No, but I do know they are not native. The botanical name is Rosa laevigata and from what I've seen birds eat the hips, but humans do not (there are other rose species that provide the ones that humans eat).

However, now that you have the botanical name you can search around for yourself.

Thanks!

Yes, I 've used them for tea. Is this the large white single-flower climber? My mother grew this rose and I am looking for it. Do you have any rooted suckers that you'd care to trade for tiarella, hosta 'Patriot', purple iris, or perfume-scented (tender) geranium?

Did you ever get your Cherokee Rose? I have seeds if you would like some. I am looking for grasses or russian sage. Have nottackled it yet, but I can try to root these roses as I have to cut some of them back anyway.
Thanks! Rosemary

Berta,
I can send you all the cuttings you want, maybe some rooted small ones, for postage.
Please send me an email address.
Rosemary

Thank you very much ROSEBUSH. My email is: bugsnpugs_104@charter.net. Let me know what you need for postage and I will get it to you. Again thank you, berta

Cherokee rose (Rosa laevigata) is a non-native plant listed as an invasive pest plant by the Southeast Exotic Pest Plant Council. It is disheartening to see forum members arranging exchanges and further spreading this pest plant.

Yeah, no kidding, Rufino.

I too am looking for my very own Cherokee Rose :) My mother is from Georgia and she gave me my name from that flower. I have never seen one and I have checked in with Swansens and sky and kept an eye out at all the chains but have never found it.

I live in Maple Leaf near Northgate and would LOVE a starter! :) Thanks!

oops! guess i should have read the entire post! well, i could either keep it in a pot or how is the carpenteria californica
for a similar effect? what is something like it?

Some places might classify the Cherokee Rose as a 'pest plant', but in Georgia, it is our state flower.

Rosebush,

I would like to have some cherokee rose seeds or small rootings if you still have any that you would let me pay for.

Please get back with me

wgilmore@liveoakhomes07.com

And I am so sorry that an Asian rose is the state flower of Georgia. Do we not have Georgia plants that we can be proud to call our state flower? Must we use an alien plant?

I live in northern Wisconsin, would i have any luck growing this rose, tthanks :)

Tammy -- I doubt you would have much luck that far north with Cherokee rose unless you've got a greenhouse. I assume you're in zone 3 or 4.

Is your interest related to Walking Dead, perhaps? If so I'm guessing you won't really be open to someone from this forum suggesting a native wildflower as an alternative, which is probably the response you'll get on this particular forum. If you're serious about pursuing it, you might want to ask on the Roses or Perennials forums.

But if you'd like to hear about some natives for your area, I'm sure we've got forum members here who could suggest some for you...

State flower for Georgia???????? I just had to google that and see for sure. Guess what? Its true. Then I dug deeper ----Oklahoma designated the **** NON NATIVE **** Oklahoma Rose as its state flower which was decided in 2004 (NO ONE ASKED ME TO VOTE). The site mentions that Georgia has the Cherokee Rose (China) and Iowa & N. Dakota has wild prairie rose as theirs as they were justifying this choice of a non native rose being the choice.

Yea, right, if someone else did it why not us? Besides, the damned rose IS named 'Oklahoma Rose" after all-- actually I am merely imagining the committees comments on that bit of justification and decision making facts to consider.

Georgia lists Azalea as their state wildflower.

Our state wildflower is Gaillardia. State grass is Indian Grass. State tree is Cercis canadensis (Redbud). At least these are all natives.

So...........I'm wondering how they (whoever THEY are) decide on a state "flower"? There is obviously a separate category for the State Flower as opposed to State Wildflower. Seems they make non-native exception clauses for the State Flower.

Just think, your state could decide that Knockout Roses is YOUR state flower at any time. Ours was chosen in 2004 most likely by a group of silly women and politicians who wouldn't know a wildflower if it up and bit them on the butt and/or who just like roses. Who doesn't?

Personally, I am not a rose person.

This state flower crud was a sad discovery for Yours Truly. I'm embarrassed and feeling sort of sick.

OKLAHOMA ROSE. Gads almighty ! Now really guys---doesn't that hybrid just look picture perfect?

That's pretty ridiculous Texasranger! Not that what flower a state picks as it's representative has much impact on anything, but thinking behind it is, well, IS there any thinking behind that? Good Lord, I thought state symbols were supposed to be just that, symbolic of the state!

Although, it does remind me, Utah changed their state tree to the quaking aspen last year because they didn't like the idea of having the Colorado blue spruce as a symbol of Utah (of course, they wont come right out and say that). However, unlike a hybrid rose, at least the aspen makes sense...

And that's doubly funny because Picea pungens is a tree native to Utah!

Yes, aspen is a fine choice too.

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Maybe the tree change was decided by your state's garden clubs like our state flower was. My guess of what went down here was it was probably the wife of some Okie senator or state rep putting pressure on her husband to get this important bill passed so she could go back and proudly brag and gloat to her fellow garden club friends that the lowly weed gaillardia had finally been replaced by a classy tea rose. I mean, who better than a garden club person to decide these things knowing that garden clubs are into gardens, not roadsides, national lands set aside or pristine areas. At least Oklahoma did set aside some grasslands.

Attention hybrid tea rose breeders----Name a rose after a state and such flattery just might get you the same honor as the Okie Rose did.

Yes they are native, but the "official" reason for the change was because P. pungens is fairly scarce and the aspen is much more representative of the people of the beehive state. Course that's just their way of being neighborly to those of us on the other side of the border ;). To be honest though, I think the "Colorado" prefix is usually dropped from the common name anyways so who knows?

My state still proudly boasts the Colorado blue spruce as our official state tree, Texas ranger, along with the Rocky Mountain columbine as our state flower (and with our state anthem being "The Land where the Columbines Grow" I don't foresee change on wind with that one). What is somewhat odd is that our state bird, the lark bunting, only actually resides here for about 2 months out of the year to nest and fledge, then it's gone. The reason it was chosen was because its beautiful singing and its vivid mating dance is "reminiscent of the joy that is living in Colorado." Now that's a state symbol I can get behind lol!

ANYWAYS.... From what I read on it, it seems the change next door, in Utah, was spurred by a class of 4th graders. Maybe their teacher was a member of the local garden club though.

I've got a hunch as to what might become Colorado's State Psychoactive Herb.

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Sadly, I think you're right, Tom.

In the beginning, American explorers called this land "sterile" and said it was worthless. They looked out from atop our towering mountains and declared it "the great American desert." It wasn't long though before people realized how wrong they were. Tourists as early as the 1870's came from the Eastern States and across the Atlantic to revel in the glory of Colorado's natural beauty. It even inspired Kathrine Lee Bates to pen "America the Beautiful" as she gazed upon the land from Pikes Peak. Tragically, now everyone associates this fine and wonderful state only with getting high, and not from the altitude. It makes me sad to think that this is what has become of the place that my pioneer ancestors worked so hard to create.

I don't share your melancholy. Colorado beautiful? Yes, of course, and I seriously doubt that aspect of your state's reputation is in any danger. Nor do I think one or two states out of fifty coming to their senses is in any way a dark spot on their reputations....in any way, shape or form.

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I believe it should be legalized, but you yourself have proven that this states reputation, while maybe not "tarnished" has definitely shifted in a whole new direction. Its obvious that when people think of my state now, the first, and in some cases the only, thing that comes to mind is that we are the "weed capital" of the entire nation. That's not something I, as a Coloradoan, am particularly fond or proud of. IF legalization were just one aspect of what this State is, well that's a whole different story then what I hear from people all the time, that legalization is the only thing that this State is.

When I think of Colorado I think of mountains, bass fishing, cactus, Kelly Grummons 'Cold Hardy Cactus', Denver, Silver, gorgeous conifers and cool summers in the mountains. I don't think of pot. Thats not an argument or discussion I ever get into myself, I find too many people are too emotional over it. No one knows my opinion because I never give it.

It could become the way people think of Colorado however, think of Las Vegas for instance. What do you think of? I don't think of plants even though I'm sure theres many of the sort I am drawn to since I love those desert wild ones, I think of the mob, casino's and gambling. Then think of Utah. I think of Mormons when I think of Utah. Places do become linked with whatever the loudest noise or most consistent topic is about.

Well, that's a breath of fresh air Texasranger! Although, I think we fish for a lot more trout than bass lol.

We have a large influx of people moving into the state (Denver I believe is the 5th fastest growing city in the nation). From talking to these people coming from other states, I would say a disproportionate amount of them have flat out told me the reason they chose to move to Colorado was for one reason and one reason only (hint, it doesn't have to do with scenery or a job opportunity). To me, it's not a pretty site when our municipal parks and public areas have become little more than a home for vagrants who's only contribution to the area is an odor lingering around the playground I would like to take my kid to (in theory, you're not supposed to use in public, but, everyone turns a blind eye because "it's legal now, we have we have more important things to worry about" and folks like me just need to get the sticks out of our butts and shut our uppity traps.)

Oh well, such is the way of the world. Someday every state, or most states at least, will legalize it so the novelty of it will wear off. Then we can drop the infatuation people have with Colorado's legalization.

P.s. You may be interested to know that Kelly Grummons is getting rid of Timberline Gardens, at the end of the year, there will be condos being built on the site. Kelly will be focusing all his energy on his online cactus and succulent business. Sad loss for us here in Denver, Timberline was the go-to place for a lot of native perennials and species plants, but for you cactus lovers, it may turn out pretty good.

For me, it was merely an eency-weency bit of attempted humor-nothing more. Sure hit a raw spot with you though, Zach. For my part, back about ten/fifteen years ago when I toured CO with the reggae band I played in at the time, I quickly noticed a more relaxed attitude about that item, which I found refreshing. Not bums in parks, just people with one less hangup. Whatever.

Oh, I'm not even sure I spelled eecny-weency right.

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Zach, I still mentally live in the 20th century in a lot of ways. Heck, the whole world has become something I no longer recognize and my list of new idea stuff just gets longer and longer. I just hope books and paper don't disappear or talking to real people on telephones. On this thing you are talking about, I AM TOTALLY & 100% BORED with the subject and always have been so its easy to stay quiet or just move on to something less in your face because I have heard some endlessly repetitious lectures in my day about the unfairness of illegal etc etc and the justified smugness I now hear is rather gagging. Equally gagging is the sanctimonious priggish stuff. Anyway, Colorado is a lot more than this one issue.

I meant trout (woops, thats embarrassing). My parents were the ones who went there to fish for trout but it was after I was long gone. Me, I grew up on Oklahoma Cat Fish and I prefer it still. Frog legs are good too.

Sad about Timberline. I've never been there but would have liked to go sometime. Its a place I run into inevitably when I'm googling some plant I want. I think Miserable Gardener has mentioned it. Maybe it was Danger Garden? Anyway, I do stumble across it often. I ordered quite a number of cactus pads from Kelly a few years back, they are now big and well established.

Then let me wrap it up by saying that, again, beyond a bit of humor, which by the way, was directed at the concept of "State Anything", a concept which I mostly find amusing if touched by arrogance, and not at one location's legal framework regarding a plant, I too live in the 70's in some sense and for me, I can take that back another decade and a half! But one thing I knew by right around '73 is that Mj should not be the big legal target that it was and still mostly is. And the other is, that Colorado, or any other place for that matter, is only viewed a s a stereotype by those with incredibly shallow minds. There: Done!

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ps....Oh, and that the way you seem to insinuate that this stereotype is my take on it is mildly annoying. But I get over forum skirmishes quickly. I wonder if you will.

Yeah, I understand the humor Tom, and I promise, I do crack a smile and even let out a good chuckle every once in a while. Like you said though, the issue just rubs me the wrong way because I DO feel embarrassed about the way things have unfolded. That's a personal problem I guess, my apologies for projecting it onto you fine folks here.

Well, I've got a confession to make, I prefer catfish to almost any kind of seafood, myself...but that'll be our little secret okay ;). My mom's step-mother is from Blackwell, and, though I realize you go by the name Texasranger, she made sure I grew up shouting "Boomer Sooner" every Saturday. That's not a secret though, I still proudly sport crimson and cream above any other colors lol.

Yeah, we are all sad to see it go, most of the other garden centers and nurseries have gone downhill in this area. Seems to me, just about the next best thing is HCG for the variety of the stuff I like but, I'm not sure how I feel about mail order plants.

I grew up in Kansas and spent a lot of time in Colorado back in the day, but I don't get over there much any more, mostly because I've got friends on the west coast where I've lived a couple times and always seem to use my vacation going back there. I'm particularly fond of the Collegiate Peaks area and the town of Buena Vista. A nice place to be in the hotter part of summer to get away from the humidity farther east. I haven't been there since I got interested in native plants and would love to go up into the alpine tundra areas again.

These days mostly what I hear about Colorado is all the zany stuff going on with legalization. It makes it less appealing to me as a destination. I can understand how it must be frustrating for a native to have your state's vibe/reputation/culture shift in such a way. I have a friend who grew up in San Francisco in the 50s and 60s who just despised the whole psychadelic/hippie thing. He used to say they should have put up big barriers on the highways with signs saying "Go back to Ohio" or wherever.

I expect eventually, as you say, that more states will legalize and people that are seeking that environment will go other places and not just to Colorado. It'll never be the same as it was, but then no place ever is I guess.

Texasranger is one of my favorite shrub, Leucophyllum frutescens aka Texas Sage aka Cenizo aka Texas Ranger . I used to be GreatPlains1 but I made some of the long time northeasterners mad on the Perennials Forum many months back and they reported me to the mods, after three warnings I got kicked off GW. I especially got in trouble talking about volunteer trees a couple times.

Remember: "This sign has sharp edges, do not touch the edges of this sign" but sometimes I forget myself and I say what I really think which some people don't like but most times they just take things wrong.

I'm from Ponca City which is real close to Blackwell by the way.

My favorite drive is over Monarch Pass, HWY 50 between Gunnison and Montrose. Well, it's gorgeous, although mighty long, especially from where I am (and in the middle of the night during a blizzard it is FAAAAAAR from my favorite anything lol). The whole region around South Park is amazing, the Collegiates, Buena Vista, Kenosha Pass when the aspens are all yellow. Theres a couple reservoirs near Fairplay and Hartsel that's surrounded by the Mosquito Rage, and it's awesome to go fishing up there. Then again, I had a land nav course on Grand Mesa last summer, I couldn't find any points I was too distracted by everything! Driving up there there was fields and fields and fields of blueflag iris that I wanted to take home with me haha, hopefully I can pick some up at Timberline this year before it closes.

Yes, it's frustrating, but, there's not much I can do about it. Cultures, along with everything else, are constantly changing. Thats just the way it happens I guess. One of the radio-show hosts here in town is trying to gin up support for a repeal of the legalization, but, that's hardly a good option in my opinion. However, kinda funny, and unfortunately, I don't have the picture on this computer, during the floods in 2013, all the big signs over the highways coming out of Wyoming said "ALL ROADS TO COLORADO CLOSED! TURN AROUND!"

OOOOOOOH I gotcha, Texasranger! WHEW! That's a lot better then I was picturing. I was afraid you had a longhorns flag over your front porch LOL. I am curious as to how volunteer trees can get a person kicked off a garden website (if it had anything to do with yanking them out of the ground at every opportunity, I better keep my mouth shut...). And yes, Ponca City, when I would go with grandma to Oklahoma, she would always spend an evening at the casino there (at least I think it was in Ponca City, it's been quite a while since I've been down there).

I liked Mesa Verde and would love to go back and visit the Garden of the Gods and the Great Sand Dunes. I'd like a trip there through the Oklahoma panhandle so we could go through Black Mesa, preferably when a storm is coming through to take pictures. My preference is for desert and grasslands, guess I'm a born flatlander but my husband is the same. We both love New Mexico and miles of open land with a big sky.

I'm about as far from that image you conjured as a person can get, I'm one of those artist types and a real bad ass Texas Ranger would most likely frown on me as having an attitude problem.

The casino you are thinking of is probably the one by Tonkawa which is directly west of Ponca.

Nah, I don't want to rip out every tree I see, I just resent the line of cruddy looking & neglected property line invasive and volunteered Hackberry trees next door that shade (steal my sun to be precise) my little urban prairie all along the west and the empire state building sized littering, hovering, oppressive Pin Oak giant that the other neighbors considerately planted a few feet east of our driveway. Pin Oak leaves and cactus is a lot of fun all winter long until spring and the zillions of acorns staining the car, stopping up the scupper boxes where the water is supposed to drain off on the flat roof which need to be de-oak-leaved and endless piles of more leaves filling up the driveway are nice too as are a trillion x 10 Hackberry seedlings that come up in my yard. I would love to see lightening hit them all and destroy the problem in one stroke. Yea, I'm a bad person, an evil tree hater or so I've been told.

I appreciate the flat lands, and even tried unsuccessfully to get my wife to move to the eastern plains of Colorado. She and her family all come from Leadville, which at over 10,000ft is the highest town in the U.S. I told her it's awfully hard to grow tomatoes in a season that has 50% chance of zero frost-free days, not to mention the only jobs up there are at the molybdenum (or, as the old timers call it "Molly be damned") mine. No thanks.

HAHA, I meant Longhorns as in the University of Texas lol. Sorry, I'm a college football guy (though, of course I have to cheer for the Broncos on Sundays).

Yes, that's the one I'm thinking of, like I said, it's been probably a decade at least since I've been down that way.

I don't want to rip them all out, just darn aspen suckers that shoot up all over the place and every single cottonwood tree within a 20 mile radius. Yes, I feel your pain with the oak, only, instead of acorns I get cotton, sticks, sappy little pods, and leaves that I'm almost certain break down slower than plastic.

The idea of zero frost free days sounds like a top ten worst nightmare situation. Maybe skiers love it? Definitely not gardeners.

Here we complain about the long dry summers & heat because in Oklahoma it is mandatory to complain about weather, last night we got hail and tornadoes--the violent season has just begun-- but I'll let you in on something, secretly we are proud of our extreme weather because we think it makes us tough. People who move here are a different matter, one guy who moved here from the East told me we have two seasons here: Summer and Not Summer. Gardening is very challenging here, even native plant gardening. The wind blew our gas grill top off last night and the neighbors siding into the yards across the street.

I seem to be one of the few people in this state not fanatically into football so yea, the meaning of that flew right over my head, duh. After the Perennials Forum debacle I figured people wouldn't be so ready to kick a Texas Ranger or something brilliant along that train of thought.

I was in New Mexico one time when it was snowing cotton, the air was really thick with it and surreal looking. We were both green with envy and wished a lot of those trees were growing around here too (just kidding). Interesting about the Aspen suckers, I always thought of them as very elegant but it makes sense when I think of those lovely thickets I saw out there.