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pollinating passion fruit

jspracklin
19 years ago

We live in Florida and bought a house with a passion fruit vine but I've been told that we do not have bees to pollinate the flowers. Specifically, does anyone know how to do it. Do you have to do every flower?

Thanks

John

Comments (15)

  • Krstofer
    19 years ago

    NO bees there either huh?
    I live in the middle of a bunch of orchards... But I don't see many bees. I guess there's some disease that's been whoopin' them, & the 'africanized' queens have been taking over colonies as well making them into 'killer' colonies.

    Anyway, in my expierence you have to 'do' each flower.. What I do is take a pair of little floral snips & clip the antlers into a baby food jar. Then I rub a q-tip in the pollen & wipe it all over the stigmas.

    I've found that if I do it in the afternoon the pollen is dry & easily painted- If it's too early in the day it's way too moist to do anything with.

    Usually it works fairly well, but if your plants are not self fertile you'll have to take the pollen from one plant & paint it onto another. I've found my caeruleas don't 'like' their own pollen- They'll set fruit, but the seed count is MUCH higher if I use pollen from another plant, so I have 3 for this purpose. All are coming into flower as I type, as is my lavender lady & lady margret.

    Enjoy- And be sure to trade your seeds should you get any!

  • betyababy
    17 years ago

    Hi there, thats a great article, but do you know, if there are male and female flowers, I have planted four vines together, about 3 yeas ago, never had any fruit, but are hand pollenating this year, some of the flowers dont have these antlers, but rather a small bit of pollen way down inside. . Or is it because they are different vareity of vines. Thanks

  • Krstofer
    17 years ago

    Passiflora have both sexes on the same flower- But on some flowers the anther may be stunted, others may have smaller pistils.. I saw that a few times on lady margaret.

    Almost all passiflora have flowers in this general shape:

    I don't know of one that has the pollen "way down inside". So it's either some unusual variant, or a pipe vine or something like that.

    Could be that all 4 plants you have are neither self fertile nor compatible with each other- That's kind of hard to do with the common varieties, but for example

    and
    won't cross, ever.
    and
    I've done myself.
    How do you know what will work? Try it. Some will cross very easily- others not so much. Just like crossing a collie & a lab would be fairly easy, but a great dane & chihuahua would be virtually impossible.

  • betyababy
    17 years ago

    Thanks for that, I 've given up trying because all the flowers just keep dropping off, I bought a new vine, only a foot high and it already has a passionfruit on, the ones down the back are in a less sunny spot, but still get plenty, I did grow the vines from seed, (yellow fruit) so maybe their infertile.

  • californian
    17 years ago

    I have never seen a bee on my passion fruit vine's flowers, and have never hand pollinated them, yet have hundreds of fruits. The vine itself is taking over the yard and is now over a hundred feet wide growing two directions on a fence. It even has covered up a large playhouse I built for my kids.

  • baci
    17 years ago

    Plant maturity & zone may affect it. I have had the same experience as californian 10. No bees  only tons of butterflies. Mine fruit in the shade.

  • stevedanni
    14 years ago

    We have a two year old passion flower, and this year it has produced fruit for the first time. we've had about 50 flowers, of which about 1 in 5 have produced fruit. Next year we are looking to hand pollinate and your advice has been very useful. Thank you.
    NOW we rent our place and want to keep our passion flower with us when we move, so we decided to put her in a large planter with a wigwam type frame for her to wind around. So far she seems very happy with this arrangement. Do any of your members envisage any problems keeping her like this or will she be happy winding around herself?

  • kavalinda
    13 years ago

    This has already been a great learning experience on this message board. Thank you..! We bought a Caerulea variety from a Home Depot two years ago. It made it through the summer last year and grew heartily into a large thick vine that covers a 14' portion of a 6' tall wall in our yard. It's on the East side of a N/S cement block wall. Thus, being Phoenix AZ... doesn't get the direct sunshine late in the day, but does get the heat through the block wall. It's not seeming to bother it at all.

    Regarding flowers, however... we only had three last year and each one only opened fully for about a 24 hour period. The second day they would open half-way and then died off slowly in about a week's time. I didn't get any fruit last year.

    I did no trimming over the winter. But this spring, I trimmed back the new growth to maintain the vine to it's current size. The vine has developed tons of flower buds and about eight of them have opened up so far. They still only open up fully for about a 24 hour period. We have few bees here as well so I'll be hand pollinating. But is it common for the flowers to only be open for about a day or so?

    Thank you in advance for your assistance and wisdom.

    Michael and Linda Kavanaugh "kavalinda"

  • kavalinda
    13 years ago

    Excuse me... but I made a mistake on the previous post just prior to this one. The type of passion fruit vine we have is a "Frederic". I'm hoping it is a self-pollinating vine. ;-)

  • passionflow
    13 years ago

    Hi Folks
    Yes many passion flowers just open for a day. There are usually so many bees around that is all they need to stay open for. Hummingbird pollinated ones tend to stay open a few days longer. P. caerulea will not self pollinate but Passiflora edulis 'Frederick' is at least partially self fertile. So hand pollinate and hope!
    Myles Irvine

    Here is a link that might be useful: Passiflora edulis

  • perezjuanf
    11 years ago

    The idea of clipping the antlers sound great, what would happen if in the baby food jar you put the antlers of different vines and mix them and then use this mix pollen to pollinate the flowers

  • perezjuanf
    11 years ago

    Do you cut the antlers on the same day the flower open?

  • mommbybomby
    6 years ago

    Hello, We also live in Northern Florida and have had our Passion flower for about 3 yrs. We have lots of bees, butterflys and hummingbirds to pollenate but have only seen flowers-no fruit. Mine is purple, not sure if it's a fruit producer?? I did find out you can make tea out of the flowers, stems and leaves. It has a relaxing effect and if you like to smoke you can also smoke all parts of the plant for more effect.

  • Lillian Franklin
    6 years ago

    I believe your passionfruit is a P. 'Incense'. It's a cross between P. caerulea and P. cincinnata. Put that into google images and see if that's what you have :) P. caerulea does produce fruit but I believe it needs to be cross pollinated.

  • LCOP
    6 years ago

    I use a pair of Entomological Tweezers for pollination, as you can pull the anther pad off the male donor and rub it onto the female pads easily. the tweezers have a curved end so its good for poking into flowers.

    You can only produce fruit with compatible flowers in some you can trick fruit with P. caerulea pollen. P. murucuja and P. tulae will produce fruit with any pollen of another species, but any seedlings will be the species.

    Decaloba species will only be pollinated with other Decaloba species.

    Tacsonia species mostly with other Tacsonias, but will produce fruit with Passiflora section.

    Passiflora Section with other Passiflora Section Species or Hybrids.

    Decaloba section Xerogona Species and Hybrids are fertile within the subgroups.

    Citrina, Conzattiana and Cobanensis will produce fruit with each other and their hybrids.

    Most other comon Xerogona eg Capsularis, Cesnana, Rubra, Sanguinolenta will produce fruit within this group and pollen from the other Xerogona groups.

    I have done "Martins Magic" which is Sanguinolenta x Quinquangularis