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Death match?

Posted by alynne 7 (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 17, 14 at 19:12

So today I come home and find these 2 on a pepper leaf fallen into the pot. I know one is a ladybug larvae and the other looks like a potato bug but I've never seen one here before. Each barely moves when I poke with a stick and the larvae seems to be stuck to the leaf by it's rear end.

Was there a battle? Any thoughts? I'm really curious.

Alison


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  • Posted by esox07 4b Wisconsin (My Page) on
    Tue, Jun 17, 14 at 20:11

Those are Godzilla's next two opponents. Due out later this summer.
Bruce


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Oh No! Poor larva is about to get eaten. What is that other thing?!


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At this point, it doesn't matter. It's dead.

Stoney


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Now I'm not sure who is eating whom...


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  • Posted by jutsFL 9b (Orlando) (My Page) on
    Tue, Jun 17, 14 at 20:49

This is way more fun than it should be :D

...my money's on the lady bug larvae!

Jay


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If I wasn't at work right now, I'd be cracking open a beer :p

Stoney


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I'm checking every 30 min or so. I'm routing for the larvae but the other monster has an exoskeleton and those wolverine things. Again, what is it?

Stoney, I'll have a beer for you.


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  • Posted by esox07 4b Wisconsin (My Page) on
    Tue, Jun 17, 14 at 21:09

OK, we should be in round 4 right now, how about an update? Has anyone gotten an 8 count yet?
Bruce


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Not sure what it says about me, but this is the most interesting good thing I've been dealing with for 3 weeks. They are still nose to tail. no one eating the other. Any chance they are different stages of the same bug? Mating?


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Lady bug larva. GOOD THING people buy them for aphid control.


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"Stoney, I'll have a beer for you."

LOL! 3 more hours to go so I can crack one and go out and check my plants for mayhem!

Stoney


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Pepperdave,

I know, I have been babying them for 2 years. That is why I want to know what the other thing is. I've never had something attack them before.

Stoney, I'm sorry, I'm drinking Irish Whiskey. will what work?

Al


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"Stoney, I'm sorry, I'm drinking Irish Whiskey."

I hate you :-)

Stoney


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Sheesh!

Two different life stages of lady beetles. A larva and a pupa.


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they are 2 stages of ladybug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fmfzHLiGh4

Here is a link that might be useful: life cycle video


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  • Posted by esox07 4b Wisconsin (My Page) on
    Wed, Jun 18, 14 at 0:39

Oh, crap, I thought we were going to witness some natural carnage. Now we find it is probably just bug sex.
Bruce


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Interesting, but I think Jean already said so much, to me it looks like a ladybug larva and a ladybug pupa.
Pam


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Not sure if one will eat the other. As opposed to lacewing larvae.. which ARE canabilistic.

Kevin


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Smokemaster - thank you for the video. I have never seen the pupa stage before. The larva did not survive. Was all shriveled up tonight when I got home. I tucked the pupa back in the plant in a shady spot. A little anticlimactic, but I learned and was entertained.

Is the pupa dormant or did it suck the guts out of the larva?


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The pupa doesn't eat nor does it attack.
It is the intermediate stage between a larva and the adult.
If the pupa wasn't damaged, it will split down the back and an adult lady beetle will step out.

See this
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/NE/convergent_lady_beetle.html

Here is a link that might be useful: lady beetle life cycle in photos


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the pupa looks kinda translucent, are you sure it hasn't left? When I find them I will brush them lightly to see if they are empty. I wonder what killed the larvae, poor baby.
Pam


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I don't think(correct me if I'm wrong jean001) the larva died. I think it's just ready to move onto pupal stage.

Kevin


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Well, these are the combatants Thurs. evening. The larva is totally desiccated. If that is it changing into a pupa I will be amazed. I don't think the pupa has "hatched" yet. No splits on the back and seems solid.

If you look at the first 3 pics, the larva moved to the pupa. I didn't touch them. Just watched. Curious...


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The big question is: Are ladybugs, at any stage, cannibalistic !?


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DM,
from what I've read they are very cannibalistic. Will eat anything available. The pupa hasn't changed. I pull it out of the pot to water and then put it back. We will see.


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The full cycle


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