Carpentaria acuminata

My humble, lowly opinion would be Ptychosperma elegans.

Steve, i think you are right.....

hi
So far i've gotten Carpentaria acuminata,veitchia montgomeryana, and Archontophoenix alexandrae lol
The latter is what the owner of the building told me thay are but i had doubts . I want to buy a couple and all these will be tough to identify as small plants Thanks for the help gary

Hi
So you would say this one is a different species , or more mature. I feel that the first is ptchoperma elegans even though the owner says it's Archontophoenix lol
Any way the one in this pic is more robust,taller and most importantly is much messier than the former which is the impotance of the ID Thanks gary

hey if no one knows the difference between the 3 palms
why not just get which ever one you want and call it whatever you want?(-;

Works for Plott palms 0:

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That thur is a south florida palm, oh i miss Plott palms.

but yeah the wind is making it hard to identify by the leaves. Maybe a close up on the seeds?

Hi
Because the BIG difference is the growth habit .
i'm going to plant under some highlines so vertical is limited. Second note the refined seeding method of the first as compared to the second. MUCH better landscape palm in all respects . Both are over 20 years old,so all bad habits should be apparent.
Note the one on the right in the second pic?. It is less than 3 years old!!!
I'm doing a complete re landscape of my grow area which is only 35x75 . This time I'm going to put the right plant in the right place!!! lol It will not only be brimming with multiple species it will also be elegant,refined and follow aesthetic principles . It will even be possible to walk through it without climbing over ,going around as well as no first aid to treat cuts and abrasions!!! It may even be possible to find the cat?? I have a dream!!!
Okay I have yet another dream !!! So, essential, that I get exactly the RIGHT species in the right place.lol
Thanks gary

without a look at the seed, my first guess would also be Ptychosperma elegans... nice thin trunk, prominent inflorescence with a starburst look and arching leaves (and from this distance hard to see leaflets but they look as if they could have a blunted tip)... two skinny to be Archotophoenix and to pole-lie and skinny for Carpentaria (usually both these other palms have much more prominent ringed trunks). Also, P elegans very common palm while Carpentaria, though not rare, is less common (even in S Florida).

Hi
What is the difference in the seeds?? The second starts bright red while the first starts brown turining red before falling . The habit is MUCH different. The first,only one cluster on one side while the second on all four sides . lol besides the height my main objection to the second Very showy but very messy lol BTW The owners of the second know it as "Florida christmas palm" can't find that in any literature.lol Thanks gary

Archotophoenix and Ptychosperma seed are both small and red but the inflorescence of the Archontophoenix hang down while the Ptychosperma is more star-burst shape (like first photos). Second photo sure looks like a typical Archontophoenix.

I believe the 2nd photo shows 2 Archontophoenix, probably alexandrae. Hard to determine which because of the wind but the prominent spear and the more swollen base lend themselves to that conclusion. I'm pretty sure that the 1st photo shows P. elegans as I mentioned earlier.

The Archontophoenix will get much taller and more robust than the Ptychosperma.

Hope this helps.

Alex palms have fronds that are silvery underneath. If they have it ,they are,if not..they ain't.

Hi
I think i may have solved the whole problem. I collected some seed from the first palms. Will be a few years but i know I have the right ones!! Have admired these for years and have found no bad habits.. Will be fantastic as a background for the planned bed Thanks everybody gary

Archontophoenix myolensis and purpurea have silvery undersides as well (though both are far less common in cultivation) which makes them much harder to tell apart from A alexandrae when young palms... but once they get to about 4-5 feet tall, their crownshafts begin to take on their unique colors (slightly turquoise in myolensis and purplish in purpurea). Still, mature palms of these two species have pretty silvery undersides.

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