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Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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Posted by zenshack 8 (My Page) on Mon, Feb 1, 10 at 13:34
| Hi there,
I want to plant a privacy hedge this spring and was originally planning on using Portuguese Laurel, however I have decided not to use this plant because of it's invasiveness.
After reading a few forum threads it seems that Pacific Wax Myrtle might be the shrub for me.
Will this plant thrive in the Vancouver BC climate with it's native origin being California/ Oregon? I do not live right on the water but a mile or so inland and a few hundred yards above sea level, enough so that it might be a couple degrees colder in my yard than on the shore in the winter.
Also does anyone know how readily available this plant is in my local gardening stores/ nurseries?
If planted close to a fence (2-3ft) will it pose a danger to damaging the fence in the long term like Laurel?
Is it possible to grow Pacific Wax Myrtle over 8ft tall while keeping to around 3-4ft wide?
Thanks |
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RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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Wax Myrtle is semi deciduous and an iffy year round screen. Portugal laurel looks great covered in thick foliage after a 3F year low 2 winters in year 8 and 9 in the last decade. Portugal laural has been an assett for me. Never a baby. Looks thick and green. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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| I disagree. Pacific wax myrtles are fully evergreen, hardy to 0F, make a great natural privacy screen, attract wildlife and are well-suited to a modified Mediterranean climate such as much of the west coast enjoys (it is found naturally in various locations on Vancouver Island). It is also quite drought tolerant once established and since a native plant, poses no issues with invasive seeding such as both Portuguese and English laurel are prone to do. Plus it is a nitrogen fixer and tolerates poor soils but not poor drainage. This can get to be a good sized shrub (10-15' tall, 5-8' wide) so site/space accordingly. While it can be sheared as a hedge, it has a better look if allowed to grow naturally. Because it has a smaller leaf and a lacier texture than do laurels, it shouldn't pose a problem with a fence. Wax myrtles are an excellent choice for a low maintenance privacy screen/hedge. I use them often in landscape designs for just this purpose. The single specimen in my own garden is tall (8'+), lush and well covered with glossy evergreen foliage and never blinked at the very low temps we experienced in early December. And it's growing in a lot more shade than it would prefer but still looks great. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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| Thanks for the replies. At the moment the biggest issue with the PW Myrtle for me might be trying to find someone who sells it. I have called two shrub/tree sellers near me, one had never heard of it?! And the other knew of it but had never carried it (They are part of a big garden center chain). Their buyer even checked the order list from an Oregon nursery they dealt with and it wasn't available for order. Of course their are lots of other nurseries that I can call in the surrounding area but things don't look promising at the moment. So barring that my remaining choices seem to be the Portuguese Laurel or more Emerald Cedars which I already have a row of. The issue is a combination of space (width), money and wanting to achieve privacy as soon as possible. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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| As a native plant and rather ornamental one at that (not all natives are) as well as being very adaptable, wax myrtles are in high demand for various large native planting projects. Here, agencies like the DOT and DNR use them in quantity for various situations, not to mention landscapers working on various native reforestation/revegetation projects. They are always in short supply unless you can access a nursery/grower that propagates their own stock. I can say we sell them by the truckload at my nursery but that's not going to help you much :-) I'd keep looking if I were you - the myrtles are a much better choice than the other two. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Tue, Feb 2, 10 at 14:18
| Muddydogs is probably talking about Myrica pensylvanica. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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| Portugal laurel, although very dense and green year-round, gets huge. If there is a developed property on the other side of the fence, 2-3 feet is too close, or the neighbor will have to like to pull seedlings on their side, unless their ground is hard-surface. I had one for about ten years; kept it to 16 feet tall through repeated toppings, and tried to pick most of the berry clusters off while still green. It was 4 feet from a fence and still went way over. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Tue, Feb 2, 10 at 23:37
| A Portugal laurel I measured during 1992 at the Foster Golf Links in Tukwila was 45' tall with a trunk 12'6" around, and an average crown spread of 51'. It was part of two rows of several trees each, that formed a sort of allee where golfers where entering the course. Probably a remnant of an old nursery. When I drove by there a year or so ago it looked like the planting had been removed. A Pacific wax-myrtle at Seattle Pacific University was 30' tall, with an average crown spread of 30' 4-5 years ago. If you use this species you can expect to be doing some pruning of it as well. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Fri, Feb 5, 10 at 19:13
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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| In England, Beech Hedges (Fagus sylvatica) are very popular, bright green in the spring, dark green in summer and unusual for a hedge, the dead golden leaves, remain on the hedge during fall & winter, only making way for the springs new growth. I have yet to spot a Beech hedge in Vancouver BC, does anyone know of one? Daniel Gardens by Twig www.gardensbytwig.com |
Here is a link that might be useful: Gardens by Twig
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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| I disagree with the statement: "...since a native plant, poses no issues with invasive seeding such as both Portuguese and English laurel are prone to do." We planted several Pacific Wax Myrtles in a native garden many years ago and now have wax myrtle seedling popping up every where. So they can become a problem in other peoples flower beds. Both of the evergreen cherries are shade tolerant, the English more so than the Portuguese, so they are problems in wood lots that the wax myrtle wouldn't be. I like wax myrtle more so than the two evergreen cherries because it is native and has smaller leaves. But it has its problems. The wood is brittle breaking under heavy snow loads and with Vancouver B.C being at the mouth of the Frazier River with Artic flows coming down that valley, you get lot more snow than on Vancouver Island. The fall/winter of '10/11 caused a lot of damage to our myrtle with leaf kills, even whole stems, and the snow flattened the bushes. That spring we had to go in an remove all the broken and dead branches. Something that doesn't happen with the two cherries. Portuguese Cherry doesn't get as big as the English Cherry. Its leaves are not that much bigger than the myrtle's. I also noticed that it doesn't have any where near the invasive seedlings that the English cherry has. It might also be found at local nurseries more so than myrtle. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Thu, Jan 26, 12 at 21:41
| Lots of Portugal laurel seedlings are present in local wooded places now and as I noted above it has been known more than 50' across in this area. I do agree that the wax myrtle is not such an everyman of a plant suitable for wide use as is being made out here, being confined in the north to extreme outer coastal locations, going inland much only much farther south. I have seen it with discoloring of the foliage which appeared to be due to cold exposure and it often has a leaning, flopping habit even in presumably prime habitat where it is abundant and tall-growing, such as the Darlingtonia Wayside site near Florence. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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Is wax myrtle deer resistent? Also, twig, there was a beech hedge planted at a home near me on Vancouver Island 20 years ago, or so. I didn't like the look of the leaves staying on all winter, but that's a personal choice. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Sat, Jan 28, 12 at 12:50
| I don't remember seeing damage, but deer often just nibble the very tips of things. And kinds of plants new to a site may be heavily sampled after planting, even when native to the region and mostly ignored on other sites where they already occur in some numbers. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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| I just spent this week pruning, chain sawing our Pacific Wax Myrtle bushes from the inch ice built up last week. They had broken branches and split trunks. Not a pretty site. While our one Portuguese laurel showed no damage. |
RE: Growing Pacific Wax Myrtle Hedge in Vancouver BC
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Tue, Jan 31, 12 at 21:03
| There's a reason for it to hug the coast in nature - until it gets south of snow country - right there. If you think of it as a kind of evergreen, aromatic willow you are not far off. |
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