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Posted by beaver007 5B NE (My Page) on Sun, Dec 17, 06 at 1:16
Does any one know of any laws that would prevent me from mailing plants from Nebraska to Pahrump Nevada?
My inlaws live there and in the spring I would like to dig up some of my bananas and palms and mail them to the inlaws but I dont know if Nevada has any laws against plants coming in from another state.
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| Contact the local Nevada Department of Agriculture. When they stop laughing about the idea of growing palms and bananas in Nevada (at least Northern Nevada), they will give you the correct information. Don't be daunted. I'm still happilly murdering palms and bananas here in Sparks. Bamboo survives. Lisa |
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Thanks Lisa, The thought of contacting the Dept of Ag never crossed my mind.
This might P*%% off some people of this forum but you did notice the state I live in did'nt you, (I can grow em here outside all year long) Growing Bananas and Palms is not not that hard to do as long you get the kind that are more suited to your climate or can be dug up every year.(I'm too lazy to dig things up every year)
I dont have any type of degree in horticulture I started out as the dont tell me I cant kind of guy and went even crazyier from their. And then my life got easier when I found the Naners and palms sections of this forum, Come on up and ask some questions We'll have a plantation growing in your yard before you know it.
Thanks again I will check the Dept of Ag thing out.
Oh hey bamboo when the wife and I were in Pahrump I saw something that I thought was Bamboo but the person I asked said it was just Cain. Would what they called Cain be actually bamboo? Cause bamboo is the next plant I want to tackle this spring.
Thanks again.................. |
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Beaver
I always knew depending on the the type of palm, you can grow them in zone 8 when my parents lived in the SF Bay Area. But I just recently found out just how cold tolerant some banana varieties are. I, too am thinking of planting one at my parents house in N. Las Vegas. Oh, I have been to Lincoln Neb. once (Univ of Neb). I even purchased some of the local wines there. So I know that state has a lot of agriculture. But yes, most people would laugh at the thought of growing palms and bananas there. I am linking one of the more interesting fruit and palm tree websites. They not only explain how they grow their nursery plants, how cold tolerant their bananas are, etc. But, LOL, they have sexy models - check out the Persimmon lady with the low cut outfit. There are also shirtless men for the women. What will they think of next? |
Here is a link that might be useful: Fruit and Palm tree supplier in Florida
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| I learned from experience that what grows in Nebraska (I lived about 60 miles South of Lincoln, in Kansas) won't necessarily grow in Nevada, or vice-versa. There's no harm in trying, though. I have a bamboo that is surviving the winter--Fargesia 'Green Panda', and I've killed countless not-so-hardy palms and bananas. Part of the trouble with plants that *should* survive the winter in this zone if they survive in Nebraska (e.g. Cannas) is that they survive winter just fine, then rot out when spring comes and the nights are still too cold (although not freezing) to allow them to fully break dormancy. Nebraska has a longer, warmer growing season. What I do now with my Cannas is dig them in fall after a killing frost or two, drag them inside for the winter and then pot them up in February or March inside and let them get a head start on breaking dormancy. Seems to do the trick. Lisa |
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Cannas are cousins to the banana and ginger, Canna Flaccida is native to the south eastern U.S. and to the Antilles, Canna Indica is native to tropical central and south America, Both have been hybridized and backcrossed since the 18th century forming the base of cannas as we know them today, Which today there are hundreds of named cultivars in which experts now lump them all together as Canna x Generalis for ease. USDA suggest zones 8-12.
With all that in mind the canna is really a tropical or subtropical plant and for most of us in the United States and other countries we should really dig them up for the cooler part of the growing season.
As for Nebraska having a longer and warmer growing season I did some research and your right but a huge difference is your average lows are not that of ours in which you dont hit and hold -f temperatures as often and for as long as we do, I dont know about your snow fall but we dont seem to have any of that for the last couple of years.(thats scary) The palms I grow are mainly Trachycarpus Fortunei (Adding a few more species this spring) and the bananas are mainly Musa Basjoo and M sikkimensis.
You should protect them both in the colder months but thats not hard to do, Their are more varities of cold hardy palms and bananas out there that would do great in your area I figured I bored you enough to list them all.
Hop up to the bananas and palms forums those people will answer any question you may have and they wont get mad at you for asking a question that has been answered before they are a real nice bunch of people, No sense in waisting time and money replacing plants they will hook you up with what you need for your area.
sorry that was long winded and yes in trying to keep it short I left alot of holes for arguments I am just pointing out that with a little research you can have a tropical garden in some not so tropical places. Colorado and Utah are a prime example they have a couple of clubs that grow some awesome tropicals outside.
Sorry I will nock off with the babbling.
Enjoy your weekend and have a safe New years. |
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| Beaver, I agree with everything you said. Eventually I'll find the right spot for bananas and palms here. I keep tryin'... :-) Lisa |
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| Pahrump has a similar climate to Vegas-except it does get a little colder in the winter...January and February are the coldest in my experience! I live in northwest Vegas and am constantly amazed at how variable climate can be throughout the Las Vegas valley! The strip is usually 5-15 degrees warmer than nw Vegas on any given day! I am thinking about trying some bananas near my pool in a shaded corner of my yard! I know that Mexican Fan Palm, Queen Palm, California Fan Palm, Canary Island Palm, and Mediterranean Fan Palm are all very popular choices in Vegas! If you do try the Windmill Palm(trachycarpus fortunei) plant it in partial to full shade if you want a lush crown...otherwise the desert sun and heat keeps the leaves from looking their best! Confederate/Star Jasmine does exceptionally well against walls and fences here! Gardenias will do okay but they will require acidifying soil amendments, and shade! I have 4 of them surrounding my air conditioners near my patio! Love their fragrant flowers:) Our soils are very alkaline so be sure to use something like Miracle Grow acid fertilizer! For the heat and sun, try something like Mexican Bird of Paradise, Purple Fountain Grass, Rosemary, Chaste bush/tree, oleander, pampas grass,etc... I was surprised to find out that it can go 9 months without a trace of rain here! It would be fun to keep in touch to see how your desert gardening is going:) Donny |
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| I am planning to move to Las Vegas in a month or so. I just got into growing bananas. So, let's keep trying. I know that we can find a way to grow them there. Perhaps we will have to find the right hybrid to survive the dry air and heat. |
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