This has proved to be my best deer defense yet. Thought I would share and maybe it would help someone else. I started this summer with Deer Scram, then Liqiud Fence and finished off and am still using Deer Out. I think this 3 prong approach keeps them off guard and they were confused with the changes. I have two does with their fawns and a doe with her twin fawns and they walk through my yard and go to my neighbors on both sides and across the street. I get to enjoy looking at them (those darn fawns are cute) but my plants haven't suffered. This is the first year in more than I can count I have hosta leaves and my other plants look great too now that it has cooled down a bit. Yes it is a bit more expensive to use these products but the money I have invested in my plants is significantly higher needless to say. P.S. My yard gets many more deer than the ones mentioned above, they are all over the place. YIKES! Pocono Deer, they love it here too.