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2009 Peony Wish List

Posted by maifleur 5b-6 MO (My Page) on
Mon, Apr 6, 09 at 20:01

It is time to start thinking of what peonies that you want to have to fill in the bare spots in your collection. I am a member of several of the Peony Societies around the country. Each of them have annual or semi-annual peony sales. Please tell me if there is anything that you would like to see at their sales. Since I live in KCMO I especially would like suggestions for HPS's sale this October.

Please use your regional club as a source for information and plants.

I have heard that there is a new club starting in Wisconsin but have no details.


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I've always wanted a fern-leaf peony (Paeonia tenuifolia)!


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Maifleur, I'd love it if the peony societies would ship to members that can't make it to the meeting. There are several lily societies that do that. :)

I need to renew my HPS memembership, I think it expired this year.


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HPS decided because of difficulty shipping and giving an equal chance to everyone that they would not do shipping. Some of the others have done some shipping MAPS but most will only do so if they have a really special plant.

Have had too many people complain of the cost of shipping and wanting a refund after receiving the plants.


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White Cap
Coral Sunset
Chun Xiao (Sprint Morning)
Xuan Li Duo Cai (Great Floridness)
Rose Heart
Candy Stripe


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Would love to find this Peony, Rozella !
Happy Gardening :)


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A few more that interest me in form/color with fragrance:

Mme Furtado
Philomele
Lilac Time
Jeanne d' Arc
Lavon
Gold Standard


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You can pretty much offer me any peony and I wouldn't turn it down. :) I've never met one I didn't like. :)


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Just a reminder although I mentioned using the various peony society sales if you are searching for a particular peony and do not know of a nursery or friend that will supply you post the information. Several growers do read this along with regular gardners. Some one who reads this may have the perfect peony for you.

Houdonii posted a couple that are available in europe but to my knowledge not here. If you know of a source please post. FYI Rose Heart and Rozella are mentioned in Adelman's catalog among others. So check your favorite supplier as different growers charge different prices for the same plant. But I will add to the list of wanted peonies.


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There may be other nurseries that provide the peonies I listed, but here's what I've found:

www.4irises.com (in San Jose):
Chun Xiao (Spring Morning)
Xuan Li Duo Cai (Great Floridness)

All the peonies in my 2nd post are available from a Canadian Nursery...

La Pivoinerie D'Aoust Peony Nursery (http://www.paeonia.com/):
Mme Furtado
Philomele
Jeanne D'Arc
Lilac Time
Lavon (available at Adelman's as well)
Gold Standard (widely available)

Pivoine is the French word for peony. A location where you can find peonies may be called a pivoinerie. Lindsay D'Aoust is the owner of the nursery I listed. Before too long, I may have to call my backyard "La Pivoinerie D'Houdinii"


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4 iris yummmm. Have you ordered from them? Several years ago I posted a request for little or locally known nurseries that have peonies. I think I will add to list.


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Oh lord, I'm doomed. www.4irises.com has some of the most beautiful peonies I've ever seen.

Has anyone ever grown Golden Wheel (Huang Jin Lun)? I've been lusting over this peony for years... I just wonder how well it would grown in my Iowa dirt.


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I have not ordered from either nursery. I do like the herbaceous officinalis 'Rosea Plena'.

Someday, I would also like the tree peony 'Jade Flower' as shown here (or even the suffruticosa 'Er Quiao' - Twin Beauty...further below on that webpage):

http://www.ag.auburn.edu/hort/landscape/AU_Peony_Project.html#JadeFlower


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Cricket Hill Garden has 'Philomele' for $35, w/free shipping.


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I just realized 4irises offers Philomele as well. So, they have a couple that I would like, and at decent prices, too.

Philomele
officinalis 'Rosea Plena'
Xuan Li Duo Cai (Great Floridness)
Chun Xiao (Spring Morning)

Those last 2 are my favorite, if the pictures are true to form.


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I want true, flowering sized plants of P. mlokosewitchii (sp? - too lazy to look it up), rockii, veitchii, and delavayi.


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Brooks Gardens is one of the only true moloko plant sources. Threse also has a wonderful amount of tree peonies that you seldom see so if possible this is a must place during the tree peony season. No, they do not sell tree peonies even though I have been trying to get them to do so.

Here is a link that might be useful: Molly link


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As far as tree peonies go:

Kamata-Nishiki
Alhambra


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Tree peony ---Ukare Jishi


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  • Posted by peonyman Zone 5, Lawrence, Ks (My Page) on
    Tue, May 12, 09 at 20:12

houdinii

I assume that Xuan Li Duo Cai and Chun Xiao are Chinese herbaceous peonies. All of the Chinese herbaceous peonies I have grown seem to share the same fault. They all have very weak stems.

I don't have a lot of experience with them but I grow
Lian Tai
Purple Hibiscus
Da Fu Gui
2 or 3 others that I cant remember the names. They all sound greek to me. Hum, Chinese anyway.

Leon


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For Tickertoo,

I was reading this post to gather info on favorite peonies. I absolutely broke up when I read your reply! I know EXACTLY how you feel. The other day I felt totally frustrated trying to pick out two varieties from of the kazillion I found on just three websites. I CAN'T MAKE UP MY MIND! I WANT THEM ALLLLLL.

I shut down my browser in sheer frustration . . . Today I'm back at it again; staying calm. God help us . . .


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Houdinii,

I have Gold Standard that I bought from Countryman's Peony Farm in Northfield, VT. This is its second Spring season blooming and I adore it! (of course I adore all my peonies, but this one is a sweet perfection)

Here's some info on Countryman's:

Countryman Peony Farm, Northfield (802) 485-8421; FAX (802) 485-9421; countrymanpeonyfarm@netscape.com (818 Winch Hill Road, Northfield, VT 0563) Open daily, 10-dusk, June 1-July 10. Visitors always welcome. One of the world’s largest herbaceous peony collections, over 1000 varieties; species, hybrids, singles, Japanese, semi doubles and doubles; early, midseason and late bloomers. Choose varieties for cut flower, garden accent or landscape use. Many antique types as well as the latest varieties on display. Peonies sold anytime but will only be delivered in Sept. - Oct. (the proper planting time). Orders may be shipped or picked up at the farm. Phone or write for information or directions.

One thing to note is that although they have over 1000 varieties of peonies, they only sell about 60 different cultivars each year.

Enjoy!
Judye


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One of the APS bulletins Countryman's was offering a CD with various blooms on it. You can probably send them an email to check the price. It should be worth what every price it is sold for.


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I want a peony with the best and strongest fragrance. I hear that Eden's Perfume is the best.

True or is there another better one? Opinions?


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I just had a peony "Crystal Palace" by Saunders, bloom after two years for the first time. It's anemone type flower. Beautiful form. It's from Blossom Hill Nursery in Ontario. They have a great collection. But in the fall they only sell a limited number. La Pivoinerie d' Aoust is very good and I like what they have to offer.


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Do you know what number Crystal Palace is. I can not find a Saunders with that name?


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Update: In the KCMO area, the HPS Fall Sale (which is open to everyone) is scheduled for Sep 26th, with guest speaker Carsten Burkhardt. The potluck meal and auction on the 25th is open to HPS members only. Membership is only $5 annually.

By the way, is there a discount on peonies for HPS members at the sale?...and if so, what is it?


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Up until the last sale there was a 5-10% discount for members. Because the prices of the peonies was so low that no discount would be given for that sale. No discussion as to discounts for this year.

Most years a few items will be for sale at a really cheap rate prior to the dinner. These items depend on receiving donations. I picked up 4 intersectional seedlings, Fairfield X Golden Era, from Jackie Jansen at the last sale. Sometimes some of the sources used will send one or two extra plants not of the type requested. These are generally special plants and not the run of the mill ones. I will be digging my Saunders "Hope" this year depending on the size and shape of the roots they may go either to the auction, where I got them, the sale, or the pre-dinner sale. Of course if the roots look bad because I have not taken time to divide regularly I will just plant back. No need to put trash out there.

Just more reasons to come to the dinner.


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Packed peonies today. Next weekend will be a full weekend as many of the plants have not arrived. Have confirmations of shipments. You can check the HPS site for many of the cultivars ordered. There probably will be some that for some reason or other the shipper did not send but right now all listed are expected to be there.

In the post on June 16 I mentioned Jackie Jansen's Fairfield and Golden Era. She brought 4 plants today and may bring additional ones. These are of her own breeding and at least one showed strong tree peony stems. She is attempting to breed plants with tree peony stems and herbaceous flowers. My first one I purchased of Jackie"s plants bloomed for the first time this year with a large yellow bloom that appeared to have rays of red coming out from the center petals. So far it has had woody stems with buds but those stems have not produced flowers.


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  • Posted by peonyman Zone 5, Lawrence, Ks (My Page) on
    Mon, Sep 14, 09 at 2:33

Houdinii,

There is not an extra discount on peonies for members however the prices are really low. This year we have a host of named herbaceous peonies that are priced at only $10.00. And we expect most of the Japanese tree peonies to be priced at $20.00. These are really cheap when compared to other offerings. There may be a table of un-named peonies that are sold by color only. These should be in the $5.00 range.

The link below shows a partial list of plants that we expect to offer in the sale.

Leon

Here is a link that might be useful: Heartland Peony Society Fall Sale


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Thanks, that's great there's a list ahead of time. I hope to find some time to narrow my wish list (I just don't have much room for many plants in small yard suburbia). Time flies, I can't believe the sale is a week away. I have plenty to do before I can plant any peonies, including cutting down some invasive 'rose of sharon'.


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I am a great fan of P. suffruticosa. I have had somewhat success. I first started with plants i purchased on Ebay from CSCN4502 - cscn4502@aol.com. My first plant was ZHU SHA LEI - cinnabar rampart. I thought it would never go.. and them out of the blue - 4 years later it not only emerged strong from the ground, but was full of pink flowers. It was a bare root imported direct from China. To see that stick arriving in the box, sure made me skeptical. But then I paid $10 for it plus postage. I have since then purchased LAN BAO SHI - blue jewel - and although it was a dry stick.. it had an amazing flowers!
I recommend them. They have a pretty good replacement policy.. basically no questions asked.
CSCN4502 does their ebay list every season.. pretty much done for now except for buy it nows.. I put up their link.. Brent!

Here is a link that might be useful: cscn4502 tree peony


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Packed peonies again today. Got to look at the method that Adelmans are doing their tree peonies. The roots almost appear to be regular herbaceous because so much of the stem is cut off almost to the root. They have very nice emerging stems but since I am used to the longer stemmed grafted plants these look really odd.

I do believe that they may turn out to be a more economical way for growers to produce and ship their tree peonies.

For those looking for rocki seedlings we have a group of nice ones provided by Heritage Seedlings. They sent seedlings but in looking at the plants it was discovered that there were some smaller seedlings where the roots had wound around each other. After they were separated it was decided to reduce the price and in some cases put two plants in a bag.

If anyone looks in from Heritage thank you for a very fine shipment of peonies. As usual lushious looking. The smell upon opening the box to pack was heavenly.


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