Here is a humorous look and nostalgic look at plants and other things that have disappeared from the modern world;

http://plantsarethestrangestpeople.blogspot.com/2010/01/chuck-cunningham-pandanus-veitchii-and.html

Oreophilus,Takil and Manipur in "larger" sizes.

These have always been tough to find in the states.

Just happy to have real Takil seedlings now as these
have not even become available until a few years ago!

I think they will easily prove to be the hardiest Trachy.

Trachycarpus fortunei x wagnerianus 5 to 7gal.size.I looked for 3yrs and finally found one for sale in the U.S. at a reasonable price.I bought a 5gal.for a very good price.You get the best of each parent plant in one plant.The fronds are stiffer than fortuneis.They hold up to strong wind and hard rain with no problems.There as cold hardy as a fortunei,and in my opinion look much better.
Randy

I always wanted a betel nut palm, but I left it outside during an extremely dry october day, and that was the end of it unfortunately. Maybe I'll try them again when I live in the tropics!
I've also been looking like crazy for a nice sized variegated shell ginger. Im sure nursuries in the south have them all over! I look for other plants on and off as well and I would love to be able to afford to have a nice bromelaid collection!
I always wanted a Panadanus, but they are so expensive off of ebay. Maybe some day I'll find one of those as well! I was happy to see all the ones in Disney World and Universal were absolutely untouched by the cold!
-Alex

Definitely TAKIL.

Hi
Probably my favorites are palms of the genus Licuala but if it's not L. grandis almost impossible to find and even harder to culture lol Another is the genus Johannestijmannia. After struggling a few years with them it becomes obvious why you don't see them in spite of their beauty lol As you get older (wiser??)you appreciate the easier ones MUCH more lol gary

I have not conducted an exhaustive search, but I would like a decent sized Mazari Palm. I purchased a small one from a nursery that shall remain nameless. It arrived in very sickly shape. The sellers expended a huge amount of energy insulting my intelligence but finally gave me a refund. Poor thing croaked within 2 weeks.

TZ, I saw variegated, shell ginger (Alpinia, I believe the genus is), being sold at Pathmark. I do see them from time to time at the nurseries. I got mine off of eBay. They grow relatively fast. The one shipped to me was a nice clump and not expensive.T he Pandanus I just got on eBay was also not expensive (under 20.00 for a health specimen grown in Hawaii.Had a Betel once, it did not last but would give it another chance.

Garyfla., I have one Licualia (it's a ramsayi). Does not seem to really grow very much--don't know what it's problem is as all the others are growing happily. PS., Yes, there is good reason why the more common palms are...common (they're easy to cultivate, attractive, and relatively fast growing). But if you like some of the more exotic, try some of the Pritchardias. My P. hildebrandii grows well. (Fijian fans though are hard outside the rainforest.)

Butia, so now we need to look for wagnerianus x fortunei--happy hunting!

Jim Hardy, now I have to research Manipur and Takil.

On a final note, I have a palm growing nicely and for the life of me, don't remember where it came from and more frustratingly, can't tell if it's a Butia or Jubacea (Chilean wine)--I'll post a pic later and you guys can debate its identity.

Randy

I had a nice Takagii but lost it to winter...maybe
it could have recovered but it was cored out too low to the ground!

I put a Takil in it's spot.I also planted 2 others.(-:

Back to Fort x Wags...they are really excellent little palms!

Mine has spear-pulled the last 2-3 winters,interestingly"it"
and the Fortunei I planted in Nov 2007 didn't pull that winter!

Anyway,I agree,beautiful palms.
Hopefully mine will get some size in the next few years...
it's recovering nicely now-the leaves are gorgeous!

njoasis

Oreophilus & Manipur(I guess you could add Latisectus and
Martianus)will probably never be planted out by me-just
not very hardy but part of my Trachy collection.

The reason I say Takil could/should/would be the hardiest is this-

-For one thing Nainital,which I believe grows up to 6300ft
has in many cases been one of the hardiest Trachys....
although not everybody has had that experience.
IMO.Nainital is a hybrid(possibly with Takil)and there are 2 variations-
once again IMO-(IME),one is greener,extremely fast growing
and not as hardy,probably more like Fortunei,another is
more yellow green,slower/at least when small/and much more hardy.
My smaller Nainital(the yellowish one)and my
Bulgarian Trachy were the toughest Trachys for me after last winter
and although smaller plants,had less damage than their larger bro's.

The reason I think Takil may be the hardiest is,it grows
at least as high as 8200ft and gets plenty of snow in it's
native mountain habitat.

So,there's that(-;

Any palm I can keep alive long enough to form a 10' trunk. So far my best luck has been with minors, so now that I have brazorias and birminghams maybe one day i can accomplish my goals.

I have grown or attempted to grow nearly 400 species of palm by now in So California (some have had success with about 500 different species but in much better climates than what I live in)... but so far I have yet to come across a Trachycarpus princeps (the real thing) or Brahea pimo or moorei. All three are extremely rare out here and fetch a huge price. But even for a huge price, they simply are unavailable. I have been growing palms for nearly 20 years... still hoping to come across one of those three. I think everything else I have looked for is or has been available at one time or another. Though I admit to having never seriously looked for stuff like Pritchardiopsis or Hyphorbe vaughnii or other incredibly rare things like that. Nor have I bothered trying anything really tropical (other than my obligatory attempts at growing coconuts or Licuala grandis). I know there are sources for T princeps, but after being burned a few times with 'false' T princeps, I am reluctant to try again.

Here is your best deal for real Princeps...

I have bought 4-5 from Steve,,his are the real deal
and by far the best size for the money!

Here is a link that might be useful: Princeps

Any palm I can get to live more than 2 seasons.