It is possible (along with dozens of others). The leaf size should be 11x9 but could be smaller in a pot. Could you show a close up of the leaf that is directly behind the leaf in the first pic?

Thanks for responding! No, I don't think they were local. I usually got most of my roses from Heirloom, ARE, and one other whose name I can't recall. These two particular roses may have come from elsewhere, since I was looking for specific names, but I just don't remember. However, you've reminded me that somewhere I did keep some records.... if I can only find that notebook.... LOL it was about 25 years ago but I bet that notebook is around here somewhere. Although I'm not sure that will help me assign which name to which rose, but it's a start. Thank you! :) Dee

So instead of just googling I remembered the Hosta Library and went there, and it does seem that either American Halo or Northern Exposure/Halo could be contenders. I just don't remember those names but I guess that doesn't really mean anything! I'll continue to look through my old notes and records and see what I can find. Interestingly, my friend just moved and invited me to take stuff from her garden. Three days ago I took a baby Northern Exposure (literally about two leaves) because I thought the coloring was lovely. Funny if this is what I already have! Thank you so much for all your help! Much appreciated! :) Dee

I will take up the gauntlet of this query. I don't clearly understand what your question is. American Chestnut (Castanea dentata) has toothed leaf margins. It doesn't have bristle tips like Quercus acutissima and other oak species with bristle tips on the leaf margins. Sawtooth Oak likely would not yet have been known to those naming North American trees, so would not have been in the running to be a Chestnut simile. Quercus prinus - also known as Basket Oak, Rock Oak, and Rock Chestnut Oak - is a great tree. I don't know indisputably where the name Chestnut Oak arises, but I can surmise a lot by observing this tree in many situations over the years, knowing its native range, its characteristics, and historical uses of the plant. First: take a look at this oak's native range. It is almost entirely coincidental with American Chestnut in eastern North America. This alone might have made someone name a tree - guilt by association. Second: I'd suggest the leaves you've illustrated are not entirely indicative of Quercus prinus' range of leaf morphology. I have photos of a variety of trees that grow around Louisville KY, from parks, forests, university campus - as well as a singular specimen here at Viburnum Valley. While I can observe leaves that look like what you've shown, I find more that are narrower and similar in conformation to American Chestnut - less the sharper dentate margins. This oak's arrangement of leaves may be similar enough to Chestnut (I cannot claim massive experience in Chestnut observation, but I've seen more than a couple) that this may be in part a reason to have historically named it as such. I also suspect that this oak's trunk and bark characteristics may have had enough similarity to Chestnut that it could lead to such naming. Finally, the number of uses of Chestnut Oak may have made it comparable to American Chestnut in value. The edible acorns, the high-tannin bark, the White Oak group wood - all these were valuable to those around when naming species on the North American continent was taking place. Thank you, Christopher CNC, for instigating this discussion and rumination. I plan to seek the comfort of several tomes in my collection, to see what else I can unearth about Quercus prinus and how it came to earn its common name(s).