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Posted by shadow_Z3 z3 MB (My Page) on Tue, Apr 12, 05 at 22:37
I heard on this forum that this rose can grow to 7 ft tall.
Well, I would like to get this rose, but now am not sure where to plant it. All the literature I have read so far has said that it only grows 2-2 1/2 ft tall. If there is anyone out there in zone 3 that is growing this rose, can you let me know what it's doing? I would appreciate it.
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RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| Though I know you want to hear from someone who actually grows this rose, I just thought I would mention that it’s my understanding that this was a smaller rose, as are most of the roses in the Parkland series. The Cdn Rose Society site says 0.5 metre high (maybe 1.5 to 2 feet?) Maybe in a very mild climate it could hit 7 feet? (less winter damage). I know with alot of my morden roses, they die back to approximate a foot to six inches above ground level over winter. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Canadian Rose Society
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| I have seen this rose growing at the Montreal Botanical Garden (which is Canadian Zone 5) and it is only 2 or 3 feet tall. I can't imagine that it would grow taller in a colder zone. Malcolm |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| I have had this rose for 3 years and it is 6 feet tall and am training it on a trellis for more blooms. I have seen some sites claim this is a small rose but am wondering if it is being mixed up with Habitat for Humanity which is smaller and not red. Helpmefind.com says Hope gets 5 feet. Mine is tall and narrow with beautiful dark red blooms. I have also read that this is an everbloomer which mine is not, but it only gets 5 hours of sun. Mine gets about 2 to 3 flushes a season. It was totally tip hardy after this winter without any winter protection and is leafing out quite well. I also planted another one last summer which is 3 feet tall but got blackspot last year, my older one was completely disease free. I like this rose alot but it doesn't have any fragrance. Hope this helps. |
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| I have 2 of these roses and are one of my favorites. I had to cut mine back, heaven knows how tall it would be if I didn't. I think they made a mistake about the height of this rose. I don't give it any protection in the winter just snow cover. |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| Thanks everyone for your input! I really appreciate it. I guess I will plant it close to something where it can climb if need be! I also have read where you are supposed to cut back shrub roses to make them fill out. I'm wondering if maybe the people who have the tall canes have not cut them back and that it why there are a few who have such tall canes and some who have shorter canes? Could this be the reason? Please advise. Thanks for all your help. |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| I have had this one for many years and do quite like the rich dark blood red flowers in which are very long lasting! In my zone 3 this one dies down to within a few inches of the ground, but has always come through the winter no matter how cold or how little snow protection there is. This is a narrow grower that indeed will tend throw some long shoots. |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| Mine gets around 4 feet over the summer but dies back to less then six inches. My Hope is a one cane wonder, its around 5 years old. |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| I just bought the Hope for Humanity Rose a few weeks ago at Jeffrey's Nursery in Portage, Man. Wow, has it grown since. It must be 20" tall already, doubled in height, with a few buds on it now too. Question...if it is still dipping below 0C at night should I just keep it in the greenhouse or would it be okay outside planted in the perennial beds already? |
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| We live in Bismarck, North Dakota. We planted a Hope in 2005. At this point, going into its third year, the canes are 9 feet high (we have not cut back or pruned at all....yet). We have had little or no die back on any but the newest canes before freeze-up. At one point last summer (2007), we counted over 100 blossoms at one time. We are amazed and totally delighted with this rose. |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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Hi
I live in Winnipeg and have had "Hope* for five years. This year it died back to about half a foot, but many years it has lots of live wood. Mine gets over 5 feet tall. Lots of blooms all summer. |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| Hi I'm in zone 2b. I sit on a town beautification committee and with some flower nursery professional advice we've planted 3 Hope for Humanity roses in a community flower bed. I am new at roses and reading some of the postings on how tall this rose can grow makes me nervous. Will I have to support this rose or will it bush out. If it needs support what do I use. I am a volunteer gardener and most of my experience is with perrenials. |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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Hi
I have this rose planted in full sun and it has never gotten over the 3' height. i do have to trim back a small amount of winter kill but never any more than 6".
As for support, I wouldn't think you wold need it as mine in Zone 3 has never gotten very tall.
Kathy |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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Hi everyone! I couldn'help comment on this string about the Hope for Humanity rose.
I am a horticulturalist and rose finatic for about 30 years now. When roses are registered they are given what the hybridizers information on growth, blooms etc. have experienced. May I add that this rose was bred by Agriculture Canada and was grown on it's own roots, not bud grafted. There, the registered description for this is as follows:
Introduced in 1995 for the anniversary of the Canadian Red Cross Society. Hope for Humanity is a low-growing, ever blooming roses with a growth habit of .5 miters (20")high and .6 miters (22")in width.
Flowers born in small trusses of 4-5 blooms each. The blooms are of double,deep blood red,cup shaped and are 8cm.(3.10")in diameter.
(I have grown this rose since it was introduced and this is what it actually does.)
NOTE:
Bud grafted roses do grow much more larger and more vigorous than own root roses do BUT I seriously doubt that this rose even bud grafted will grow 6'-7' tall. You have been given the wrong rose!
Also, it does die back quite substancally in zones below 5 if not given sufficient snow cover or mounding. (it usually will die back to where ever the protection stops.
The colour of this rose is very unique and very, deep blood red, actually stunning. Blooms are small but in clusters and it will rebloom quite regularly if given lots of sun and food to grow with.
Hope this helps in the delima you've stated.
Happy Dreaming of Gardening. spring is on it's way........... |
Here is a link that might be useful: Article on Own root Roses VS Bud Grafted
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| I have to add my "two cents" about this rose. It is lovely, grows to about 5 ft. here, doesn't bloom continually. The blooms are in trusses of five, or six blooms. It puts out a flush of blooms several times during the summer. Mine does have some die-back due to our winters. Cut off the old canes and it will go again.And cut off the old blooms. It is a slender grower. I have never covered mine for winter as we ususlly have lots of snow. It is a beautiful deep bright red and I have won two Grand Champions with it at our Flower and Garden Show each August. Mine gets full sun. I only wish we could get more roses from Morden's in Manitoba. |
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| Just came across this website and would like to add to the discussion on this Hope for Humanity rose. I bought 6 of them 2 years ago and have had great luck with them. They do get to be about 4-5 feet tall in my zone 4, sunny Wisconsin garden. Beautiful deep red clusters of blooms on plants that stand tall and need no staking. I don't mulch, only have snow cover, and I cut them way back early in the spring. This is the 3rd season and they are coming back nicely. Love this rose plant. |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| As the original poster of this question,(different user name now however) I have found the replies all very interesting. Unless quite a number of us have incorrect tags on our plants, we all have "Hopes", which can grow quite high. Tall or short, beautiful rose! Thanks all:) |
RE: Hope for Humanity Rose
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| In 2009 we planted the Hope for Humanity rose and after reading comments from others, had few expectations. Our "Hope" has now survived two winters in Ottawa, Canada including rain, freezing rain, mountains of snow, rabbits and -30 celcius temperatures and appears to have come through it all with flying colours. Ours is a prolific climber with masses of blood red roses that bloom constantly throughout the season. I had been looking for a true red climber and this one is a winner. |
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