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| Hello,
Could anyone direct me to a site where I could confirm this? I have always heard this is true, but would like to verify. thanks,
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| I can't answer your question, Ellen, but I hope it's not true. I know somebody who, thanks to the list of groundhog delights posted in the earlier thread on the beasts, trapped 5 in 3 days and still has one to go before his property is free of the things - until the next time. |
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| From the Fish and Wildlife website: "Wildlife Damage Control I interpret that to mean as long as you don't shoot them and your borough/township has no regs against trapping, you're o.k. |
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- Posted by daniellalell (My Page) on Fri, Jul 6, 07 at 22:56
| you can trap them but it is illegal to relocate them. catch 22 right? lol. if you do wanna relocate make sure its at least 5 miles from your house, that way they cant find their way back, otherwise, believe me they will. it's either that or poison them, but i think thats cruel. |
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| excerpt from State of New Jersey - POLICY ON THE RELOCATION OF WILDLIFE "Page 3 of 5 |
Here is a link that might be useful: State of New Jersey - POLICY ON THE RELOCATION OF WILDLIFE
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| Trapping is sadistic, and it is ridiculous to think you can free your property of groundhogs. Hello...isn't there always one to take its place? I know someone who has been trapping squirrels for years. LOL. Sure if that is how you get your jollies. Don't imagine you are keeping your property critter-free. Neither imagine it is not cruel, since no matter where you 'relocate' them to, they will try to return to their territory. Only mechanical devices work: or If the area to protect is small, woodchucks can be excluded using a 4-foot high hardware cloth fence with a mesh size smaller than 2 by 2 inches. Do not use chicken wire, as it will rust and weaken quickly. To prevent digging, bury the bottom of the fence 10–12 inches below ground or bend the lower 12 inches of the fence outward in an L shape about 1–2 inches below ground. The height of the fence above ground should be at least 3 feet. To prevent woodchucks from scaling the fence, you can add an electrified wire 4–5 inches off the ground and 4–5 inches from the outside of the fence. Bend the top 15 inches of the fence out at a 45-degree angle for extra protection from climbing chucks. Be sure to reinforce the gate as well so that woodchucks cannot dig under it. In my cosmology people who trap animals will return as animals and die slowly in a cage in the sun and temperature of 90 degrees and be eaten by ants. With full consciousness. Here is the NJHumane Society: ---ellen |
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| Oh, come on, Ellen, get real. Do you run a business the inventory of which is being devoured by the groundhog colony under the storage shed? Just how is one to handle that problem? There were groundhogs here on my property when I first moved in. My dog killed them all and none have returned in 5 years. |
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- Posted by joiseygardener (My Page) on Sat, Jul 7, 07 at 9:19
| >>>> ellenr Could anyone direct me to a site where I could confirm this? I have always heard this is true, but would like to verify. You had me fooled ellen, I thought you were inquiring so you could catch them not turn in your neighbor. You’ll get no sympathy from me. >>>Trapping is sadistic, Says you >>> and it is ridiculous to think you can free your property of groundhogs. Works pretty good for me. I’d rather battle a couple than a couple of dozen >>> Hello...isn't there always one to take its place? Better one or 2 than a dozen >>>I know someone who has been trapping squirrels for years. I’ve trapped bushy tailed rats for 5 years now. I won’t tell you how many, I wouldn’t want to give you a coronary so early on a Sat morning, emergency rooms are full on the weekends, but YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED. It’s a never ending battle, I have to do the same thing every year, like planting the flowers, cutting the lawn, tilling the garden, planting the garden, weeding the garden, bagging the leaves, removing the varmints, get the picture? All part of the never-ending list of tasks. >>>LOL. What I makes me LOL is people who spend all that time and money taking care of their flower beds, veggie gardens and lawns only to see it destroyed day after day after day. Nature had a plan for pests like squirrels and groundhogs. Predators! Civilization has squeezed out those predators, which results in a squirrel explosion. I’ve taken over where Nature left off. >>>Sure if that is how you get your jollies. You think I like paying $3 a gallon for gas? >>> Don't imagine you are keeping your property critter-free. Pretty close. We use to have waves of 6 – 7 squirrels at a time grazing multiple times a day, on everything they could find, rummaging through flower pots/beds, digging up the shallots, poking holes in tomatoes, digging holes all over the lawn etc, etc. etc. To give you an example, I NOW have 4 pots of beautiful gerbera daisies on the front steps, planted from seeds. Took me 12 weeks of caring, watching, watering and fertilizing. I HAD some squirrels that took a liking to the flower heads, they would wait till the next flower stalk came up and then poof, it was gone. Now the squirrels are GONE, I actually get lots of flowers now, never would have happened if I didn’t trap. My neighbors absolutely love me; their flower bulbs actually come up now. >>>> since no matter where you 'relocate' them to, they will try to return to their territory. 3-4 miles is all you need, I know cause in the beginning, I use to put a little shot of latex paint on their tail to verify they weren’t returning. I never did see a white spotted bushy tailed rat. >>>> Visual stimuli like strobe lights, mylar tape, scarecrows, and scare-eye balloons. For only so long, they quickly become accustomed to them. Witness the groundhogs feeding just feet from the curb along the side of many of New Jersey’s busiest highways. Didn’t take long to realize the cars wouldn’t hurt them. >>> and loud noises. My neighbors would just love that. >>>In my cosmology people who trap animals will return as animals and die slowly in a cage in the sun and temperature of 90 degrees and be eaten by ants. With full consciousness. Thanks for the good laugh, I gotta save that one and pass it around. I'll leave you with this, A squirrel a day keeps the critters away. |
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- Posted by dirtboysdad (My Page) on Sat, Jul 7, 07 at 10:46
| Agree totally with Joiseygardener - no sympathy and now a total lack of respect for the integrity of your posts. |
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- Posted by joiseygardener (My Page) on Sat, Jul 7, 07 at 14:04
| Ellen, thought you would get a kick out of this |
Here is a link that might be useful: Mission Impossible
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