Thanks in advance!

dbarron listed a few places on another post a while back.

randy

Carol

Carolyn, the only thing I'm planning on growing beneath them is forest-type groundcover that occurs naturally. By the way, at 65-70 years old, Post Oak is just hitting its stride. They've dated some of the oldest trees in southern Oklahoma to over 400 years. Blackjacks will easily reach 100. I'm sure yours will be growing long after we're dead and gone....if you let them.

Please do not take that as a personal afront to your opinion. You certainly have the right to yours as I have to mine.

But are there not more stately and aesthetically pleasing native trees you could be planting? In Tulsa, and the surrounding wooded nature trails and historic hill areas around gilcrease Hills there can be seen many 100 + year old more worthy Oak species and wild pecan trees along with many other such stately and beneficial trees. Then There are also numerous native quality understory trees such as the redbuds and numerous other species that grace the land and betray visions of a time before so much of the land was turned into cities and towns.

Of course if one enjoys the scraggly, farmer or rancher's field edge, or fence row look found in much of the area's meager once farmed or grazed parcels of land, or if one enjoys a marginally semi arid landscape, than more power to that one wanting to fill the area with Blackjack and Post Oak. Even the leaf shape of those more humble looking trees, fail to rise to the level of the more stately Native Oak species found in the Green country portion of Oklahoma in which the Tulsa area is located.

If there are better specimans of Blackjack and Post Oak trees to be found growing in the area than those I have seen and described, I hope your parcel of land is able to support such better growing Blackjack and Post Oaks in a way that provides for them to reach the potential you described. Also, hopefully to benefit the environment better than most scraggly, struggling, looking like they are so battle worn from just trying to survive the elements seen in many such lesser native oak species that can be seen in many of the unurabanized areas,such as is often seen in some area fields, and country parcels.

When it comes to these specimens, beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder!

Did you find Post Oaks available locally (I'm in OKC)? I asked the same question several months ago (do a search) and called round to various nurseries w/o luck. I got the sense that most folks at the nurseries wondered why I would even bother planting a 'junk' tree like Post Oak.

BTW, the OK Forest Service does NOT carry Post Oaks, but they may have Blackjacks. Unfortunately, you're too late to catch them this season (I believe). I can give you more information if you like. I placed a lilac order with them this year.

I'd love some info on the OK Forestry service, especially if it means access to cheap plants!

Here's the link for Pineridge, they are mail-order and I know hey have Post and Blackjack seedlings in stock: