me, but for all their 'hardiness', I've never gotten a Buck rose to make it through a winter here.


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This is a very old thread, but I'm still going to add my two cents worth. I certainly agree that many roses just aren't worth the expense, time, risk w/ chemicals and thorn wounds, etc. The worst thing that's ever happened here is that we ended up with a one eyed dog, after she ran into a climbing rose bush. That rose is HISTORY! My hubby has ripped out a few that have grabbed him, as well. SO...I'm trying very hard to now stick to my priorities as best I can, and purchasing own roots that are as disease resistant as I can find, very hardy, have the FRAGRANCE that I adore, are manageable in size, the pastel colors I love, in a graceful, pretty plant with at least decent foliage. Some are shade tolerant (we have shade in back and sun in the front),and most that I have are now THORNLESS, as well.


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I'm coming into this quite late but thought I would also add my favorites that survive here in North Dakota.

Morden Sunrise (goes through a fabulous array of colors)
Morden Sunrise rose

Hope for Humanity (mentioned by others, great blood red color))
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Morden Fireglow (more pink-red than HfH)
Morden Fireglow rose


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I know this an old thread but I wanted to join in:

Marie Bugnet (beautiful fragrant white blooms)-beautiful olive green foliage.No hips

Prairie Peace-once bloomer beautiful orange apricot blooms, hard to find.

Red Frau Daugmar Hartop


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Does anyone know anything about Gertrude Jekyll. I'm a rookie and am looking for a climbing rose that blooms all summer. I live on a lake near Annandale and I think I'm in zone 4. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks


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I don't know about Gertrude Jekyll but, I'm glad you brought this thread up. I would REALLY love to know how everyones roses have made it through the winters.
Kitty


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RE: Favorite hardy roses

My Knockouts have new growth on them, so I think they came through!


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RE: Favorite hardy roses

I grow Gertrude Jekyll, a David Austin rose, and love it; comes back every year from the base and puts out big, heavily scented dark pink flowers. I've even transplanted a couple of suckers (which are rare) and they've done well. Highly recommended, though she's a mean, thorny cuss.

Others that do well for me: Morden Fireglow, beautiful for its orange-red flowers against lime-green foliage, though it gets black spot like crazy near the end of the season; Frau Karl Druschki, a beautiful white, absolutely scentless; From Griffith Buck: Hawkeye Belle, Winter Sunset. Gentle Persuasion.

Others: Snowdrift;; Jude the Obscure (David Austin); Mme. Hardy; Carefree Beauty; Nevada; Abraham Darby (D. Austin); Explorers: John Cabot, William Baffin, Champlain, Martin Frobisher, a beautiful shell pink (though the flowers cling to the bush when spent and take on the look of dirty-pink wet kleenex); Cuthbert Grant, a great, beautiful rose, prairie hardy.

If you're looking for a hybrid tea that will come through a MN winter without tipping or even mulching, I recommend Love and Peace. I learned about this one from a guy from (as I recall) Afton, who had a blog. One day he decided to close the blog down, but I'll always be grateful for that recommendation. L&P dies back to the ground but returns every year.

Oh, and if you can find it: Mme. Le Gras de St. Germain, an old French rose, thick with petals, thornless canes, pure white, and a heavy lemony-sweet fragrance. Also easily propagated from cuttings. I grow this one on a trellis, with a dark violet clematis.

Would love to hear from others on this topic.

GaryStPaul


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