This was labeled Lavender Crush obviously not but I kept it because it's a nice climber. At first I thought Altissimo, but it has too many petals and it's a black-edged-red. (climbing with Pope JP II and Pink Flamingo) Ideas? Carla in Sac

Bidens or Dahlia. Any chance of a picture of the stem ends showing terminal buds and a shot from further back showing the whole plant? On balance I'm thinking Bidens alba.

Randi Since of my location/growing zone, my plants have to be inside for a long time. And I am just lucky that I have garden so I can put them outdoors for Summer. Many ppl live in apartments and may not have even a small balcony, and still grow very nice and healthy plants indoors. To prevent lots of etiolation, I use supplemental lights. And I believe that keeping them relatively cool (not freezing) and dry helps to slow down growth during short winter days. Many do not water succulents for extended periods of time, like 2 mo or even longer. But if they are kept warm, they likely keep growing more and need lots of light. Many are dormant during cold months anyways. I do not know how cold is winter in your location, but perhaps plants can overwinter in unheated GH or sunroom?

Jon , a pic of the whole would have been the deciding factor also ,,,a distinct form Garen , I think it's time for a pic update before a camera won't fit in your yard ha , ron