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Anybody been to Tarbin Gardens?

Tarbin Gardens is a public English garden (apparently the owners either are English or lived in England) in Franklin, NH, that charges an $8.50 entrance fee. It's a little over an hour from my house. Before I take my rare "free" time to investigate, though I'd ask if anybody has ever been to the gardens before, and what his/her thoughts are.

Tarbin Gardens

P.S. I wish their was a gender-neutral term for the thrid-person singular possessive. What a pain to have to use "his/her." What about something like "hyaws" as a start? "I'd like to know hyaws thoughts." "Please tread lightly around hyaw." I like it better than his/her or him/her.

Comments (6)

  • Marie Tulin
    13 years ago

    PS response: In this case, you could simply ask "has anyone been there? What was your experience?" In this case using the passive voice set you up for gender-contrivance!
    Trust me, the challenge in general conversation is simple compared to theology. God was called he for a couple thousand years, even mistranslated from gender neutral to male. Try making theological conversation equally inclusive....no one is happy or comfortable. (personally, I think it is worth the effort in every situation)and I think it is cool you even commented on it!

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    13 years ago

    I haven't been there, but I'm only about 20 minutes from Franklin, so if you decide to go, give me a shout. We could include with it a visit to Emma's Perennials in Hill, about another 20 minutes. (I'll be working out of state on & off all summer, but if I'm around I'd be interested in going. )

    They had a bunch of workshops last summer - are they doing that again?

  • deanna in ME Barely zone 6a, more like 5b
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Nhbabs, I'll let you know if I decide to go. I'd like to talk to somebody who has been there before I do, though.

    Maybe I should learn how to use "their" and "there" correctly before I worry about the other grammar holes, huh? Now, that's a thought! One of my biggest pet peeves and yet there it is, by my own hand. Nothing like some good humility to start your week!

  • bill_ri_z6b
    13 years ago

    Deanna,

    Just by way of conversation, the default possesive pronoun for third person singular is "his", unless you are addressing an entirely female group, when you may use "her". Today, grammar is so often messed up that I hear things like the following all the time:

    "Does everyone have their book?"
    instead of
    "Does everyone have his book?"
    and
    "Did anyone lose their pencil?"
    instead of
    "Did anyone lose his pencil?"

    This is even on TV and in movies and on the radio. It's so often used that it's becoming accepted.

    And you're right to question the use of "there", "their" and "they're". Also the same for "your" and "you're".

    I have a few pet peeves but it seems nobody cares anyway so it would be a losing battle.

    Oh and for the record, it should be "I wish there were a gender-neutral term for the third person singular possessive."

    God I feel like an English teacher! My comments are only made because you were discussing grammar and certainly not intended to be anything more. After all I ain't no expurt! LOL!

  • deanna in ME Barely zone 6a, more like 5b
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    I know "his" is the traditional default, but I always feel silly addressing a group made mostly of women, or even partly of women, as "his." It's the traditionally correct term, but it's not the comfortable term, for some reason. Maybe it's not comfortable because we are hearing the incorrect use of "their" everywhere, so a gender-specific term sounds weird.

    And, why would you use "were" instead of "was?" It sounds acceptable, but since I'm referring to a singular noun (term) it seems like the verb should be singular as well. I could say, "I wish there were terms," or "I was there was a term."

    Taint it nice ter talk to the educated folk?

  • bill_ri_z6b
    13 years ago

    Traditionally "were" is the singular subjunctive form of "to be" (as in the song "If I were a rich man.....") and is still correct but a more modern trend is to use "was" and it's becoming accepted. After all, language rules change with usage over time. I just hate to see all the rules abandoned at once. Then we'd have a lot of problems with communication. As it is English is fast becoming the minority language in our country. And what about the overuse of some words and phrases? "That's awesome, dude!" Heard that a few times, haven't we? English has more words than almost any other language but people use the same ones over and over. Maybe the reason we like gardening is because plants don't say anything!