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Posted by dottyinduncan z8b coastal BC (My Page) on Tue, Mar 11, 08 at 12:40
| Rhus typhina ‘Bailtiger’. I'm thinking that this would be the best focal plant for my new bed and am wondering whether people who are growing it are pleased? I think it is deer resistant and I love the colours. |
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- Posted by bboy z8 WA USA (My Page) on
Tue, Mar 11, 08 at 14:15
| Too new for much experience. There will be lots later, it has appeared in many outlets here. Has seemed a bit pricey - 30 dollars or more for something like a 3 gallon pot - but with the oil price increases everything soon will be anyway. Try looking at threads from outside the region, there has been quite a bit of earlier discussion on this site. |
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| Last year on 'Gardening with Ciscoe', Megan was ripping out numerous suckers from this bad mannered golden sumac. She wanted it out of her garden. It would make a pretty pot plant. The plant must have a patent on it and when that expires in a decade or so it should cost less. |
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- Posted by bboy z8 WA USA (My Page) on
Thu, Mar 13, 08 at 12:47
| All sumacs sucker, but many older green cutleaf staghorn sumac here aren't surrounded by their own forest - and also have a lower, broader habit than the typical green plant without cut leaves. Maybe she did some digging around it beforehand and stimulated it to take off, or there was some other non-universal circumstance. Other suckerous kinds of trees and shrubs may also go crazy or sit quietly for years. Being a yellow foliage form the 'Bailtiger' should have less horsepower - and is of course being depicted as short-growing etc. as like other new plants whose history begins with a commercial source what background information is available is largely promotional in nature. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Staghorn sumac plant named 'bailtiger'
RE: Anyone growing Tiger Eye Sumac?
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| I planted a tiger eye last year in late summer. It did pretty well but was somewhat battered by the wind. So far this spring I have yet to see any buds. Does anyone know when these plants typically bloom.....late spring/early summmer??? |
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| I've had this Sumac entering it's third year for me and it's been well behaved with not a single sucker so far (I also don't overly amend my soil). It's quite late to leaf out so be patient. The texture and the golden color is outstanding! R |
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| I wish I had more room. I'd plant it in a heartbeat if I did. I don't have room for all the cool new ninebarks and Sambucas either. :( |
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| I had mine in a pot all last summer and finally put it in the ground in the fall. It is still there and I can see some buds but not much else. I will keep an eye on it and, I hope, will be able to give you more feedback later. |
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| I planted two Tiger Eyes late last summer, probably each at least a foot tall. Deer nibbled on both during the winter so they are shorter than last year. One is growing vigorously. Other is alive but showing very little growth. |
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| I have bought one and planted it in my new bed under a large fir. Yesterday, the irrigation men came and put in some sprinklers for the bed. Once this little bed starts to grow, I'll post pics. I like to hear the good stories about this pretty sumac. |
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| I am also thinking of planting a Tiger Eye Sumac and have been reading threads related to its suckering. I think I remember reading in a book called "Making the Most of Shade" by Larry Hodgson, that if you are worried about a plant spreading by suckers, you can plant it in a sunken pot in the ground indefinitely (forever if you put it in a large enough pot and don't care about limiting it to a certain size). I am thinking about planting a Tiger Eye Sumac in a 5 gallon nursery pot (sinking the pot into the ground) so that it won't sucker on my property. Does anyone have any opinions on whether that will work? Thanks. |
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| I can't answer your questions, but I did buy one and planted it in a new bed. Unfortunately, it attracts deer and is constantly being chewed. I am going to spray it with a deer repellent and hopefully it will do better. I like your idea of putting it in a pot -- I might relocate mine into a pretty ceramic pot above ground though. |
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| I just planted a tiger eye sumac yesterday and today a neighbour came by and told me I shouldn't have planted it so close to the house, as the roots can get into the foundation. (someone told her this). Does anyone know if the roots get really agressive? I know about the suckering but would like to know if I should worry about the roots. I love the plant and wanted it for an empty corner. Judy |
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| Humm, I have two of them, one the deer ate the first year but it grew back and they now leave it alone as it is now surrounded by two Cytisus which also got nibbled but are also now left alone (they have found other goodies). That one has not suckered. Now the second one is planted in a bed that is tended to and it is starting to sucker, I suspect because I have disturbed the roots by weeding and such. I guess I will cut them off if they become a huge problem and or remove the whole thing. So far they have not grown above all of the other foliage plants so I am leaving everything alone. As for putting it in a pot in the ground, I did that with a cool shrub bamboo once but I sunk one empty pot into the ground and put an inch of peatmoss in the bottom. Then I put the pot of bamboo into that pot. Worked great! DO NOT FORGET TO WATER THE SUNKEN PLANT HOWEVER!!!! You can always pull out your plant and check for escaping roots and rhizomes. As for planting it near the house, root/rhizome prune it every so often like you would a bamboo. Dig up what is growing beyond where you want it. I don't think this plant is that aggreassive. Maybe the species is......just don't know for sure. It's called gardening maintenence :-) |
RE: Anyone growing Tiger Eye Sumac?
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| I planted it earlier this year and so far no problem--no suckers. I guess my only complain would be that it is not as bushy as I'd like it to be. The color is hard to beat though. |
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| I planted this plant in a 10 gal pot and set it out in the flower border as a focal point. It worked...every deer in the area found it. It now resides in its pot in the fenced veggie garden where it looks good but not as stunning as in the flower border. Its now in its third year and so far, there are no suckers. |
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| I love this plant. Mine has been in the ground for about 16 months, had spectacular fall color last year, at least doubled in size this year, and shows no sign of suckers yet. |
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| We've tried growing it before but the rabbits (not the deer) gnawed it into oblivion. I'm tempted to try again-- walking past them (on sale!) at the nursery today they had amazing fall color. But I don't want to invest in something that either won't survive the winter freeze here in Minneapolis, or won't survive being foraged by rabbits. Maybe someone's got a good sucker I can dig up and plant . . . |
RE: Anyone growing Tiger Eye Sumac?
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- Posted by bboy z8 WA USA (My Page) on
Thu, Sep 18, 08 at 23:09
| Interesting that although staghorn sumac is native to Minnesota the cut-leaved version sometimes freezes back. |
RE: Anyone growing Tiger Eye Sumac?
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| I have 2 of these and they are 3 years old, about 6 feet tall now. I had a bad problem with suckering this year. I bet I clipped off at least 50 "babies" this spring, and they are sprouting up again in new places. They are growing in among other plants, making it difficult to remove them. They are beautiful, though after they have filled out in the spring and the fall colors are great. They need to be in a place that allows them to spread. I did not have this problem until this year as they have matured to their full height. I am seriously thinking about removing them in the fall after their branches have fallen off and moving them to a field where they can spread as they choose. |
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- Posted by bboy z8 WA USA (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 20, 09 at 0:29
| Put a root barrier around them, as is done with running bamboo. They are unlikely to remain 6' tall. Trees and shrubs don't grow to a predetermined height and then come to a complete halt. Every time new growth is made the specimen becomes that much taller. |
RE: Anyone growing Tiger Eye Sumac?
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| No suckers yet and it is doing very well with very little care--maybe that is the trick. |
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| I'm removing mine this year, much as it pains me to get rid of plants! I've had mine for 4+ years & this year, I'm appalled at how far they're spread! It's not suckering closer to the tress, itself..but from 6+ ft onward! I have them popping up at 18 ft away from the tree base (we measured it to see). It really breaks my heart, as I love the gorgeous colors...they go well with my threadleaf maple. I have 14 "sprouts" all in all. UGH! |
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| I am thinking that mine will have to go this year as well. Suckering is getting worse and the pretty Susie something daylily is also running amuck! Things just don't stay the same!I have places I could move the Sumac. Does anyone know how well they transplant? |
RE: Anyone growing Tiger Eye Sumac?
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| I am very interested in growing some of these plants! My plan is to sink a large lawn-sized rubber garbage can into the ground, with it's bottom cut out, or holes drilled into the sides, depending on what the root habit/depth is (still doing research. This should keep them from spreading past the container size. Also, has anyone tried varying degrees of shade with these plants? I have a lot of mature trees in my yard, and would love to have these in part shade or on the edge of my shade garden. If anyone is interested in sending me some suckers, I would be more than happy to cover shipping, do an exchange, or work out other compensation! Thanks so much! |
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