haha, I started 2,one is black one is green. I also assumed the green one was just a slow starter, they still aren't big enough for me to tell for a fact it's going to stay green... Doesn't matter, I appreciate the seeds and I'm happy with Black Cuban, Twilight, or some really interesting hybrid. I'll be happy to give you updates and photos as the season progresses.

No need for apologies.
Pam

Thanks Pam!

Here's a shot of one of my Cuban cross?

Ottawa: Here is what I got out of the two Twilights and two Black Cubans that I ended up with. Unfortunately, I had just pruned all the blooms, buds and pods from my plants.

This is the first Black Cuban:

Unfortunately, I had just snipped the bloom off this guy but I propped it back on the plant so you can see what the bloom looked like.

Here is a pic showing the height:

Here is the second plant I have labeled as a Black Cuban but it has the greener foliage and is significantly taller like the Twilights.

This shows one of the pods I snipped from this plant earlier today.

Here is the height which is taller than the dark colored BC:

I will post photos of my two Twilights in another post following this one.

Bruce

OK, here are my plants I have labeled as Twilight.

Here is the height on this one.

Here is the second Twilight Plant:

Here are some of the pods that I had snipped from this plant:

And the height of the last Twilight:

Bruce

Ottawa:
It looks to me that the second BC is a cross. It has the greener leaves but still some dark coloring too. It is taller like the TL's but not as tall as the TL's. Then it has the dark colored pod. Seems about half way between both. I gave away another TL and BC. The BC looked normal like the first one above and the TL was like the ones pictured but a bit smaller.

Bruce

Bruce,

Your first Black Cuban (BC) looks to be growing true. The second BC looks wrong for a BC.

Your Twilight's look like they're growing true.

Thanks for posting the update much appreciated!

Ottawa:
I just realized that yesterday, I had taken a photo of the second "hybrid" BC which shows the blooms and pods nicely.

Bruce

Purple flower and purple/black Twilight shaped pod! Nice!

Twilight's put out white flowers and medium purple pods, Cubans put out purple flowers and dark purple/black pods firt. Interesting can't wait for my first buds to flower.

Thanks Bruce.

Yah, I think you are correct that the first cuban is true, the second is a hybrid and the last two are true Twilights.
Bruce

Ottawa....I understand that you don't want to mislead people, but when seeds are donated, I think it should be understood that you have no right to complain. :) You have to be one of the nicest people I have ever had contact with. I (along with MANY others) appreciate the seeds you donated. I know you would not intentionally mis-lead me, so I would understand if something did not grow true. I truly appreciate all you do. Seed donations, wisdom offered, and guidance to idiot newbies such as myself. Thankyou, and please do not lose any sleep over a good dead, such as donating seeds! :)

Yah, I understand the problem as well as anyone. Most who ask for seed for free should assume there is a chance they may not get what they expect. I certainly dont regret the seeds you sent me Ottawa even though they may not all be growing true. They are still cool.

I am growing Sweet Bananas and a couple other varieties for planned use this year. THose I purchased from retail outlets and expect advertised results. I am sure if had asked, dozens of people on this list would have offered me tons of seeds as they are very common varieties.

The seeds Ottawa send me were ornamentals and so far, even if not growing true are showing some great signs of being quite "ornamental".

Bruce

Hey
im a little late on this thread but can ya'll confirm what measures you will be taking this year (after having the possible crosses from last year) to attempt to prevent crossing this go round?

I'm familiar with separation by distance and bagging blooms. I was just curious as to what method you all use and find best in your situation.

I'm personally considering using the bagging method (tulle), and will bag a few branches on a few plants to attempt to obtain some pure seeds.

If I want to isolate peppers, I will use the bag method. Isolation is not really workable unless I give a single plant to someone else that lives a significant distance away to grow out. Most people will say you need anywhere from a 1/4 mile to a full mile to separate plants to ensure isolation. I think that if you have a big enough yard and can get some kind of barrier between plants such as the house, then in my opinion, 100 feet or so would be enough to ensure a reasonable expectation of purity. Crossed pollinated peppers will not matter for that current growing season. Cross pollinated flowers will always grow true to their host plant. It is the seed from a crossed pod that may exhibit traits from either/both parent plants when grown out.
But for me, bagging is my preferred method for ensuring purity.
Bruce

OH, and in reference to Ottowa's Black Cuban cross seeds. He did send me some last year. I grew out three plants and two grew true to the Black Cuban but one did not grow true. So he did likely have crossed seed. That being said, they were all three great plants. And I recently sent out a bunch of Black Cuban seed from one of the plants I grew. It was true to Black Cuban but if it came from seed that had been crossed, it still could have been a cross and grown true. But from what I understand, any offspring from that plant could also exhibit mixed traits still. So that being said, for those I sent Black Cuban and have yet to send, keep in mind there is a better than small chance it is a cross. I did not isolate any seed last year and any seed I sent out and will send out could be a cross. My packs of seed are clearly marked "OP" or "Isolated" depending on how they are grown. Even the pretty Twilight was open pollinated.
Bruce