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Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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Posted by protempsfish (My Page) on Thu, Oct 16, 08 at 15:11
| Does anybody have one of these growing of any signifigant size? I read they are very tropical and that they are very slow growing. |
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RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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Hi
Still have one that I got as a seedling in 01.. Still under two feet tall with only 3 fronds.lol From what I can gather it requires about 30 years to maturity !!!
gary |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| Thanks Gary. Holy Slow Growing! In appearance they almost look like a cycad, but I love what they look like. Do you give it full sun? I know they need high humidity, but they are an understory palm are they not? |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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Yes they are a true "rainforest" type palm,growing as understory in very dense forest.
Only one I've actually seen is at Fairchiild gdns in Miami. Even there they grow it within a GH.lol
I keep mine in 80 percent shade near a waterfall and never allow the temps below 60 lol. I'm not sure if this is normal growth rate about all I can find is "slow " lol
Someone posted pix of some in habitat in Malaysia .I believe on this forum ,if not you can find some by googling J altifrons or J. magnifica. They all look as though taken in habitat though.
It's funny, as when I first got it I was concerned that the shadehouse only has a ten foot ceiling,was concerned it would grow through the roof.lol I suspect my great grandchildren won't even have that problem.lol
I wouldn't mind that it stays smaller since it's much easier to protect but gee, wish it would get big enough to display those pleated fronds. I'd be happy with 5 feet !!!! lol gary |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| These are beautiful palms and for me was not easy to find. When I found a source I tried several altifrons and magnifica's and they all died a slow death. I lost mine when the weather was cool as I don't get freezing cold very often that was never the reason.These need to be kept in a place where they get very little wind and humid air with warm temps to do best. garyfla is doing better than me at least his are still alive. |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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Here in central Thailand, Joey palm seem to grow quite well.
These are about 10 years old specimens at Bromeliad House,
Nong Nooch Botanical Garden, Pattaya, THAILAND 
A blooming plant with my friend, Gift. 
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RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| WOW Thanks for those spectacular pics stephania. |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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WOW
Those are spectacular!! Are they within a GH?? Looks like they're getting a lot more sun than mine. I would be happy with one in the last pic.
David I've killed at least a half dozen over the years,interestingly mostly in summer particularly after heavy rains lol The one that I have left is in a pot with a mix of pine bark and lava rock. i suspect that rather than the weather mine were the victim of disease.
Recently lost my last specimens of Licuala obicularis from the same problem.
Stephania.
can't these be grown as yard plants,even in Thailand??
Would think the weather would be ideal but they obviously can't handle a lot of wind, Thanks for the pix evn though they make me feel even more like a failure lol gary |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| Hi ! Brandank & Gary (^_^) Long time ago, I visited to the Joey's habitat, southern most of my country.
The place is Hala-Bala Wildlife Sanctuary, in Narathiwat Province
which close to peninsula Malaysia. This fantastic species found growing on slope in low montane tropical rainforest.
They do grow mostly in shade, on humus soil. Yes! with rainy, nearly all year round. The plant in Nong Nooch BTG were grown on ground, under 50% shade-coated net. In our tropical climate, 28-30 degree Celsius all year round
with 50-80 % of humidity, I definitely can kept Joey in my back yard.
Sure, they need some shade and good drain humus base soil.
In my case, I use 1 part loam with leaf mould, 1 part coconut husk.
And you are right, Joey don't like windy place. Because I'm a xeric plant lover, most of my collection are Dyckia (a bromeliad)
anyway, I 've kept few palms, one of them is a Silver Joey : J. magnifica, here. 
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RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| Those are amazing photos! Thanks for sharing. I purchased one last week from a seller in Thailand. He told me that his was approx one year old. |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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Thanks again for all the wonderful pix. For me , there are sooo many other plants that I can grow with ease that if my last Joe croaks ,think Ill stay away from them lol.
They could never be a yard plant for me and I have such a small area what would I do if they actually grew ??lol
There are several nurseries selling J. perekensis seedlings and I'm soooooo tempted lol . But gee I'm an old man don't see many 20 year projects in my future lol Thanks again !!! gary |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| You will love Joey, Protempsfish Gary...LOL :-)) I have a picture of J. perakensis in its habitat to show you here... 
But I think this one,J. altifrons with tropicals, is better to encourage you, Gary (^_^) 
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RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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WOW
What a fantastic mixture of both old and new world tropicals!! Can only dream of having something like that lol. can identify most but what are the mounding plants in the forground and what is the mulch being used??
Do I see Boston ferns (Nephrolepis)sneaking in around the edges?? These grow like weeds in my area and without constant removal would swamp everything.lol
I grow my Joe in a pot in the shadehouse between a red and and a green form of Palm orchids (Curculigo orchidoides,metallica) and they constantly overshadow palm.In fact I have moved some of the green form into the yard where it is hanging on .
Thanks for the potting recipe , will try that
when spring returns,on bothe the Joe and the Liculalas
gary |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| Glad you like it Gary (^_^) the mounding plants in the forground is a kind of Selaginella (apoda?)
and the mulch is actually a part of unused clay pot's hole, like Hydrotron. |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| I just received my J Altifrons today in the mail. It was a very good size considering it was less than a year old. We will have to wait and wait and wait to see how it does! |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| They are very slow growing but I have few that are good size. They were not small when I got them. They are expensive. Below I have a link to the page with some cool photos. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Joey Palm Tree
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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Hi
You weren't kidding when you said expensive lol. I gave 15 bucks for mine but were seedlings.
gary |
RE: Diamond Joey Palm/J. altifrons
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| I think the silver joeys are better looking. |
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