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Your Experiences with Chiltepin/Chilpequin?
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Posted by legsbig (My Page) on Sun, Apr 22, 07 at 14:16
| I'm mainly interested in growing Chiltepins.
They are hotter than Chilpequins right?
How hard are they to grow? I heard they are HARD. And they take forever and may not ever grow.
Are there any of those little birds eye peppers that are easier to grow?
I had a NATURAL chilpequin plant in my backyard years ago, my mom said its because the birds eat the seeds and spread them around in south texas.
Would be agreat treat to have today! lol.
So tell me about Chiltepins.
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RE: Your Experiences with Chiltepin/Chilpequin?
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| I thought chiltepins and chilpequins are the same. We bought chiltepin plants from cross country nursery and I thought they were easy to grow, no different than any other chili plant. The hard part is picking all those d**&**mn peppers...:) They are very good and very very hot and worth growing if you want to pick the peppers. If you live in the right environment you might get one to survive the winter outside and the birds might spread seeds around and you will get "wild" plants. I have heard that starting from seed can be difficult but I have not tried it. kendra |
Here is a link that might be useful: chiltepins offered at cross country
RE: Your Experiences with Chiltepin/Chilpequin?
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| I had a friend that used to pop dried bird peppers, they looked red BB's, at his desk when he wanted a capsaicin buzz. I asked him to give me a few and I took them home and germinated the tiny seeds inside. The plant is very tolerant of shade and was prolific. I did not like picking the peppers however and found limited use for them although I'm sure they would be fine ground up coarsely and used as a condiment. I found them to be extremely hot but without the diversity in flavor I find in chinense varieties. So, I don't grow them. I know they're easy to propagate however. In fact, I found a wild plant growing next to a building at work that was undoubtedly sown there by a random bird dropping.. |
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It's great to have a chile that was once cultivated by Jefferson! I always used to carry around a tin/pouch of dried pods when I traveled and couldn't find anything hotter than tabasco. At home, I use chiltecpin sauce to spike up the heat in salsa or a chipotle sauce. I think it goes well with jals, serranos, numex, etc. They're also tough little plants that overwinter well. You should grow them out at least once! But Kendra's right, It takes a while to pick them, so get a nice low 'pickin' stool' for the job. b |
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a little bit about myself im originally from west texas, and i have fond memories of traveling to south texas when i was younger (approx 7 years old) w/ my family going to visit aunts and uncles in central texas. i remember especially that my mom and dad would be driving and all of a sudden they would stop the car, and get out on the lonely highway to pick chiltepins that were growing on the side of the road. how the heck they spotted those plants while driving is still a mystery to me. ive never actually asked them. maybe they just knew where the plant grew (as they are perennials and grow back year after year). anyway, i myself have 2 plants that i grew from seed that are over 3 years old.. i somehow kept them alive this long despite not really having a good regimen to keep them alive.... both plants arent doing so well this year..however i will try really hard to get them through this year and hopefully bring them back to health... for me, this was my first time at growing chiltepins from seed and i remember it being really hard to keep the tiny seedlings from dying...there isnt much real information out there on the net about the care of a chiltepin so even though i have had my peppers for 3 years, its kind of been a hit and miss type thing..especially living in texas where it gets pretty hot sometimes i would key in on the leaves, if leaves were a little droopy i would water, but i always worried and wondered if i were watering too much on one site it said to water them 2 times a week in the summer and once every week or two in the winter... i hope this helps, if you feel like chatting about chiltepins and want some seeds, i'll be happy to send you some, i have some from west texas that i have stored. i came across this post as i was searching out information on how to care for them, as even though ive had them for 3 years, i really would like to know the proper way to care for them. my email address dannyreyna1 at yahoo dot com if you are interested in sharing information that you find regarding chiltepins ... Danny |
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| This is the texas bird tepin from Monticello (Thos Jefferson) mentioned in posts. It also grows wild in Mex and United states. Tepins are easy to germinate, easy to grow and make lots of chiles. The plants are extremely hard to kill. They are my primary hot food intake as I am not much of a fan of hot sauces. 
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RE: Your Experiences with Chiltepin/Chilpequin?
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| They are as easy to grow as any other pepper and germinate the same. Mine come back from seed each year, although it gets too cold here for the plants themselves to survive. They do just fine in the shade of trees, although those that get the most sun grow faster. |
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| chilipiquin is the domesticated version of chiltepin. tepin tends to be more rounded while piquin seed pods are more conical. they both do just fine here in zone 5. ive never encountered a pepper that was 'hard to grow.' the plant already knows how to grow just fine on its own. humans dont usually improve things when they get involved, so i just water and fertilize once in a while and let the plants do their thing. |
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| I heard too that tepin is a hard one and you can imagine my happiness when one (old) seed made it through. Unfortunately slugs ate this one tepin seedling (approx. 7cm high) - I hope it dies with burning indigestion; it took the one scotch bonnet I had left too |
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Help!!!! I need my Chilpequin fix!!!! Im a native texan that grew up on these fireballs that moved to Wv. 5 years ago. My mom sent me some peppers which I have planted. red ones, green ones, the result is still the same. I get a plant to grow, but no peppers. Im planting them in potting soil with the pre-added Miricle grow, plants are both in full sun areas and indirect sun locations. Any suggestions??? |
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| Hillbilly, It sounds like you planted "late" in the season from reading your post. My experience has been that excellent pod set occurs when plants were established early on. I too have some peppers I planted late. But my strategy all along was to overwinter and get an early start next year. |
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| Willard Your link doesn't work for me. Anyone else? |
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| This is the photo of the Texas Bird tepin that should have shown with my original post.....must have had a senior moment.... 
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| i have 2 chiltepin plants both loaded with fruit and none are turning red. i planted the seeds indoors in march and transplanted them out side may 1st. both plants have had peppers on them for almost two months how much longer until i can pick red ones? let me tell you these things are hot. i put 5 in some salsa and it was almost to hot for me to eat no one else in my house would eat it. now to sit and watch them turn red |
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| They ARE a pain to pick; here's about half of last year's harvest from one 1 1/2' tall plant. The rest have been consumed or given away...
Mine are just starting to ripen now in the Sacramento area. I pick most of them in late fall so don't give up yet! My plant is now about 13 years old. It took forever for my seeds to germinate (about two months). I was just about ready to toss out the peat pots when I finally noticed them. Has anyone ever tried to take cuttings? I may try to take both some old wood and new growth cuttings next spring just to get a back-up plant... Mike |
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| my plant looks like willard3's but the peppers are a lighter shade of green with the ones exposed to the sun being purple |
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| Here is one called Turkey which grows wild along fence rows in Texas ( it was a more handsome plant before I broke off a large branch putting it in that pot) 
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RE: Your Experiences with Chiltepin/Chilpequin?
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| I reproduce mostly by cuttings (cloning) and tepins, in general, clone easily. |
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Hi all you pepper lovers :) We had a friend give us some chiltepin peppers and we loved them. We saved some and tried to germinate them. To no avail. But we did buy a plant and it is growing well. My question is it is sort of leggy looking and I was wondering if it should be pruned a little or left to grow on it's own. Thanks for your help |
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| Here in Texas the birds eat them and deposit the seeds below trees and they do quite well there. I use to dig the plants and find new homes for them. In the Waco area they are like a weed everywhere. I am starting a few seeds again this year. I buy my seeds from the Ethnic food section in our local Grocery Stores, on their spice rack. Cost me $1.44 and I gave a couple friends seeds to plant, I always just plant the whole fruit rather then try my luck seeing if each seed will sprout and they never have needed to be thinned out. Turkey pepper, bird pepper and other names. There is one the has fruit that is about 4 times as large but haven't been able to locate since, may just have to do more research. They are a pretty plant so I am putting them into my front flower bed along with some herbs as ground cover between my flowers, and I live around those yard Nazi's |
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| I grow a variety in Arizona from seed sourced from south Texas. They do great here and I think they have a nice flavor. I just picked over 300 last night and there still are at least that many more green ones on the bush. I bought a Pima Bajo variety native to Mexico that I still have in a pot. Hasn't flowered yet. |
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| I have some wild ones growing in the back yard of my new house. They're fairly common in the wild here in Central Texas. Enough so that it's kind of funny reading a thread with people getting all excited about them. :-) Maybe I should pick some and put the seeds up for trade. If you're interested in other "weed" seeds I've also got some rain lily seeds I collected about a week ago in a vacant lot, and the wild poppies are setting their seeds now in those cool pepper-shaker like seed pods they have. ;-) |
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Hillbilly, You might be using the wrong fertilizer Miricle grow has a very high nitrogen level good for growth but not good for producing peppers try something with a low nitrogen level for a while. Im actually using a rose fertilizer once mine looks ready to start blooming. |
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| Yes Miracle grow used to be 15-30-15 ( which has worked well for me) but they changed it to a very high nitrogen formula. Now I use their 'Bloom Booster' version which is 15-30-15. |
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| I have a 15 year old chilpequin plant that I brought to Arkansas from South Texas about 2 years ago. It is dropping its blooms and not producing. Does anyone have any suggestions. Also I crossed a chilpequin with a jalapeno plant and it is producing about 1 1/4 inch jalapeno shaped peppers that are extremely hot! This plant is also beginning to drop its blooms and not produce. |
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| My husband and I love Chiltepin chilis but there is no way they are going to grow outside in Nebraska. I finally got 3 seeds to germinate and they are now about 10 inches tall. I have them under grow lights for 10 hours a day but now am at a loss. Any ideas for keeping them growing? Pinch them back? fertilize them? I water them when the soil feels dry. I can move them outside for the hot summers but when I tried that a few months ago, the leaves started getting light so I moved them back inside. Think I have a shot at success? Any help will be deeply appreciated. |
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| Sheeplady, I have a buddy that grows chiltepins in Portland OR. It doesn't get as cold as Nebraska, but he still needs to bring them inside in winter. He just trims his a bit (maybe to one foot tall) and sets them in a south-facing window. They get a bit leggy in the winter, but perk right back up in the spring when they go back outside. Next time you put them outside in the summer sun, try putting them in a shaded location. Mine do quite well in the shade of a Coastal Redwood tree, only getting a couple hours of sunlight after 6PM... |
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| It is great news about your friend in Portland. Does he get any chilis? How long does it take to get the chilis? Do they flower first? It sounds like he does not use a grow light with his. This might better duplicate a rest period. Does he fertilize at all? I am amazed at the advice to put them in the shade. My husband remembers seeing them growing in Mexico in dry creek beds. He does not remember the particulars like sun/shade, moisture, etc. |
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| Pequins are soft when ripe and take a long time to ripen. Tepins take forever to ripen. I'm not a fan of either. I still have no ripe tepins mid oct and planted mid march. |
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| I had a few seeds of Chili Petin from West_Teaxs_Peg which I put onto some moist paper in August. It was very late in the season so I was not really expecting much this year and was hoping to overwinter the plants to get an early start next season. The plants came up within 14 days and are now full of pods, albeit still green. The plants have remained small, about a foot and a half high. Joseph z10 |
Here is a link that might be useful: Chocolate tin Chili Petin
RE: Your Experiences with Chiltepin/Chilpequin?
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| Sheeplady, My friend gets peppers every year. They ripen later than mine in Sacramanto; his are still green at this point while mine have been turning red since August. They usually flower in mid spring and start putting out peppers a month later. I believe he uses a time-release fertilizer like Osmocote in spring. Yours may not need as much shade as mine do, but when I was putting them in a more sunny location they didn't do as well (even though I tried to acclimate them gradually) |
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