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Gearing up for fall

Posted by annagater PA (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 2, 10 at 10:47

Hello Everyone!

So I tried posting yesterday only to find that it didn't work! :( So I'm trying again.

I've been reading this forum a lot and have really been learning quite a bit. Anyways, I'm very new to lawn care. I just learned how to use a lawn mower this summer. We've been in our house 2 years now and our yard was pretty much let go for at least the past 10 years. So the lawn is probably 50% assorted weeds and who knows what kinds of grasses. I've been mulch mowing high, second notch down on my Toro. I don't water, just let nature do it's thing. We had two giant pine trees cut down that were badly damaged over the winter. So now we have two large (approx. 15x15 feet) mulch piles in the two front corners of my yard. Very attractive :)

This is my plan of action:

1. 1st and 2nd week of Aug. - Scrape up mulch, then put down some lime and water to get rid of pine-ness. Start loosening soil with my garden weasel.
2. 3rd week of Aug. - Start going to community compost pile and shoveling as many bins as I can
3. 4th week of Aug. - Buy some top soil and grass seed (KBG mix)
4. 1st week of Sept. - Put down top soil all over and to fill in any larger holes, put down grass seed, then cover lightly with compost. Water daily for what seems like forever until I get some sprouts :)

I also wanted to reseed the existing lawn area at least near the mulch piles since it's kind of sparse and I want to try to blend the new with the old. I have about a 1/3 acre yard so, I can't manage doing the whole thing at once. Baby steps :) I also plan on mulching my leaves into the lawn when they start coming.

Any suggestions/advice on my plan? Please keep in mind I have a VERY limited budget.

Thanks for your help!


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RE: Gearing up for fall

Do you know how much and what kind (Calcitic or Dolomitic) lime to apply?
Spending money on anything called "topsoil" is usually a waste of your money since that can be what ever the seller whants it to be. "Topsoil" is simply the top 4 to 6 inches of soil scrapped off somewhere. More than likely what your soil needs most is organic matter, compost, shredded leaves, etc.
Right now contact your counties office of your Pennsylvania State University Cooperative Extension Service and ask about havnig a good, reliable soil test done which will answer some of your questions and then dig in with these simple soil tests,
1) Structure. From that soil sample put enough of the rest to make a 4 inch level in a clear 1 quart jar, with a tight fitting lid. Fill that jar with water and replace the lid, tightly. Shake the jar vigorously and then let it stand for 24 hours. Your soil will settle out according to soil particle size and weight. A good loam will have about 1-3/4 inch (about 45%) of sand on the bottom. about 1 inch (about 25%) of silt next, about 1 inch (25%) of clay above that, and about 1/4 inch (about 5%) of organic matter on the top.

2) Drainage. Dig a hole 1 foot square and 1 foot deep and fill that with water. After that water drains away refill the hole with more water and time how long it takes that to drain away. Anything less than 2 hours and your soil drains too quickly and needs more organic matter to slow that drainage down. Anything over 6 hours and the soil drains too slowly and needs lots of organic matter to speed it up.

3) Tilth. Take a handful of your slightly damp soil and squeeze it tightly. When the pressure is released the soil should hold together in that clump, but when poked with a finger that clump should fall apart.

4) Smell. What does your soil smell like? A pleasant, rich earthy odor? Putrid, offensive, repugnant odor? The more organic matter in your soil the more active the soil bacteria will be and the nicer your soil will smell.

5) Life. How many earthworms per shovel full were there? 5 or more indicates a pretty healthy soil. Fewer than 5, according to the Natural Resources Conservation Service, indicates a soil that is not healthy.

to see what else needs be done.

Here is a link that might be useful: PSU CES

RE: Gearing up for fall

Thanks for the info, kimmsr!

i'll try the soil tests you've recommended. But before even doing any of the soil tests, I'm pretty sure my soil is pretty poor. Whenever I've tried digging, it seems really hard, dry and very light in color. I'm sure it will benefit greatly from some compost.

RE: Gearing up for fall

Since you already know that your soil is "really hard, dry, and very light in color" you already have some knowledge of your soil, the tests will help guide you in getting that soil into a good, healthy condition.

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