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Posted by p-mac 7a (My Page) on Wed, Feb 3, 10 at 19:37
| ok, guys - this isn't really part of our veggie & flower gardening, but I've got a damaged tree and I need help & guidance. It's a pine and DH planted it while we were dating years ago. We've watched and babied it...and even though it's done well with every bad winter storm we've had the last several years, this one GOT it. I've got 2 large broken limbs and I need to know what to do about it. In the pic below about a third of the way from the ground you can see a lighter colored spot.
Here's a close up of the broken limbs (darned ice & snow):
Should we cut them and seal the wound? We'll also need to trim the bottom 2 layers of branches so the tree doesn't look or grow strange. Do I do that now or wait? I can also stop by a local nursery for advice, but I can't carry the picture around with me! LOL
Any advice is welcome! Thanks!
Paula
P.S. Yes, that the In-laws place in the background, but more importanly - that's my new garden space minus the grass!!! |
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RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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| Paula, We discuss growing everything here....not just veggies and flowers but also trees, lawn grasses, native grasses and ornamental grasses, vines, berries, fruit, shrubs, and trees and even fungi (mushrooms!). : ) I'm not a tree expert but when we have storm damage to a tree we prune off the affected limbs just above the branch collar. We don't seal with anything but lots of people do use pruning paint to seal cut surfaces. I don't know what the current extension service recommendations are on sealing or not sealing cuts with pruning paint. If for some reason the damage extends below the branch collar (between the branch collar and the trunk) or there is damage that cuts into the trunk, the odds of preventing eventual decay in the damaged trunk are fairly low. I hope Randy or Scott or someone who knows more about tree maintenance than I do sees this post and reponds to it. After every major ice storm, the Oklahoma Forestry Service usually puts out a bulletin or news release detailing what homeowners can and should do to save and protect their plants that received storm damage. I'll try to google and find their info and link it below. I know they had a bulletin on this topic after one of the big ice storms several years ago. Everything looks so blissful and peaceful there with all the pretty white snow on the ground. It's raining here so we have big puddles and lots of mud....same old, same old thing we've had all winter. Dawn |
Here is a link that might be useful: Forestry Service Bulletin on Tree Storm Damage
RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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| Thanks, Dawn! I hope Randy or Scott stop by here too. I think Randy lives in my area so hopefully he can give me some advice from experience out here in the sticks! And Scott - is it a good sign that the stems of my fall-planted blueberries are still green? They're pretty covered with pecan hulls. Blissful? Well, kinda...and that pic was taken this evening from my front porch so you can see what a clear view the in-laws have. Guess they just can't help but watch our every move! And we've had sooo much melting already....hope it all gone before the next round next week! Paula |
RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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- Posted by rjj1 Norman OK Zone7 (My Page) on
Thu, Feb 4, 10 at 10:20
| Paula, I would remove all the limbs on that bottom whorl and not worry about sealing wounds. I'm not up to date with the extension's newer recommendations, but in the 90's it was to use nothing at all. Just keep the tree happy and healthy and it will heal on it's own. I have massive wounds on trees here from the Dec. 2007 storm. They seem to be recovering OK. In fact that storm killed off all my big pines. They were over 30 years old. The year of drought, then the floods, then the drought again. The ice done them in it did. A very sad winter it was. :-) My house is hiding under all that.

I feel really bad for all of you that are going through it now. My trees were in such bad shape from 2007, they couldn't be hurt any worse. randy |
RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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| Hi Randy Wow! Your house is almost completely hidden. Your poor trees. I'm amazed none of the trees have fallen onto the house. I cannot imagine what the recurring ice storms have done to the trees in much of Oklahoma. Somehow we have escaped all but the most minor damage, which I attribute to being so far south. And, you know, y'all hear me complain in drought years when the rain goes just to our west our east and misses us over and over and over again....but you never hear me complain about the ice missing us! Our tree damage here tends to come from the occasional drecho wind or severe thunderstorms accompanied by high winds and it is usually just a few limbs or a tree or two snapped in half, and doesn't even come close to the levels of damage caused by ice storms. I've looked at some photographs online from southwestern OK's tree damage from the recent storm and I don't know if they're gonna have many trees left standing by the time they get that whole mess cleaned up. As of yesterday, there still were entire towns (small ones) in southwestern OK that still do not have their power back. Entire towns. It is hard to imagine. Dawn |
RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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I have not yet recovered from the two ice storms we had and those pictures remind me of how bad it was. I am sorry about your pine tree. Trees do recover if you can put up with the odd shapes for a while. I think you need to plant a row of screening plants to give you some privacy. Tall grasses are good for that. These are not mine but I thought they were pretty.
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RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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| Hi guys! Just thought I'd pass along that as of this evening, we trimmed from that awful break of limbs...down...so there's only about 2 thirds of the tree left. Just broke my heart to help DH cut them, but in view of the next ...yes, NEXT snow storm...I just wanted to be able to give it good "coping skills". Thanks Randy! I know you're not far from me and feel my pain about this. I spared everyone the pics of what the 2007 storm did to the stand of pines across the entire back 5 acres. My FIL planted those 30+ years ago and I just LOVE them...but they were all severly damaged. DH & I walked the back 5 today just pondering the healing & damage. I'm just praying that God spares us any more damage to our trees. And don't get me wrong, I'm not a "tree-hugger" but I just love heritage and nature. I want this land to be something my grandkids have love and wonderful memories of someday when they inherit this space. OK, I'm soppy enuf... =) Paula |
RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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| Paula, It is hard to see beautiful trees just torn apart by ice storms. The ice storms are probably the one weather feature that caught me by surprise here. Even though I grew up only about 80 miles south of where we now live, I'd only seen 1 or 2 icestorms in Fort Worth that were even bad enough to get any media attention....and they were nothing at all compared to Oklahoma ice storms. Most of the ice storms stay either to our southwest or north and I am grateful for that. Our son went to the Tulsa area a few weeks after the 2007 ice storm and was left speechless by the massive tree damage. I don't think this week's Sun/Mon storm will leave us with much ice or snow here in OK and I surely do hope it blows through fast. The models are still inconsistent on the Thursday storm and I am watching the NWS and blogger sites to see what those folks say as the arrival of that storm comes closer. I understand we'll have a lot of cold wind, so wind chills will be very low at times. Hopefully the already damaged trees in our state will do all right this week....it is likely that damaged trees that are still standing may come down, in whole or in part, when the wind is blowing hard. It sure seems like the trees have a target on them this year. Dawn |
RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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| The current view is to NOT seal the cut. yes, cut it as straight across as you can, at a 90 degree angle if possible. You don't want the cut area to be bigger than it has to be. Moni |
RE: Is a pine tree part of gardening? Help?
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| I (we) didn't seal the cuts. We just tried to make sure none of the bark was ripped any more than had already occured. On the upside, the trimmed branches will go thru the chipper/shredder for mulch. So the trees' legacy lives on! LOL Now the pines across the back....they're looking better. We thought this last storm had broken more limbs, but with the warm up (well, sorta) we can see they're in as good of shape as we could hope for. In fact, the tree I pictured here looks much better today. Seems like the tree was under stress with the broken limbs, but having removed them, all the others have perked up and look much better. Thanks, guys, for all your help! Was comforting to me just to be able to ask and get some input! |
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