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Need help with white fuzzy bugs/spots on butia

Posted by brooklyngreg 7a NYC coastal (gchristiangreg@aol.com) on
Sat, Nov 14, 09 at 13:40

In the Spring I bought this butia via mail. It had a white speck or two that stayed the same and I figured it was nothing. When the cool weather started they have multiplied and have a "white fuzziness" under some of the leaves.

They looks like meally bugs, but I am not sure how to get rid of them. I tried safer insecticide and coffee grinds and they are still worsening. PLEASE HELP before my other plants become infected.


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RE: Need help with white fuzzy bugs/spots on butia

You might want to get a paper towel and put rubbing alcohol on it. It works really well when im getting rid of scale on my palms and will probably work with mealy bugs too. Becareful not to get any rubbing alcohol on the soil because I dont think that would be good for the plant. It doesnt harm it if you cover the leaves though (my coconut had no ill effects when I treated its scale problem with alcohol.

You also might want to get a spray bottle and fill it with warm water and soap. That works pretty well to keep things under control.

Good luck!


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Thanks TZ. Thanks for the ideas. My mom uses the soap and water and mixes it with tabacco. I try all the appraoches to see which works best.


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they have some good bug spray at homedepot kills them dead fast. One made by bayer. Great stuff!!


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If there aren't to many you can try a Q-tip dipped in alcohol and remove them that way.


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Speaking of bugs I thought I would share that my plumeria has been infested with spider mites and I have finally given up on it and cut all the leaves off :( Good news is in about 2 or 3 months it will start to grow back from the tips.

Too bad I cant cut all the leaves off my coconut. So far I have been treating it for scale once a week. Its keeping them in control, but I must be missing some because they keep on GROWING in number! The rubbing alcohol kills them all on contact, but you really need to get them all for it to be effecive.


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Thanks for all the advice. Jim, I am trying the alcohol first. The bayer insecticide will be my last resort.

Its a fustrating fight. I found out ants keep re-innoculating scale on my citris because the feed off of the scale. I regiliously removed scale and did use plant sprays. That ws three years ago and no more ants or scale on the same plants.


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Yea G
My lemon tree had scale real bad last year.
Any of the oil based insecticides will smother them but like T7 pointed out...you have to get them all.


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Neem oil works great too, especially if you prefer something organic. Just spray it down after you remove what you can manually with the alcohol.


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Hey Greg... Be careful when you use any type sprays with Copper on your Pindos...I was told that when I was treating my Sabals several years ago for scale..(OIL) type treatments...Just thought I would share that bit of info!!!
I like to use Ivory soap (1 tablespoon) per gallon to prevent little critters from munching on my plants!!!

Good Luck!!!

Laura in VB


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im sorry to say strong bug spray is the way to go. If not your gonna end up letting the bugs eat your plants all winter.


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Laura, Mike, Jim thanks. I will try the Ivory soap next, if it reinfests or as a precaution. Will "oil" sprays state they contain copper?


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Hey Greg,
Most oil type sprays used for scale contain copper...a few do not...just check the ingredents on the back...When I spray my large Sabals...I have to make sure the spray doesn't hit the Pindos...I can tell when it does sprinkle down on some of the leaves...they turn brown almost instantly...I will look at the product that is labeled with copper when I get home tommorrow...

Take Care..

Laura in VB


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RE: Need help with white fuzzy bugs/spots on butia

Actually, the Bayer Advanced Systemic Tree & Shrub (active indredient is the synthetic nicotine based compound Imadichlorprid or something spelled along those lines) will do a bang-up job on all kinds of nasty sucking insects, scales, mites, aphids, you name it.

I had an infestation of really large, juicy scales on my ornamental peach trees last year. I used this on those, and about 3 weeks later, I could go out there and shake the branch and have dead scales fall off like snow.

I also use this stuff on all of my houseplants every year, once in the spring when they go out, once in the fall when they come in. Keeps all of the various things at bay. Used to have whitefly and aphid problems on some things, especially my hibiscus. No longer. I only wish mites were affected by this product, but they aren't.

However, if your pindo is outside, this product won't really work until next spring, because the plant probably isn't physiologically active enough to take it up through the roots. You might want to use a more conventional treatment as suggested above, then use this stuff next spring once the weather begins to warm (when the daffodils bloom).


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Hi denninmi,

I heard about the shrub stuff being really effective. However, using a product that kills bugs by taking pesticide up into the plant via roots would make me not want to eat the peaches from that plant. They would contain the product.

I would only use it on non fruiting or non herbal-use plants.


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Actually, this was on my flowering peach trees, the ornamental, double flowered kind -- half peach, half almond. Fruit is theoretically edible, but bitter. So, not a concern there. But thanks for looking out for me.

The stuff works really well, though. Would be good for your pindo. Once again, if you were somplace in the south where it would fruit, and you wanted to eat the fruit (I've heard it makes great jelly), woulnd't want to use this product.


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THanks again. I am hopping to get it to fruit but that will takes years, therefore a single use would be alright since its just a 5 gal. I am in brooklyn NY but I do have a plan to see it fruit :-)


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I would love to get mine to fruit too, but right now I just want it to survive and come back well. Then when I master that (if I do at all) then I will attempt to keep it happy enough to get some fruit on it (Im not crazy about dates, but Ive never had pindo palm jelly!). I would be really cool to see a palm tree rated a zone 8 actually be willing to set seed in a zone 7.


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I believe we can do it T7. Good location and winterizing will do the trick. Like you said, lets get it growing well first. I think if we do that the fruit will occur naturally and I have observed the fruit during July in VB which tells me they are not a late fruiting plant. That's increases the chance of seeing fruit for us in our area. I notice warmer zone plants the fruit later like my citris require some extra care but plants that fruit during "our" summer tend to be fine. That's my theroy and lets see what happens:-)


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FWIW -- my Sabal minor blooms and matures berries every summer. They turn blue-black, ripe looking by September/October every year.

Don't know if this has any relevance to the Pindo ripening in cooler zones or not.


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TropicalZone,

If you would like to try some Pindo Jelly, give me a shout via my email....I'll be more than happy to send you some!!!

Greg....I've seen Pindos here in VB fruiting in October..and starting as early (Ripe fruit) in July...so it seems that they continue to bare fruit for a while!!!

I checked my oil that I use only on my windmills and Sabals for scale...The only bottle that I have left is Volck oil. But I checked the ingredients and I couldn't find anything listed with copper...It must have been another brand that I had used...Volck did have Palm trees listed with the other plants...but they didn't have them listed specifically....So I hope this helps!!!

Take Care Everyone!!!

Laura in VB


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Hey Greg. I have the same white fuzzy spots/bugs on my Butia. What worked best for you. I want to take care of it before it gets out of control. Thanks Keith


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Just to get it under control I separate the palm (at leat 1-3 feet way) from the others so it doesn't spread. Sounds simple but extremely important.

Then I used namebrand Safer spray for meally bugs and scale etc.. directly on infected area and the bud/new spears. Then spray the whole plant. Just a health note, wash up well after using the sprays. Repeat if needed 7-14 days later. If they re-appear, then remove them by hand with a q-tip dipped in alchol and repeat spray. That will work.


 
 

 

 


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