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Cleaning soil

Posted by
Belula
(peediddydoo@yahoo.com) on
Sat, Apr 29, 06 at 11:49

My cats have been pooping in an area where I've planned to put veggies. I know Jerry Baker recommends using mouthwash to disinfect soil--does anyone know if this is effective for fecal pathogens...or does anyone have any others suggestions?


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  • Posted by lindac Iowa Z 5/4 (My Page) on
    Sat, Apr 29, 06 at 11:58

If ylu can keep the cats out.....the natural decomposition should take care of it. I would however wear rubber gloves when working the soil for a month or so just in case your cats weren't the only ones using that spot. I trust your cats are healthy and don't have worms etc....but feral cats may not be.
Linda C


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Cats rarely pose any health problems for humans. The key concern, which is usually blown out of any sensible proportion, is toxoplasmosis.

Healthy adults can have toxoplasmosis and experience mild flu like symptoms that go away without treatment in a few days.

The concern that folks panic over is for pregnant women. The risk is small, but toxoplasmosis can infect the unborn and do more damage than it would with an adult.

OK, so what can you do about the soil assuming the cysts are in it? Nothing.

If cats are going to continue to use the garden even if you could kill the cysts there would always be the risk of their being reintroduced. Additionally, we have no control over the wild creatures that consider our garden litterboxes like rabbits, squirrels, rats, mice, chipmunks, birds and all the other beasties out there. Every one of these wild creatures is capable of carrying pathogens which can cause problems for humans.

There is always the risk of soil born pathogens in our soil no matter how careful we are, no matter how healthy the soil is, regardless of whether cats poop in them.

So, evaluate the threat and respond accordingly. If you are pregnant or have a compromised immune system or simply like to play it extra safe then don't put your hands in the dirt, wear gloves. Be mindful to not put your hands to your face until you have washed up after being in the garden. Use a mulch to shield the edible plants from soil splashes that could place pathogens onto the plant part you are about to eat. Wash all garden produce well before consuming it.

Personally I don't do any of these things, I rather enjoy my hands in the dirt and adore nibbling while in the garden, but everyone has different opinions and different perceptions of the risks involved and different thresholds for what they consider acceptable risks.


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Thanks for the responses. It does seem a bit illogical, considering pets probably defecate in any garden they can get their paws on, and I've never heard of anyone getting sick. But the warnings I read were so strong. Good to know I can relax about it.


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I am planting vegetables in a garden which used to be a flower garden in the back yard and there is wood chips mixed into the soil will this effect the growth of my vegetables? Should i clean them out?


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Regular wood chips shouldn't cause a problem because they will eventually decay but I wouldn't plant veggies in pressure treated or painted wood chips...

Rita


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  • Posted by lindac Iowa Z 5/4 (My Page) on
    Sat, Apr 29, 06 at 22:23

Wood chips, as they decay will capture some of the nitrogen from the soil....but they will release it in later years when they further decompose, leading eventually to an equilibrium.
The first year of using wood chips in the soil, I would add a little extra mitrogen rich fertilizer....not too much now!! Remember more plants are harmed by too much fertilizer than not enough!
Linda C


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O, come on guys! Isn't anyone going to comment on the use of mouthwash (!!!!!!) to sterilize soil?


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Not today, Jerry!! Too busy spraying beer on everything!
Linda C


 
 

 

 


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