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Palm pics in Staten island (post yours Too)

Posted by statenislandpalm7a 7a (My Page) on
Tue, Nov 10, 09 at 17:44

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yucca rostrota 3 years in location
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My palms tied and wrapped in lights
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my neighbor's windmill
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t. takil first winter
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needle first winter
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windmill 2nd wintewr and some hardy tree cactus
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5 year (winter) old pindo palm

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monkey puzzle
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Windmill palm 3 years on site

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my cactus
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my experiment pindo palm under a clear plastic container for protection


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RE: Palm pics in Staten island (post yours Too)

Thanks for uploading those pics. They came out pretty good considering its getting dark SO early. Dark at 5:30 is a little too early for me!

These pics definately prove if you look hard enough, you will be surprised at what you find. I know yuccas are really catching on in in the NYC area (especially staten island which has some yuccas rated 7b thriving with NO protection) and southern magnolias too. Im going to post pics of everything left in my backyard and all my outdoor palms. There was also a yucca I saw (on staten island) that looked so perfect I thought it was plastic the first time I saw it (and if it plastic then I certainly apolozige) :)

Good luck and thanks for showing us around!


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Yeah almost everyone has a yucca but few people can afford a $1,000 yucca like the one in the pic
The most popular yuccas are
yucca rostrota
"" Gloriosa
"" alloifolia
"" faxonica
"" recurfolia

A lot of people have tropicals around here because they are sold at most nursery's and even big box stores

Yucca Fax. Pictures, Images and Photos

Yucca Recurv Pictures, Images and Photos


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very nice pics. looks good more than i thought in ny. Ill post some of around Va beach soon.


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Yuccas are really nice plants. I used to have a yucca rostrata, but after 3 years it died. It didnt die from the cold though. It was in a very large planter with no holes in it and it would sit in about a foot of water for 3 years and almost never dried out. The water was so deep some birds used it as a bird bath during the winter. I wish I did something to save the plant, but I forgot about it most of the time.

One thing I dont like about the yucca recurfolia is that they do collaspe when they are large and growing slanted. They always come back though. Usually the head of the plant grows roots on the ground where it fell and the plant takes over from there. They are very overpruned though, especially on SI(I guess people like the look).


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Did anyone get a photo of the 8 foot butia?


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The plant in the 7th picture is the 8 foot butia. It actually looks more like 6 feet in the picture, but I think it looks much nicer and bigger in person, very hard to get a good pic of though because of the shrubs blocking it.

Good luck!


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I found a bigger butia on staten island it is planted in the ground at a nursery called shwitzer's on richmond road I'll try to get a pic of it


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I tried looking for the nursury on google earth and found out it is toward the north shore of the island near todt hill. I looked at a street view and a birds eye view but couldnt find it. It must be newly planted (within the last 3 years or so).

Ive seen some large butias for sale by the local nursuries (that also includes the nursuries in Brooklyn and Staten Island, and even some on Long Island, dont know most of the names though). Im not sure if they are selling them as annuals or shrubs, but they arent cheap (10 foot double trunked x-mas palms go for about 80-100 dollars, which is a great price, but 5 foot butias go for about 200-300 dollars, which is kind of expensive).


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I have look around for butias locally and have not seen them yet. You both have encouraged me to keep scoping them out.

$200-300 is a lot because some guy recently posted he picked up sizeable butias in the south for $75. So if you like to travel and have a friend or spouse to do road trips, driving south can pay for itself if you buy a palm or two. Only one trick, you need to leave room to take it home and I suggest prepare your travel partner in advance of your plan :-)


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her it is

I found a bigger butia on staten island

i talked to the people in the nursery and they said it will be it's second winter
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another potted one in the background

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Nice one! Did you ask how they protected it? It looks pretty exposed. It will be interesting to see how it looks in the spring.

Thanks.


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I see 3 gallon Butias around here for $20-25 pretty often, $75 would probably buy at least a 7 gallon size, maybe bigger depending on the time of year.

I bought a bundle of Butia seedlings off of ebay for $10, I potted them up and now I have 27 Butia palms. I plan to grow these up to 3 gallon size and then try to resell some of them.


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Thanks Staten Island, that was and is a real treat to palm lovers. It lived thru the winter in such an open area. That is something. All your other pics are good too.

Windy and subtropical weather. I work on the sixth floor in a large area hospital in Central Brooklyn the wind is picking up AGAIN!!! My desk is by the window. Its got to be gusting to 50+ mph currently (10:54 am)


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They wrapped it in christmas lights with big bulbs, wrapped it in a shlt load of plastic wrap (so much that there is a 6 inch layer) They also mulched it. they kept the lights on anytime it was below 20 degrees.


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It looks like it worked really well.


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Good to know what works:-)


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Does that big Yucca Rostrata in the first pic get covered up in the winter? If not, I'm amazed that it hasn't rotted. I tried one a couple years ago and it got bud rot. The top rotted out and it died.


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I cant speak for that particular yucca, but I assume it recieves no protection becuause there are alot of yucca rostratas in the area, most are over 6 years old. They are very nice, but very slow growers compared to the curve leaf yucca though.

Alot of them are planted in very well draining soil, but most of the natural soil is clay and very poor drainage.

Good luck!


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I heard if you plant them is sand/gravel/soil mixture that drains well; that rotting is less of an issue.


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no the big yucca is unprotected and planted in clay soil. it is on a hill which recieves better drainage.


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Here's my Yucca recurvifolia. About 11 years old now. No protection.

Yucca recurvifolia


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Nice yuccas. I was commenting on sandy soil requirement for the first photo on this thead (what is that plant?) - the AZ looking plant needs well drained soil.

The Yuccas here are very hardy and really demand sun more than anything else from a zone 7.


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In SI it's november still no hard frosts and palms are uncovered. Today we had a high of 60


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Pretty good. 2 out of 4 of my tropical hibsicus are still outside and one of them is blooming. I covered my pineapple on one cold night, and its still outside growing too! All the bananas leaves were cut off, but a new ones continue to slowly open. I still have a few others outside too.

I put all the lights on my palms already, so they are ready to do their job whenever the cold comes.

Unfortunately I wouldnt get too used to it this nice weather, the pattern is suppost to be literally the opposite of november. So instead of being mild and relatively dry (other than Ida) we will probably be rather cold, and very wet (maybe some snow comming up in the next few weeks too) which is very early for coastal areas even this far north.

I personally dont think we deserve a cold winter. We had a very slow start to the summer (I dont think a single day in june made it to an average temperature and there were literally only 2 days where clouds didnt completely cover the sky). All my plants other than the cannas were on standstill until july.

I hope the forecast is wrong, because this is the first year Im overwintering palms outdoors and even though im prepared to lose some of them, they arent going without a fight :)

Hopefully the predictions arent correct, but no matter what it looks to me liek there will be a lot of coastal storms in the next few weeks.

Good luck!


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I agree, I am hoping for a mild NY winter - but the curernt pattern is for costal storms and in Jan/Feb that means cold air to follow.


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i covered my pindoes with light and mulched all palms I turn on the light on at night but im not covering anything untill at least 25 degrees


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Hi SI,

That's good you are prepared ahead of time. They really do not need the lights while its above freezing.

Some palm folks think this is the time to start to keep them dry so the roots aren't too wet when the freeze eventually hits. I do this by partially covering my palm now. Another consideration is that if the temps drop into the 20s with 50 mph icy winds, they can be harmed. Its not ONLY temps, but high cold winds and moisture that kills palms.


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I plan on covering the pallms with wilt proof. my neighbor overwintered a trachy last year and aonthe one this year with christmas lights and wiltproof


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What is wiltproof?


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Wilt Pruf is this new spray that you put on plants around this time of the year and it will increase a plants cold tolerance by 2-9F. It claims that it would be like living 200 miles south, which would be somewhere near southeastern virginia or the delmarva penninsula for you.

i havent seen them being sold locally yet, but you can get them online (I think liquid fence sells it)


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Did you ever use wiltproof TZ? It sounds good and I would think you have to spray the whole plant both sides of the leaves. The truck too?

My guess is that it would not completely protect from water freezing in the palm's sensitive bud and killing the palm if we have rains followed by sharp wind and cold in the low 20s.

Has anyone liked using it - please comment?


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Whoops!
Sorry I just noticed I got WiltProof confused with FreezePruf, But they are very similar.

WiltProof keeps moisture in the plant and therefore will add some cold tolerance to the plant but it isnt advertized to keep the temperature down. Its been out for a while, and is probably available at home depot (but you might have to get some online).

FreezePruf is a new product. this product works for cold. If you want your tomatoes to live past a frost, put this on 12 hours before a frost (but I dont think I would put it on a plant with food on it). This one claims to make your plants think you live 200 miles south.

With both of them you need to apply it to the top and bottom of the leaves very well, but putting it on the trunk will do nothing for the plant.

Im thinking of getting some FreezePruf, but not until after I see how well it works (this is the first winter it has been publicly available). I might get some wiltproof too to exeriment on, but for this winter I will probably be protecting my palms "the old fashioned way". Lol.

Sorry for the confusion, hope this cleared it up!


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Yes that was good cold hardy palm info. Thanks.

I may try it in the future as well.


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Here's a link to Freeze-Pruf
Very different product from Wilt-pruf,which is a anti-transpirant.

Click for Fairfield, Iowa Forecast

Here is a link that might be useful: Freeze-Pruf


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Trying to find others on staten island, who have outdoor palm trees, please contact me


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There are some other ones on staten island that ive noticed but didnt take pictures yet. This thread is from last year. Btw the small pindo palms died of spear pull and i replaced them with windmills


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That's a bummer but you can still try a pindo plam in the Spring.

Just cover her Dec 1 - April 1 and turn on lights for her when it drops below 25* and you have a nice pindo in a few seasons. Jim hardy had them survive his zone 5 winter.


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Hey to you guys on Staten Island, I have several windmill palms growing in my yard....I live in Great Kills...would love to be in contact with anyone from staten island or brooklyn about growing palms or tropical plants in the outer boros

thanks and i look forward to be hearing from everyone

mike


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Yeah i live in eltingville and thats where all these pics are from.


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hi staten island palm...that is great, an in great kills , one town over, have a few windmills in the yard, that i have had for awhile and protect in the winter, with a homemade greenhouse....do you know how i can post pics of them on here.

i saw the pindo palm at schweigers, looks pretty good since it is not protected .

thanks for your help

mike


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to post pictures make a photobucket account and upload your pictures then post the html code

The palm at shweigers is a replacment for one that died last year i have some pictures of it if u loook up the old threads


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Is the palm at schweigers the pindo palm in the nursery pic in the earlier pics on this thread? If it is then its too bad that it didnt make it :(

Photobucket is definitely the easiest way to post pics on here and an account is free and easy to make. Save the pics on your computer and then post them onto your photobucket account. After that you can click on the pics you have on your photobucket and see 4 links. Click on the html one and paste that link onto your message here. Hope to see some pics!!!
Good luck!
-Alex


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yeah it is the same palm it survived but had speerpull and slowly died around march. The replaced it with a smaller one and i dont think they are protecting it.


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Thanks SI Palm 7A.....it did not look protected at all ....mine have survived winters, but i protect mine with a homemade greenhouse, which gives them light and warmth and the ice and snow stay out

will try the website you said

thanks
Mike


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Thanks Dennis for the status on that palm! I had a feeling it wasnt going to make it without protection, but it would have been really cool if it did! Hopefully this new palm will make it, but I definitely doubt it (but it would have no problem if it got a little protection).
Good luck!
-Alex


 
 

 

 


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