HI, sorry but I already have the sweet autumn. I was looking for others that i don't have. Forgot to say -- no Whites pls.

PM, there is chicken wire on each section of the arbor. Not all of the plants are climbers though, so there is string tying several plants up. On the fence behind the baptisia is clematis Blue Belle. Woody, I really like Pagoda. And Blue Boy too. And a ton of others too obviously! Aotearoa is a really strong grower for me too. You might give it a try if you find one. I know Lost Horizons had it at one point. Maybe worth a call to them to see if they'd put one of these 3 plants aside for you. They were all a tangled mess when I was last there.

Sue, if you want to add that info to your profile so that it shows automatically by your name, here's how: Go to Your Houzz in the upper right of every page, click Edit Profile, and on the left side click advanced settings. Well down the advanced settings page is a blank labeled Climate Zone for Garden Forums along with a link to find your zone. If you add info on your state or the nearest large city you will get even better information since zone only relates to average coldest winter temperatures. Then return to the top of the page and click Done Editing.

Well, you may be a good candidate for the vile weed. My aunt (from Washington) was here last year when it flowered, and was admiring it. I sent her photos of it absolutely all over the woodland near the lake, and the areas around a creek. I think I convinced her it was evil (though it may not have been in her dry cold climate). I mentioned that fact to her (just in case). The other thing is that sometimes it smells sweet, other plants smell VILE and attract flies, it's rather variable. Hee, maybe it's a survival tactic though...there's more flies in the world than bees. If no one gets you cuttings, i can probably provide in spring. I don't think in my heat, trying to ship cuttings now would be good. And fall would be a bad time to root them. I'd rather send you an entire plant...but it's awfully hard to find a small one..maybe because they grow so fast.