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Super Hot Sauce Question?

kclost
9 years ago

Getting ready to make a lot of hot sauce this winter with my harvest from last season. Peppers consist of, Reapers, Morugas, Fatalis, Ghosts, and 7-pots, all red. They are all mixed up, vacuum packed frozen, and yes the sauce is meant to be "HOT".

My question is about a body filler to give some sweetness and flavor. A quick rundown of the sauce ingredients is per 64 oz blender container:

Whole peppers almost filling the blender
4-6 oz Red Wine Vinegar
2-3 oz lemon juice
1/2 cooked carrot
1/2 cooked onion
4 cooked cloves garlic
Salt
1/2 cup water to get consistency right

I will make several batches and blend to liquify everything and then add to large pot to boil, skimming off any foam before bottling.

Looking for another additive that will not affect the shelf life/acidicy. Maybe pinapple, orange, mango?

What are your recommendations and amount?
Thanks...

Comments (17)

  • seysonn
    9 years ago

    I would recommend to make a smaller batch and see how you like the heat and flavor. Technically, I think you recipe is fine and it it only the question of heat level.
    For all that super hots , you have one carrot as a filler ? Onion and garlic are just flavoring.

    I have made HS few times with Habanero. For one part of hab I use equal amount of red/yellow/orange bell pepper then just cook it with vinegar ...

    I have also made some with pineapple/mango frozen concentrate as filler. I found out that sweetness make the heat more pleasant not as stinging with a lot of acid.

    Seysonn

  • kclost
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    oh, I forgot... 1/2 of the peppers are Red Jalapeno (flesh only, little to no heat imo) the rest are the Super hots. This tames it down a bit....

    Good catch!

    This post was edited by kclost on Mon, Jan 5, 15 at 16:07

  • TNKS
    9 years ago

    Ditch the carrots and run with butternut squash,better flavor and just a touch of ACV brings sweetness to the front easily
    Agave will trump sugar and give a good run at honey,again better flavors

  • woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a
    9 years ago

    I do mashes for my sauce, but I use a bit more carrot and a lot more garlic and the last batch was my best with some onion.

    If I was going to do a vinegar based sauce, I would use rice or rice wine vinegar--- very mild compared to other vinegars.

    Kevin

  • Mecdave Zone 8/HZ 9
    9 years ago

    One of my favorite sauces this year was peach, habanero, garlic, onion.

    I also tried a roast pineapple/mango (and a second batch without the mango), but really don't care for it as much as I do the peach.

  • kclost
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Nice ideas... ACV never thought about using that vinegar.

    Seyson, How much of that concentrate are we talking about, something like a table spoon per pint, quart??? Is that similar to lemonade concentrate in consistency?

    Peach, Mango, Butternut Squash, any worry about messing with the acidity by adding those sweeter ingredients? Any additional acid required?

    This post was edited by kclost on Tue, Jan 6, 15 at 13:05

  • woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a
    9 years ago

    kc: not to downplay the expertise of the hot pepper sauce makers here, but go visit the harvest forum. Run your recipe past the experts there. They should have the info you need.

    Kevin

  • Mecdave Zone 8/HZ 9
    9 years ago

    Good advice Kevin. I figured ajsmama would be along soon enough too. She's real good about keeping us from making fatal mistakes. :D

  • seysonn
    9 years ago

    I also think that consulting with canning pros is helpful.

    I think probably they are going to tell you that with the amount of onion, garlic and carrot you should not use any water. Cause those ingredients plus fresh Jalapeno have enough water to dilute the acidity.

    The only safety issue here is to end up with right pH ( less than 4). the rest is just personal taste and flavoring.

    Seysonn

  • judo_and_peppers
    9 years ago

    in any discussion of making hot sauce, a pH tester is worth it's weight in gold. you can get a cheap one off amazon that will give you good ballpark figures.

    I personally wouldn't use red wine vinegar, but I don't particularly like red wine in general. I use either white, rice, or apple cider vinegar.

    when you say "whole peppers filling the blender" in addition to those other ingredients, it really throws me off trying to estimate what the pH of your sauce would be. the better way to share your ratios is by blending the peppers down first before adding those other ingredients.

    again, a pH tester is worth its weight in gold. take all the guesswork out of it.

  • kclost
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I have a PH tester but I prefer using the strips, I have never had a reading near the 4.0 mark. Normally around 3.0 - 3.5

    I'm thinking of trying peaches, as they have a PH level around 3.4-3.6 range, maybe Pinapple being a little more acidic. Strawberries might work well being under 4.0... The juices obviously would work great as a thinner.

    I do agree that adding water is just not a good idea, why not add a flavorful acidic juice? Makes sense.

  • kuvaszlvr
    9 years ago

    I have been tempted in the past but never took the leap, what about balsamic vinegar? I always wondered how it would be in sauce. Balsamic is my favorite, very sweet and mild, I've been known to take a swig now and then, can't do that with most other vinegars. I recently bought some expensive balsamic, but honestly, I don't think it's much different than Alessi, which is what I usually use, but I think you'd have to use white, not the dark.

    Anyone here ever try making sauce with balsamic? I'd be curious to hear any thoughts on the matter.
    Pam

  • kclost
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Me too....

  • Big Kahuna
    9 years ago

    I made a sauce last year using balsamic vinegar, along with chocolate habaneros, figs and caramelized onions. Best sauce I've ever made.

  • seysonn
    9 years ago

    Vinegar is just a name for some acetic acid and mostly water. Household PLAIN vinegar is 5% acetic acid and 95% H2O. That is a vinegar with pH of 2.4

    So when it comes to food preservation, only the Acetic Acid plays a role. You can use distilled vinegar, cider vinegar, wine vinegar (Balsamic is also a kind of wine vinegar). The bottom line is the percentage of Acetic Acid that counts. Balsamic / wine vinegars might impart some kind of flavor. Then again one can add all kinds of flavoring ingredients to sauce for personal taste reasons.

    Seysonn

  • kuvaszlvr
    9 years ago

    Yep, I was curious as to how it would affect the flavor. Thanks lee, I might just have to try it next year.
    Pam

  • ozzy2001
    9 years ago

    Wow. Lots of interesting and delicious sounding sauces. I'm definitely gonna have to try and make some sauces next year. I'm going to go overboard on my garden after receiving so many seeds from the swap that I'm going to have to figure out where to use all of them.

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