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Tulsa area gardening tips and nursery locations & sales/discounts

Posted by gardenrod 6b OK NE (My Page) on
Sun, Jan 30, 11 at 12:10

I thought I would start this thread to see if Tulsa area gardeners (mostly container or small gardens) might like a thread that focuses on Tulsa area issues such as local gardening outlets- locations, product availability, sales/discounts, experiences (good or bad), and general Zone 6B gardening questions/tips.

In researching product availability, I was surprised how many listed companies were no longer in business, and how difficult it is to find website addresses.
I will list the outlets that I have had some dealings with- I am sure that local gardeners have dealt with other outlets- it would be helpful to add locations and/or provide either pro/con experiences.
Assuming everyone knows where to locate their Walmarts, Home Depots, and Lowes, here is my list of other outlets that I am personally aware of that are in this area and are currently operational:

Atwood Ranch & Home
Broken Arrow, Ok
2351 E Kenosha
918 355 1300
www.atwoods.com
Other Locations;
*Sapulpa, Ok
806 East Taft
918 227 3262
*Sand Springs, Ok
730 E. Charles Page Blvd.
918 241 1700
*Owasso, Ok
11510 N. Garnett
918 371 8100

John Deere Landscapes
1315 108th East
Tulsa, OK
918-437-9000
www.johndeerelandscapes.com

Rancho Flores (Will reopen in February)
4516 31st
Tulsa, OK
918-743-2434

Sanders Nursery #2: Broken Arrow
20705 E. 161st St.
Broken Arrow, OK 74014
918-486-1500
www.sandersnurseryok.com
Other Locations:
*Sanders Nursery #1: Inola
13302 E. 590 Road
Inola, OK
(918) 543-2589 phone

Smith Farm & Garden
8804 41st
Tulsa, OK
918-665-3364
www.smithfarmandgarden.com

Southwood Landscape & Nursery
9025 S. Lewis
Tulsa, OK 74137
918-299-9409
www.southwoodnursery.com

Stringer Nursery
7203 E 41st St
Tulsa, OK
918-628-0296
www.stringernursery.com

Sutherlands
9503 21st
Tulsa, OK
918-627-0777
www.sutherlands.com
Other Locations
*Jenks OK
3014 W. Main
(918) 296-9580
*Bixby OK
15050 Memorial
(918) 366-2041

Ted & Debbie's Flower & Garden
3901 S Harvard Ave
Tulsa, OK
918-745-0011
www.tedanddebbiesflowers.com

Tulsa County Hydro -Organics
1928 W Albany St
Broken Arrow, OK 74012
918-259-4937

Westlake Ace Hardware
2235 E 61st St
Tulsa, OK
918-742-7309
Other Locations:
*3948 S Peoria Ave
Tulsa, OK
918-712-7376

Worleys Greenhouse & Nursery Inc
7400 Owasso Expwy
Tulsa, OK
918-272-2399
www.worleysgreenhouse.com
Other Locations:
*Claremore & Skiatook

PLEASE post a response if you find that any of the above listings are incorrect.
Ron Z


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RE: Tulsa area gardening tips and nursery locations & sales/disco

Atwoods always has a large assortment of seeds and the black plastic trays for $1.29 in the spring. These are cheaper than I can purchase them wholesale. Lowes usually has the best price on peat pots. They also carry the small bags of desert sand that I use for stratifying seeds and germination. I mix my seeds with fourth cup of sand and a fourth teaspoon of water in a small snack sized baggy. Then they are either refrigerated or set in a warm place until sprouted.

Conrads in Bixby carries a germination mix for planting seeds that I've had good success using. Conrad's is located south on Memorial to 151st street then west about 4 blocks. They also have seedlings, potatoes, onion starts, etc in the spring.

sandy


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Sandy-
Conrads is one that I overlooked, although I shop there often. Here is their info:
CONRAD FARMS
7400 E. 151st Street
Bixby, OK 74008
(918)366-8942
www.conradfarmsmarket.com
If anyone has not checked them out, they should- both for gardening products and home grown veggies. They are my backup when I need more tomatoes or cukes for canning. I also buy my pecans and watermelons there.
Thank you for the reminder.
Ron Z


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I don't mean to hijack this thread with my cynicism, but I don't think the stores you have listed care about the special needs of Tulsa.

I cannot find the Country Store that was off 11th and Memorial. I did think they were interesed in Tulsa. The Master Gardeners try to be interested in Tulsa. However the Master Gardeners spend a huge amount of time looking up information, and shielding whatever OSU experts there may be from my "unnecessary" questions.

I receive much more information here on this forum than in all the others put together.

If you ask about fertilizer, a clerk will help you find any number of products, but doesn't have a clue as to what you should use.

You can purchase pesticides everywhere, but how many will explain the use of goggles, respirators, proper gloves, and other safety measures.

Where in Tulsa can you find someone to explain to you that you do not need pesticides? I intend no disrespect to those of you who use them, but as far as Tulsa goes, the stores want to sell the stuff.

I go to one store for tomato plants because I do not have a place to start them from seed. I trusted the one store because it is nice, popular, friendly, and easy to shop in. However they sell the tomato plants that are popular. They cannot advise the customer about what is grown best here. Some tomatoes are more suceptible to bottom rot than others, but there was no caution about that. They order what the customers want, and do not seem to have an opinion about what they sell.

Everyone sells gloves, but bionic gloves are so nice. I need to purchase them online, as I do my rose clippers. The bionic gloves give wonderful support to anyone, not just those of us who are older. Men's products are not often good for me, and probably most women. Except for gloves and rose clippers, there are more and more women's products around, but I think there are far more men's products.

It was Doc at Juniper Hills Farms (closed) who told me to avoid Bradford Pear trees. He wouldn't even sell them. He said they were too brittle, and people did not know how to prune them properly. He may have been wrong, but it was good advice to me. Whenever there is a storm, those tree limbs are all over the place. Everyone else seems to sell them.

Finally, and this I hate more than anything else. How do you get rid of pesticides and paint???? There are times that you can take anything to wherever, but not paint and pesticides. If someone really cared about our city, they would allow us to return paint and pesticides for proper disposal. Since nobody will allow us to dispose of it, what do we do? What can you do? I have cans and cans of paint. I find ways to dry it out, then put it in the trash. In my opinion we drink and eat that stuff because others just pour it in the drain.

I'm sorry this is so long. I don't think any store cares about anything except making a profit and staying business. They want to sell us whatever they can get us to buy.

Sammy


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sammy, the MET has a collection date for april at the fairgrounds. i've included a link.

i too, have had some trouble finding gloves to fit my small hands. i almost wear child size's.

dody :)

Here is a link that might be useful: recycle date in tulsa


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Sammy, as a master gardener we go through OSU teachings. We are discouraged from telling anything but OSU findings.

The course we take is intense, and all university based.

Sorry you find us not very helpful. We do try.

You might try to buy your tomato and other plants at the Sand Springs Herb Festival. There are lots of knowledgeable growers there!

Dody, I have once been in line for recycling paint, and will never do that again.

I now paint my garage with left over paint. Looks mighty pretty, striped more or less, as I just use all paint up out there. Well, all except a peanut butter jar full, that I save for patch jobs.

Pesticides are easier for me, as I really don't use any, cept round up, and that is way to expensive not to use it all up. :)

When I lived in Tulsa I bought at Colebrooks, and the Tulsa Master Gardeners always have a plant sale. I still buy from them (Tulsa MG's), even so I now live in OKC. Check their website, for current info.

Moni, master gardener class of 1999 in Oklahoma County and class of 2005 in Tulsa County and proud of both!

Here is a link that might be useful: Tulsa MG's


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Oklamoni, specifically, when I had problems with woolly aphids, there was no help in Tulsa. They refused to ask the OSU agriculture department, and I don't remember if I ever got through. I asked about them on this site and many others, and finally had the trees removed.

Those aphids were terrible, and the only advice they could give me was to pour a pesticide (insecticide) around the foundation of the trees so that they leaves would absorb it, and would ultimately kill the aphids.

Had they gone to the University experts to ask my question, I would not have been disappointed. But their answer was to look up everything in books, and decide what is best.

Their suggestions for plants to grow around roses were ivy, and numerous plants that are terribly invasive.

I can ask my questions here now, and get much better answers. I also wish the Master Gardeners were more helpful. I do purchase many of their plants each year to support their plant sale, and have respect for those who work hard in the community. However, they sheltered those with more expertise from me, and I have a problem with that. I am not going to keep that a secret. I made numerous calls over a period of a couple of years, and I see no reason to keep quiet over some of the answers I received.

Realistically the master gardeners are quite well informed, and I think they are probably very helpful about issues that have to do with those who live on farms or are more into agriculture than into flowers. I understand that the training has much to offer, and that my problems are not that important.

I also understand the cost of having 4 trees removed because there were no OSU agents or experts who could be contacted.Each effort to do so sent me back to the Master Gardeners.

I have been trying to let the paint dry out, but have had problems. I do think I will try it again.

Sammy


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Sammy, I take card board boxes and cut them down to about 2 inches (sometimes you can find such at Aldi) line that with several sheets of newspaper and then pour paint in (when I don't paint in my garage...). That makes a good tray for paint to sit and dry.

I hope this helps.

Moni

PS, I would have had to look up an aphid problem.....


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Sammy-
Sadly, Juniper Hill Farms and Colebrooks have gone to the Nursery In The Sky to join Binding Stevens, Wolfe Nursery, and others. The only reason I include Wolfe Nursery was that they had great end-of-season sales, but I found I could get good advice at Binding Stevens.
Moni-
I completed the OSU Master Gardeners program in Tulsa in 1998. I (sort of) agree with Sammy that the Master Gardeners must look up answers in many cases. I found the training lacking in the vegetable gardening area, where I had years of experience - I was not very interested in sod and trees, but the training did extend my knowledge in those areas. I do believe that the OSU Fact Sheets are quite helpful for quick on-line answers.

I purchased tomatoes and garlic from the "Tomato Man" in West Tulsa, but have not been back since he died and his daughters took over. Has anyone had any luck with their plants? or at the Cherry Street Farmers Market?
I hope we can get viewers to post dates for the various herb festivals and Farmers Markets who offer plants. It seems like I'm usually already planted out by the time their offerings are available.
Ron Z


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I need to get busy with the paint. I have used throw away trays and boxes. It's time consuming, but a responsibility.

The woolly aphids are quite large, and they fly. When they come, they cover all my roses, benches and everything. They bring a special brand of lady beetles with them, but you can have too many lady beetles. The dew from the aphids is sickening. It was my hope that the Master Gardeners or the OSU extention would help me, possibly gather information from others who were reporting, and offer a non poisonous way to control the aphids.

The cost of removing 4 trees is pretty steep, but that was my only solution.

The bottom line is the state probably won't finance more workers in the dept of agriculture. I am sure that everyone does all they can.

Sammy


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Sammy
The County Store went out of business several years ago. they just couldn't compete... I was a close friend of the Sivadons that owned it and only live a couple of miles from them. I see Bill almost daily as he is now the manager of the Dollar General here...Yes, I almost stop everyday to get something..... I worked at the Country Store as a young teenager back in the 70's and have fond memories of it.

My main disappointment about the Tulsa Master Gardeners is that they are supposed to support Tulsa County and the surrounding communities, but when they have their spring plants sale , They choose to go out of state to get their plants instead of supporting the "Buy It Local" campaign! I really have a hard time with that. I tried for years to get them to contract a plant order, but they didn't want to support Oklahoma business......

Ron.. I haven't heard about Colebrooks. Dad said he saw them at the Garden Show last weekend in Tulsa with their booth. Also If you bought tomato plants from the Tomato Man, then you were probably buying the plants I grew. I grew for him almost from the beginning. I grew for Lisa the first year after Darrell Passed, but decided to push my own product and quite doing wholesale among other things.

There is a newer garden nursery called the Garden Trug in South Tulsa....


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I liked the Country Store. They examined my soil a few times, and we made some purchases there. It was across a little street from Bobby Palmer's Rose Nursery. He has since moved, but is one of the best rosarians around. I purchased from him for years and years until I decided to go "no spray".

I had also wondered why the Master Gardeners did not sell local plants. I would love to have local plants, and to know what they are. By the time we can plant in the spring, I am terribly busy with my tomatoes and roses. I have the beds prepared, but do not make time to research.

Fortunately a friend of mine is a master gardener and she retrieves the flowers for us. The program gives a very narrow pick up time - one day, I think, then the flowers are a donation.


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Price, and guaranteed delivery times makes the MG's order from the other whole salers.

Moni


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The Broken Arrow Farmer's Mkt is a good place to get plants. Everything sold must be grown in Oklahoma. You can get quite a selection of tomatoes and herbs in the spring. Last year, along with my butterfly garden plants, I sold lots of organic Heirloom varieties, as did two of my mkt friends. The mkt opens in April. We aren't nearly as big as Cherry Street, but we have a lot of fun and enjoy working with our customers. The market is held under the Pavilion on Main Street between 81st and 71st street. The silos are right west of the market. Hours are Saturdays, 8-12.

I am curious about your woolly aphids as there is a butterfly that at the larval (caterpillar) stage feeds on woolly aphids. If only we could get those butterflies to find your woolly aphids and lay eggs. This is the Harvester Butterfly--a small but beautiful BF. It's our only carnivorous butterfly in the U.S. It's not very common anywhere. Were your trees Alders?

Sandy


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The description of the aphids is exactly like the description for Asian woolly hackberry aphids.

Their goo and slime were everywhere, and they destroyed the appearance of my rose leaves. Water did not phase them, and I could not find anyone in the Master Garden program to even admit that they existed.

I posted enough online to find out that I, alone did not have many options with them. Frankly I wanted more sun for my roses, and always thought that the sugar maple tree was contributing to a problem I had with ants, so I had them removed. I had a sugar maple, ash, cottonwood, and another. My yard looks better without them, but I thought I should have more attention from the dept of ag. than I had. It is frustrating to not know where to turn.

I did not know about the farmer's market in Broken Arrow until later in the spring or summer. By the time my husband went there, he said that just about everything was sold out. We live about 3 miles from it, so I will definitely go there this year.

I would love to have flowers that are exclusive to Oklahoma. Do you also sell tomato plants?

Sammy


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Yes, I sell some tomato plants. I sell mostly heirlooms with a few of the varieties that are supposed to be best for our region. I need to go through the seeds and see what varieties I'll be growing this year. The seeds are ordered but haven't been started yet. I'll be starting them after mid month. There are other growers with tomato plants and other vegetable starts. We also have the best chicken available--free range, no chemicals. And another friend sells all sorts of face creams and soaps she makes. I love her face cream. In the summer, the Hmong population around the area bring in lots of wonderful veggies they grow. The Asian vegetables are available like Bok choi and Lemongrass.

Never heard of the woolly aphids you are having trouble dealing with. I'm so sorry that you have had such a struggle. Now that you are limited in plants to take care of, have you tried Neem oil? Most of the organic pesticide treatments for plants are oil based. I struggle with mealy bugs and use an oil based product on them. The mealy bugs love salvias, and I have lots of perennial salvias in the gardens. It usually takes several treatments to eradicate them.

Maybe we'll meet sometime at the mkt in the spring. I don't live very far from the mkt--about 8.5 miles southwest. I know it's a 17 mile round trip as I keep account of mileage for business expenses.

The ice storm knocked down my portable greenhouse yesterday--one side is laying on the plants. Don't know what my losses are yet. I haven't started most plants for this season, but had lots of tender perennials inside.

Sandy


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I bought from Darrel Merrill for years but the plant quality just doesn't seem to be the same since his passing. Prices have gone up considerably also. I now buy from Duck Creek. Much better prices and plants seem to be very healthy. I wish Gary sold sheep doo.


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Sandy-
I would sure like to know how and when I could buy Asian veggies. I have been growing Choy Sum, Pak Choy, and Kailaan the last few years, but I am giving up that space for tomatoes this year, so I need a good source for them. I buy Asian veggies at the Nam-Hai Oriental Food Market on Garnett, but the quality is nowhere near what I grow at home.
Too bad about your greenhouse. I just built a car-port type extension on the back of my house and moved all my various soil conditioners into it on Saturday. I know I have about a foot and a half of snow over everything, but cannot get out of the back door to see for myself.

It is supposed to be minus 10 tonight. I hope the power stays on- I have filled my garage with my tropicals and have been keeping it at about 40 degrees with heaters.
Ron Z


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Breasley,

One of the vendors at the BA mkt sells Goat Doo.

sandy


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Sandy, I will look forward to meeting you.
One of my big disappointments this year in the tomatoes is that they got end rot. Others just did not taste good to me. I did enjoy the Cherokee Purple, Celebrity, Early Girl, and Jubilee. I like crisp and spicy in just about everything.

This year I intend to have everything set up to can. Last year suddenly the tomatoes were ready, and I did not know how to do it. I hope that does not happen again.

I also want to grow many greens that we would enjoy. We have such a short growing period here, but it is a little longer than I thought last year. I gave up too early. I think it can even be longer if I devise something to shield them from the sun.

I am excited to find out what you sell, and hope that some plants are available early.

Feel free to email me. Your email is not available.

Sammy


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I feel isolated - no mail, no newspaper, no travel - which means no ads and no visits to nurseries. Thankful for the internet.
Good time to mark planting labels, fill 6-Packs with seeding mix, check out grow lights.
I have to admit, I have started tomato and lettuce seeds- cannot contain myself.
Ron Z


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I noticed Gary didn't link his website so I'll do it.

At his website, you can order sweet potato slips for delivery or you can see the dates he'll be selling at the Cherry Street market, various plant shows/spring festivals, etc. His tomato variety list for 2011 is posted there too.

I hope those of you in the Tulsa area will seek out both Gary and Sandy (butterflymomok) and other local growers and buy Oklahoma-raised plants whenever possible since you're lucky enough to have local growers in your area.

As for the Master Gardener issue, I think the Master Gardener program is a fine one, but it is an extension-service based program so of course that's the kind of info you'll get back from them, and the master gardeners are taught to look up the latest research and info and relay it back to those seeking information. MGs aren't expected to know everything or to have in-depth knowledge of every issue, but rather just to know where to find that more in-depth info if it is needed. There's nothing wrong with that. However, it often is easier to get real-life first-hand info from people who've dealt with the same issue you're having at any given time. There's where a forum like this comes in really handy.

I am extremely disappointed to learn that the MG group buys out-of-state plants for their plant sales no matter their rationale for doing so. If anyone in this state at all should be promoting the purchase and use of Oklahoma-raised plants, it ought to be the MG group!

I do agree with Sammy that many businesses (though certainly not all) are just looking to sell you whatever you'll buy and don't care if it will do well in your area or not. That's why each and every one of us has to do our own research before we purchase and make sure we're buying seeds or plants or supplies that meet our needs. Just because a store or online retailer is selling something doesn't mean we ought to buy it.

Dawn

Here is a link that might be useful: Duck Creek Farms


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I agree that local experience is of far greater value than what generic sources can provide.
Questions often cover material that cannot be answered correctly unless someone has actual experience with the subject being discussed.
I honestly believe that I have learned more about Oklahoma gardening from the Oklahoma Gardening Forum (especially Dawns posts) than I learned from the Master Gardener program.
Ron Z


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Are you positive about Colebrook's. They just added on the last couple of years and I can't see them going under. I would really hate for incorrect information to be put out there. I will check with them sometime next week and post here.


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Colebrook's was in operation last summer, as they contacted me to see if I had liatris available. They were looking for a lot more than I had. Unless something happened recently, they should still be around.


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snookums, are you thinking about the florist that has been next to what was Binding Stevens? I cannot remember their name, but that is what I thought of when you mentioned Colebrook.

They are still in operation, but they are more of a florist than a nursery.

Sammy


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It was Cohlmia's that was in with Binding Stevens, and they're around 15th & Main now. Colebrook's website is still up and running; I'd hate to see them gone!
cj


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Thanks, CJ. I looked up Colebrooks and saw that it was far away from us, at least, but did not see the Cohlmia.

I'm so glad that you filled in that blank for me. Things like that can just roll around and irritate me, if I don't get the answer.

Sammy


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Hey Sammy - I just happen to drive by Cohlmia's often, and remembered that it had been next to BS. I'm not much of a florist person, and only went in there a couple of times when it was connected to Binding Stevens. For myself, I got to Stringer more than anywhere else; Stan has given me good advice over the years, and they have a huge seed display all year long. Like most displays, they lack in variety selection, but they seem to stick to varieties that do well in this part of Oklahoma.
cj


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Charlie, who had Binding Stevens and Cohlmia's, had a location on 15th street just east of Boston that had lots of tropicals and (I believe) he ran his commercial business out of there. He still has that location. A couple of years ago, he was selling annuals and perennials in the area behind the large brick building besides doing the commercial business. Colebrook's is in Berryhill and Riddle Plant Farm is also over that way. That may be too far for some, but I do know lots of people from Broken Arrow and Southwood who make the trip.


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I found out that Colebrooks is alive and well. Here is their info:

Colebrook Nursery
5915 West 31st Street
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74107
Tel: (918) 445 - 0539
Email: colebrooks@mindspring.com
Website: www.colebrooknursery.com

Ron Z


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This is a tip for other square foot gardeners in the Tulsa area. I don't think there are very many of us, but hopefully someone will find this info helpful.

I was buying my vermiculite at Stringer for $20 per 2 cubic foot bag. ($10 per cubic foot)

I recently found it at Independent Material Company in a 4 cubic foot bag for $13 ($3.25 per cubic foot).

So less than 1/3 of Stringer's price. Wish I had known about this a couple years ago, I would have saved a lot of money.

Their address is
34 North Owasso Avenue in Tulsa

and here is their website
http://www.independentmaterial.com/

They are a building supply store so you won't find any peat moss or compost there, but it is fully worth a trip just for the vermiculite.

Jo


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I found that I could buy 2 cubic foot bags of MG Canadian spahgnum peat for $7.95 at Stringer Nursery (after paying $9.95 per bag at Home Depot).
Stringer also has bags of Fafard 52 mix (60% pine bark fines) for $17.95 for a 2.8cf bag.
I bought 2.8cf Pro-Mix Mycorise Pro at Colebrooks for $22, and 3cf bags of Jemasco Landscape & Growers Mix (70% pine bark fines) for $6.95 per bag.
Pro-Mix BX was $22 per 2.8cf bag at Worley's.
I bought some 20 gallon plastic totes at Home Depot for $3 each, but they were gone when I went back for more. They do have 30 gal containers on sale for $7.75.

If anyone knows of any good buys on 10 or 20 gallon pots or totes, please post.
Ron Z


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Ooops- the Pro-Mix at Colebrooks was $20 per 2.8cf bag.
Ron Z


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I was in lowes in bixby and they have cool season transplants, broccoli, lettuce, romaine and others. they also have 1 and 2 gallon blueberries, rasberries blackberries and grapes. Southwood Nursery has some veggies plus strawberries and herbs.


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Peat moss

the bag of premier peat moss I got at Home Depot yesterday was $10 for three cubic feet so 3.33 per cubic foot. If the Stringer bag is 2 cubic feet it is $4 per foot. But if it is the same size bag that's a deal. Can you verify the cubic footage? I might need more Peat moss. Thanks

Jo


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request

Request: if anyone knows of a reasonable $ source of bagged compost please post. i don't need a ton, maybe 10 or 15 cubic feet. I hate the stuff they sell at Lowes and HD.

Thanks

Jo


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Peat Moss

Hi, Jo-
HD and Stringer both have the same 2.0 CF Miracle-Gro Canadian Spahgnum Peat Moss at the $7.95 price at Stringer and the $9.47 price at HD.
HD also has the 3 CF compressed bale of Canadian Spaghnum Peat Moss for the $9.75 price.
I use both- the MG peat moss for mixing with pine bark fines for my containers, and the other peat for mixing with garden soil. I use far less container soil, so am willing to pay more for the loose MG peat with the added nutrients and wetting agent.
Hey- I'm old and deserve some consideration for reducing my work load. (Actually, I do watch prices closely and feel guilty when I pay more than necessary).
Ron Z


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Peat and compost

Ah I gotcha! I was wondering if there was a difference in Peat Moss brands. Now I know! Do you have a preferred retailer for bagged compost?

Jo


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Compost

I need to make a correction - the $7.95 2cf spahgnum peat is at Walmart, not Stringer.
Jo-
I have the same problem you do for finding the bagged compost. I have not found any real bagged compost. I'm sure that you have seen all the various bags labeled "compost" that are usually NOT a good compost mixture. I have used the Back-To-Nature cotton-hull compost from Stringer, but only as a last choice. I do mix the Back-To-Nature composted cow manure and chicken manure (and my home-grown compost) with my garden soil for the garden with fairly good results for greens and peppers (my tomatoes were not great last year).
I make about 30 cf of my own compost twice a year from lawn clippings, saved shredded leaves and kitchen scraps since I could not find compost to purchase.
Ron Z


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I don't believe I saw Riddle Plant Farm named on your list. I just bought some cool season transplants from them today. They are located in Sand Springs, off Hwy 97. The address is 3510 Summit Ave. I buy from them every year.


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Thanks for the info, grannyjojo-
I had seen their greenhouses from Highway 97, but did not know they were a full blown nursery.
Their website is shown below.
Ron Z

Here is a link that might be useful: Riddle


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  • Posted by maryl Z7 Okla. (My Page) on
    Thu, Feb 24, 11 at 15:34

Joining the conversation late but would like to add Myers nursery for Ornamentals for Broken Arrow or south Tulsa people. They are located at the corner of 161st and 81st. They open by mid March and are usually closed by July. They are a "tent" based operation with local owners that come every year. Their plants are exceptionally well maintained. Also they carry some varieties that are newer and different then your usual 6 pack of Begonias (which they also have). Their speciality seems to be Calibrachoas.

Another ornamental source is Sunnyside Nursery off Memorial in Bixby. Again, well maintained stock and their flower designer is marvelous for those who want to have their containers designed and executed by a professional.

Under the Sun is located at 91st and Sheridan and carries a nice assortment of mostly bedding plants, but some perennials, herbs etc. For the last few years they have put up a tent at 81st and Garnet in the spring.

Most of my gardening supplies (mulch, amendments etc.)come from Stringers. They have the best private blend of potting mix around, especially good for roses. When the Stringer family got out of the nursery business a few years back (after being around forever) I was very upset. Loosing Binding Stevens was horrible, but to also loose Stringers would be devastating. Fortunately Stan managed to buy the last store and so far has managed to keep it open.

Then there is Roses Inc. Tulsa, which is actually in Broken Arrow just off of 129th. If you want to grow more then Knockouts from Lowes, this is the place to check.

As for the Farmers Market in Broken Arrow, the first year they had it on Thursdays and Saturdays. Last year they went all spring without any announcements about when they would be open. Pathetic promotion by the city of Broken Arrow. I finally found out that they had changed the days open to Tuesdays and Saturdays (I preferred Thursday so I'd have supplies for week-end gatherings). But by then it was hot and I didn't care. Just as I was gearing up to buy my fall decorations such as ornamental corn, cornstalks, gourds etc. they closed. I haven't a clue what they will do this year, and if they follow last years pattern, they may announce it once in the paper and then let it drop.


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Jo - thanks for the tip about Independent Materials; I'm definitely going to check them out.
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Maryl,

As a participant in the BA market, the advertising has been determined by when funds are provided.

The market will open the second weekend in April this year, and will only be open on Saturdays. I think this was decided by the city of BA. I am signed up to have a booth again this year. We usually end the season at the end of October. If sellers abandon the market early, then the market will close early.

The change in days was decided by some of the sellers that didn't return last year. I voted to keep Thursdays, however, a lot of the vegetable sellers said that with the days so close together, it didn't allow them to harvest enough for the second day (Saturday). As it happened, a lot of those people didn't return.

The city of BA does not make money from the market. Spaces are very cheap and yearly dues are low. The first year, David had a big budget to advertise. This past year, with every city/town experiencing the crunch, there was a cut in funds.

Hours this year will be 8-12, every Saturday. Hope this helps--don't give up on us!

Sandy


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Candy Onion Plants?

Does anyone know where Candy onion plants can be purchased in the Tulsa area?
Ron Z


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  • Posted by maryl Z7 Okla. (My Page) on
    Sat, Feb 26, 11 at 18:40

Thanks for the information Sandy on the Farmers Market in B.A. I enjoy shopping downtown B.A. but have talked to too many small merchants that say the same thing (and many of them are gone now). They get no cooperation from the city of BA other then lip service. When the city cut back the days of the market to just Saturdays what were they afraid of? More then 3 cars on Main street at once? Geezel. As for cutting down on the advertising budget, if you build it but keep it secret, unlike the movie, they WON'T come. Then they use the old excuse - it's the economy. NO! It's not! Buying a pound of green beans is in almost everyones budget. You can buy them in B.A. or you can go to Walmart. Most people I know would prefer to go to the growers direct. I remember getting some Porter Peaches at the Farmers Market that first year and I thought I'd died and gone to Heaven. The same non-flavored, picked too early peaches at Walmart were pitiful but it was all that was easily available out this way. Oh well. It's like the age old problem with the Ag dept. Plenty to gripe about, but no one wants to solve the problem..... Hope we will see you on a Saturday morning in B.A. but to be truthful, we seldom put up with the shopping crowds on the week-ends now that we are retired....Maryl


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I do not think anything can compare to the Porter peaches. I wonder if the open-air sellers are actually selling Porter peaches as advertised. I get mine from Conrads in Bixby. You can call ahead to find out what varieties are being offered at any given time.
Ron Z


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We used to go to the market in BA all the time. I don't know who sold there, or what type of foods they had.

I live between BA and Tulsa. The BA newspaper will not print many articles of my school or pictures in their paper. They want to be totally supportive of BA. Many many people in that community are in my shoes. I live almost closer to all of the Tulsa shops than the BA ones even though my address is BA.

We have no way of knowing that the market is open or what the hours are. Last year they posted something in the paper about all the markets, and we saw that the BA market was open. When my husband drove over to check it out, he said they had almost nothing.

It is a shame that there is not a way to broadcast that the market is a collection of small vendors, and not a market of itself.

When the time is near, I hope those of you who are selling will let us know when you will be there. Also, why don't you try to get together and put up some flyers in various stores? I don't know to what extent a store like Wal Mart or Lowe's would support you or reject you. Sometimes I think they may support a small time independent vendor - they would also be supporting the community rather than the huge monopolies.

Good luck to all of you. Please give us a heads up the week before you go.

Sammy


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Sammy,

Will be glad to post here when the market is up and running.

Sandy


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Anyone know of a source for the gran-I-grit in Als gritty mix or a substitute product. I figured Atwoods would sell some sort of crushed granite since they sell chicks, duck, etc, but they dont.

Thanks
mike


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I'm am so glad you have taken the time to create a place for a local resource where we can access and share gardening info. Thank you :)
I will be back when I have more time!


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I'm am so glad you have taken the time to create a place for a local resource where we can access and share gardening info. Thank you :)
I will be back when I have more time!


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  • Posted by maryl Z7 Okla. (My Page) on
    Wed, Mar 2, 11 at 23:19

I read in the paper yesterday about a new nursery opening up in southeast Tulsa at 61st ST. between Mingo and Hwy 169. They bill themselves as an eco-friendly nursery with items such as recycled equipment and native plants. Called Groggs Green Barn after the owners. No opening date was given. Nice to see a new nursery coming to town instead of closing down.


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According to their website, they open TOMORROW! WOOT!

http://groggsgreenbarn.com/page38.html


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onions

for those who missed out on Dixondale onions, Farmers Feed in Sapulpa has them for $1.20 per bunch, except for the Super Sweets which are $1.60 per bunch.

I saw them today when I went there to get a bag of moleasses, so I grabbed a couple of bunches


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  • Posted by maryl Z7 Okla. (My Page) on
    Fri, Mar 4, 11 at 1:35

Thanks for the update on Groggs. As it happens I will be in the area tomorrow so I may just drop in. Like someone else posted, I'm looking for composted sheep manure myself. Maybe an "Eco-friendly" place will have it. It's arguably the best manure for roses. I used to get mine at Wolf Brothers on Sheridan if that takes any of you Tulsans back to the past...Maryl


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Mike,

Do y'all have Tractor Supply Company stores in your area? The ones here have crushed poulty grit.

Dawn


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a great place for sheep *ahem* 'stuff' is Shepherds Cross in Claremore. I bought some last year from them, i dont recall the price but it was great stuff! They specialize in organic produce and meat with fun festivals for children and schools. The people who run it are AMAZINGLY friendly and super generous.

http://www.shepherdscross.com/index.html

Also the Tomato Mans Daughter sold lama and sheep droppings, i bought the lama 'stuff' and my tomatoes seemed to love it.

You might want to check on craigslist in the farm section, people offer free sheep/goat/rabbit 'gold' in the summer if you come shovel it out.

I am going to grab some vermiculite on the way home, i just built some SF beds that need to be filled this weekend thanks!!!

~Danni Girl


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Thanks Dawn

There is one out south of Glenpool. I may go check them out. Their website say that have a type.

Thanks


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I stopped in at Groggs this morning. The place is really nice (open, airy, cheerful), and the owners were super friendly.

They had a small area with children's gardening products that was really cute. Lots of decorative items, really NICE pots made out of tires...they had handles and did not look at all like tires.

They had a good selection soil amendments/composts and stuff including chicken, turkey, bags of worm castings, and lots of Back To Nature stuff. I know I am forgetting some things.

Their prices seemed about average compared to other nurseries if my memory is correct...A 1 cf bag of BTN Nature's blend was $8.99, which is about what I seem to recall paying when I bought some from Stringer.

They do have a section dedicated to Epsoma products...I found this the most exciting. They only had the teeny little 4 or 5# bags and I did not see any Tomato Tone or Garden Tone. However, I was telling the owner Kelly that there is a strong interest in these products in our community (at least among many of our board members), and he seemed very eager to carry products based on interest...so if you want them to stock those big old bags of Epsoma, let them know!!!

Jo


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If you have not been to Stringer Nursery lately, you should make an effort to check it out.
They have added a considerable number of products and seem to be aware of container gardening products.
They have the 3.8 cubic feet Pro-Mix BX, several Fafard and Back To Nature soil mixes, several fish and kelp products, Espoma Tomato Tone,etc.
(The Fafard 52 Mix is 60% processed pine bark fines with spahgnum Peat and Perlite added)
(The Fafard 3B Mix is 45% Canadian Spahgnum Peat with pine bark fines and Perlite added).

I was concerned that Stringer's might be cutting back but they seem to be expanding their product lines.
Ron Z


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just thought I would share something

I went to the Tractor supply in glenpool and they have 25 pound bags of Manna Pro grit for $7.99. Just in case anyone needs it for Als gritty mix. Appears to the right size and Ill be putting my citrus in it here in about a month.

mike


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Mike- that's good info- I looked around for gritty mix and could not find any, so decided to use Al's 5-1-1 mix in some of my veggie containers.
I'll probably get some gritty mix when I repot my tropicals later on.
Ron Z


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Hi everbody!


Loving this thread. I am really excited about grogs green barn and may go window shop this weekend. The thought of a quality bagged compost is amazing. Also I have set an alarm on my phone for the first farmers market duck creek farms is at. So i can get some sweet potato plants.
Great to have a localized thread


I went to southwood nursery weekend before last and they had dixondale onions shortday varieties red, yellow, and white dont remember which types. But they were 2.99 a bunch very healthy and big compared to my mail order last year, Final count was 118 in 2 bunches.


I am interested in where you can buy non-monsanto seed in tulsa. They have botanical interests at southwood but they are kinda pricey. But I suppose all seed like that is.


Also I went on a search for alfalfa hay last year for one reason or another and the only place I found it was farmers feed in sapulpa.


Hope that is helpful to someone.


Terra


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Terra-
I was searching the Tulsa Craig's list for straw and found several postings for selling alfalfa hay, mostly in the smaller towns around, but some in Tulsa itself.
Ron Z


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Tulsa/Zone 6 Climate

In case anyone is interested-
According to the Oklahoma Climatological Survey, important planting dates for the Tulsa area are:

2/20-3/1 Earliest Last Hard Freeze (28 Degrees)
3/11-3/17 Median Date of Last Hard Freeze (28 Degrees)
3/22-3/31 Average Date of Last Hard Freeze (28 Degrees)
4/11-4/20 Latest Hard Freeze (90% before these dates)

My personal schedule:
I plant my garden seeds-lettuce, pak-choi. spinach, onions, potatoes and peas- about the middle of March, and have lost very few plants due to frost or freezing.
I keep backup seedlings that I start about the first of March, then transplant them to the garden around April 1.
I plant tomato seeds under lights around the middle of February, then transplant them to the garden around April 1, but keep covers for them in case a freeze is forecast.
I plant hot pepper seed under lights around the first of March, then transplant them to the garden around April 15.

I'd be interested in hearing what others have experienced in this area.

Ron Z


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  • Posted by maryl Z7 Okla. (My Page) on
    Sun, Mar 13, 11 at 21:17

March 17th, St. Patrick's day, is the official start of ornamental gardening season, starting with roses. That is when you begin pruning them. However, as with all things Okie, no date is set in concrete. So watch the forecast. You've got to get somewhat of a handle on pruning roses starting March 17th or they will be fully leafed out and rangy before you know it. I always prune higher rather then lower. You can always prune your roses back further after April the 15th and all hard frost possibilities are gone. Your Gladiolus bulbs should be planted by the end of March so they flower before the really hot heat begins. If dividing daylilies and other ornamentals do it early but make sure the ground temperature has warmed up enough to stimulate new root production...I know this isn't about vegetables, but perhaps someone grows a few ornamentals as well as produce....Happy St. Patricks day to all of you...Maryl


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I didn't know about a St. Patrick's Day planting schedule for other plants, but both my grandfather and my father always planted potatoes as close to St. Patrick's Day as possible.
Of course you must take into account the weather and soil conditions.
I watch the 10 day weather forecast closely, and plant accordingly.
For instance, seeing that we have several above average temperatures ahead during the next ten days, AND the forecast for rain today,
I spent a lot of time in the garden preparing beds for seeding, then planted my first batch of onions and potatoes yesterday (March 13).
I also planted a new Red Blaze Climbing Rose.
It seems that if the soil becomes saturated and cold weather returns, you can often miss out on optimal planting dates.
Right now, my peonies are sprouting up to about 6 inches and my lilacs are full of unopened buds.
Another thing I watch for is the leafing of Oak trees- I feel more comfortable in planting warmer weather crops when the Oaks tell me that warm weather has arrived.
Ron Z


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I'm not sure if this question belongs here but hopefully somebody on here can help me. I am looking for pine (needle) straw to use as mulch. I would like to be able to purchase it locally. Does anybody know of a place that sells it in or around the Tulsa Metro area? Thank you.


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Grumpy's Garden
1140 E. 15th St., Tulsa OK 74120
918�582�3637

I found lots of unique seeds here last year.

Urban Garden
3141 E 15th St Tulsa 74104
Located on the North side of 15th Street, just West of Harvard.
918-289-0018

They always have a nice but small selection of garden plants and lots of hydroponic supplies.


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