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Swallowtail Help

luvabasil
10 years ago

The grand-daughter is documenting the life of a swallowtail from hatching to chrysalis. She has 4, and they are all "saddled" (?) just hanging there. They have been there for 30 hours. just hanging. motionless. Is this normal?
Luvabasil

Comments (24)

  • Lisa_H OK
    10 years ago

    They should be changing...look in the a.m., I bet they will be in their chrysalis.

    (tell her a watched pot never boils...that's how I feel every time I'm watching!)

  • luvabasil
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    you know she won't listen!

  • Lisa_H OK
    10 years ago

    Any news?

  • helenh
    10 years ago

    I have a new bird poop caterpillar. Should I bring it indoors?

  • Lisa_H OK
    10 years ago

    Bird poop caterpillar? That's a new one to me :) Tell me more.

  • helenh
    10 years ago

    It is on rue and has a better name. I don't want to say the name because I am not sure. See my post here for a picture of it.

  • Lisa_H OK
    10 years ago

    Helen I think it is a giant swallowtail cat. The rue was a big help to narrow it down. I put a note on the butterfly forum, so Sandy may hop over, but that looks right to me.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Giant Swallowtail cats

  • luvabasil
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    After scaring me half to pieces, they are in their little houses. I was out of town, but it must have been fascinating! At first I thought the chrysalis was part of the stick, but nope. Should I bring them in, or leave them in a sheltered spot outside?

  • Lisa_H OK
    10 years ago

    Do you have them in some type of netting? I usually put them in a mesh (covered) cage and set them on my front porch.

    Usually mine have "hatched" in the morning. They need to flap their wings for a while before you let them go.

  • luvabasil
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    right now, each one has their own half gallon jar with light cheesecloth covering the opening, and they are on the back patio beneath the ferns. Will they overwinter or come out soon?

  • Lisa_H OK
    10 years ago

    I would think they would come out before winter....one to two weeks, probably.

  • luvabasil
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Well, those little buggers are still wrapped tight. It's only been two weeks. Should I be concerned?

  • TreeRoots
    10 years ago

    My .02
    They might enter diapause (hibernate through the winter) Once it starts cooling down in your area, and they still haven't emerged, move them to a safe area where they can feel the cold temperatures. Once it warms again, they'll emerge and you can set the beauties free :)

  • Lisa_H OK
    10 years ago

    I asked this over at the Butterfly forum for you....there was a similar response to TreeRoot's

    Can anyone help answer Luvbasil's question in the Oklahoma forum? She has swallowtail chrysalises and is wondering if they will "hatch" out before winter.?

    Only if they are not kept sufficiently cool. Keep outdoors where they'll be safe from predators but are still subjected to low temps, like on a porch or in an unheated garage.

  • chickencoupe
    9 years ago

    Didn't expect it. What a fabulous surprise when I watered this morning. There are 4 in the parsley.

  • Lisa_H OK
    9 years ago

    Bring them in and finish raising them. Your kids should find it fascinating. Plus :) all my cats disappear. If I want to make sure they make it to a butterfly stage, I have to bring them inside.

  • chickencoupe
    9 years ago

    Really? Okay!

  • Lisa_H OK
    9 years ago

    Put them in a covered ventilated container. Put some sticks in for them to climb on. Hopefully they will use them when they go into their "cocoon". The butterfly forum should have some info.

  • kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)
    9 years ago

    My Giant Swallowtail took 17 days to hatch in a house where the temp is about 78.
    Kristi

  • Lisa_H OK
    9 years ago

    Put a paper towel or newspaper at the bottom of the container, you will need to clean out the container, probably every day.

    oh, here's one of the shots I was looking for:

    Hopefully they will attach to the sticks (can you see the wings? they are getting ready to eclose, probably the next morning)

    {{gwi:531293}}

    After they attach, I put them in a mesh laundry container, put the sticks in flower foam to hold them upright and cover the container with a light towel/cloth...and use clothes pins! I put them on the porch until they hatch. They need to be protected because of predators (ie wasps, etc).

    {{gwi:530484}}

    Mine nearly always eclose in the morning...like 8 or 9 a.m. They need time to flap their wings before they fly off.

  • chickencoupe
    9 years ago

    Oh. Thank you so much for the visual aids, Lisa. I was clueless. I know just the tub to put them in.

  • Lisa_H OK
    9 years ago

    You are welcome. I always find pictures more helpful than just words!

    I didn't mention it above, but I also put the chrysalises on the porch just in case a parasitic wasp got ahold of the caterpillar before I did. If a wasp hatches, I don't want it in my house :)

    Lisa

  • chickencoupe
    9 years ago

    We were too slow for those. Today, we found another and will continue to keep watch. The parsley is located just beneath the coneflowers. Did that on accident, but betting there will be quite a few? Perfect for swallowtails lol We placed it in a happy tub. Do they crawl up the stick to rest? Cuz it already climbed up and is just sitting there on the bare stick.

    fun!

    bon

  • Lisa_H OK
    9 years ago

    They will hopefully use it when they go into their "j" and start the cocoon process. Sometimes they use it to just get around, I think.

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