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how to get rid of pill bugs??

Posted by rema z7tx (My Page) on
Fri, Apr 13, 07 at 16:45

pill bugs are eating away all my bulbs,my iris and chrysanthemum plants.can somebody tell me how to get rid of them??
rema


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RE: how to get rid of pill bugs??

Usually the diet of pill bugs, sow bugs, wood lice, potato bugs, and the numerous other names these crustaceans go by is decaying vegetative waste not live plant tissue. They will, however, eat live plant tissue if there is not enough other food available, so rather than kill these normally beneficial crustaceans put down the proper food source for them and they will help improve your soil instead of destroying your garden.


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Feeding the pillbugs?

Please know that moist, organic-y soils will contain some of these isopods. They are an important part of the ecosystem. However, an overpopulation can and will lead to the damage of our plants. Make sure, first of all, that it is the sowbugs doing the damage and not something else.

These critters require very moist conditions in which to thrive, so let's see what you can do to alter their environment, first. Is your mulch layer too heavy? Are you watering or irrigating too frequently? Has it been raining like crazy in your location?

It's one of those situations when you can make some slight physical adjustments to the site, and these little guys might go elsewhere.


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I have raised beds with rich mulch. I am completely overwhelmed with pill bugs. My biggest FRUSTRATION right now is that I can't start any bean plants, b/c by the time the seedling comes up, it has been stripped of its two starting leaves, often leaving only a stem. I can see the pill bugs in the morning absolutely covering the rising seedling. by the time it breaks the surface very little or nothing remains. We are not talking about a few pill bugs that can be handpicked. I have actually covered this area with diatomaceous earth and I watch the pill bugs walk right over it.

As for the questions of moisture and conditions, it is a very rich mulch in a raised bed, and I am in so. cal. so we are by no means overly moist.


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Diatomaceous earth is not a repellant and you want the insects (or crustaceans in this case) to walk over it. If they pick up enough of the dust, it will wear away their cuticle and they dehydrate and die. If you use this product the results will be seen several days later.


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Let me add this: make sure that you are using the correct grade of DE. It should be food or horticultural grade, never the DE that is used in pool filters. It won't work and it's FAR more hazardous to your health.

Use the DE generously, even mixing it into the soil. DE does not dissolve in water.


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A mulch of sand is very disagreeable to pill bugs. They don't like sand because they can dry out and die in it. Sand is also disagreeable to slugs and snails.

MM


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thanks. I am using DE that I got from a garden supply house. part of the problem is that they are getting the seedlings just before they emerge from the surface as well. I will just keep planting seeds and adding DE.


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I used slug bait on all my gardens and I think they had a big impact on the pillbugs. I was also nearly overcome with them but since putting down a heavy layer of Sluggo, they are gone and I find dead ones here and there. It had to be them eating the Sluggo too because I was putting down little mini-walls of the pellets for awhile and by morning they'd be gone.


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lately i find a lot of pill bugs under rocks, in my basement, and also i was planting tomato's and before they were in a pot and when i looked there was so many of them. After reading all the facts and hints, it looks like they are actually good for the soil. But everyday i find those pill bugs, Lately it was raining a lot where i live (North-NJ), so what steps should i take to protect my plants from pill bugs? I read from the 1st response to put down some food for them, but what kind of food, like rotten, old food?


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Feeding them would have to be the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. That would bring in more and breed more so unless you intend on feeding them forever...well that's just stupid! As if gardening isn't tough enough some idiot wants to make it tougher. Kill them all before they eat your plants. There's plenty of decaying material in my garden and they prefer my plants. Diatomaceous earth will do the trick but takes a little time. Good luck!


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If sand killed pill bugs I would not have any since my soil is sand, but it does not and I do, lots. The pill bugs, sow bugs, wood lice, do not do any harm to my plants since they live on decaying organic matter, not living plants, although it would be nice if they would eat some of the "weeds" on occassion.
A well mulched garden is the perfect breeding ground for these crustaceans, cool, moist, with ample amounts of food available. If you see pill bugs, sow bugs, wood lice, eating away on living plants it is because they are cleaning up after something else that damaged those plants.


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I'd say this looks a little suspicious to me

rolley polleys eat plants.

That was one of my best celocia. They'll have to climb higher for the giant reds.


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I recently tried Sluggo Plus and it seems to have drastically reduced my pill bug population. Actually, I tried to find a pill bug the other day to show my father and I couldn't even locate one. Given the massive amount of pill bugs I had before using Sluggo Plus, I was completely amazed.


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deadheader thanks for the heads up. It's obvious to me that they will eat healthy plants even when there is plenty of decaying matter around. The pillbug pictured above is at least 6" above the ground where there is plenty of rich soil that contains lots of decaying matter.
kimmsr which is it sand or rich soil that your plants are in?


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Caution advised regarding Sluggo Plus. One of the active ingredients is Spinosad and per wiki is dangerous to honeybees.

"However, it is highly toxic to bees (honey bee LC50 = 11.5 ppm) and is highly toxic to oysters and other marine mollusks. Applications to areas where bees are actively foraging should be avoided." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinosad


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That photo is a fake, isn't it? I have never seen a pillbug climb a plant in my life! They don't even like the sun! They hide under rocks and under wet leaves.

If you really do have a pillbug problem (honestly, if you do I assume they are some invasive Asian pillbug, since this is NOT the behavior of a normal one), I'd start a small compost pile, collect the Rolly-Pollys and put them in it.

Rolly-Polly-Posting!!!


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That photo is a fake, isn't it? I have never seen a pillbug climb a plant in my life!

Why would you think the photo is fake? I took it in my flower garden where pillbugs were eating my plants. I was surprised to see it that high too. Save the photo and blow it up if you think it's fake.


They don't even like the sun! They hide under rocks and under wet leaves.

Why did I see hundreds of them on top of the soil then?
I suspect they sleep and mate under cover!
I remedied the problem by letting the soil dry out some.


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Right now I have hundreds of pill bugs in my flower beds and garden. They are not decaying and I have plenty of property with grazing aplenty for the dreaded pillbugs. When I get up before the sun is high and there is still shade the pillbugs are on top of the soil. Later in the day they are around the base of my plants eating away to their hearts content. I have had two years of really bad infestation for whatever reason but the bugs "do" eat your plants and veggies! I have yet to find a non-harmful way to get rid of these pests and their damage is worse than the good they do. I want the little buggers gone.


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Try food grade diatomaceous earth. You can get it at Lowes in the insecticide area.


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Here's an idea that works.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pillbug Control


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These bugs are climbing my tomatoe plants to get into the ones that are just starting to ripen. I have been waiting for my first on to turn red, it has been a nice pink. finally turned and when I picked it there was a hole in it, when I looked there was a pill bug in there. I heard tuna cans with beer or just water in the planted even with the ground will capture and kill them. Going to give it a try.


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The link below might be of some interest to those that want to know about these Isopods, good information not myths. For those that wish to eliminate pill bugs from the garden simply remove anything that can create a cool, moist environment for them to live and grow in.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pill Bugs


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I can tell everyone on here that the pill bugs I have prefer live plants to decaying matter. They have destroyed our Strawberry patch if the slugs were not bad enough the pill bugs are worse. They have now moved on to our tomatoes, they don't touch the plant its self just the fruit. How do you safely get rid of them in a vegatable garden?


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To the person who says rolly pollies dont climb plants,,, HAHAHAHAHAHA!! They are in my garden by the thousands, killing seedlings, and full grown plants! The pic is of a large pumpkin plant. I could not figure out what was wrong with my fully grown, and flowering potato plants until I removed the mulch,, hundreds of pillbugs in my potato beds chewing on the stems below the mulch, slowly killing the plants. They will burrow into the ground around a small stem and eat until the seedling falls over, they will crawl all over a plant eating leaves and stems, I have heard they will also eat the roots. To the naysayers who ignorantly say pillbugs eat only dead material,,, get outta bed before noon and check your garden!


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Spinosad aka Sluggo-Plus! Pill bugs and sowbugs WILL eat and actually ENJOY eating live plant "matter" aka, plants with exception of basil. Can online order it from HDepot around here: 5 lbs. will take care of 5000 sq. feet. Of course it must be reapplied but, just to be clear, as if these photos aren't clear enough, they'll destroy a garden, esp. if we mulch. I really like to mulch. If Sluggo-Plus ever fails me, am going to the Sevin: those things took down 2 zuke and a squash plant one afternoon and night last summer, were headed for more when they . . . perished.


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Ashcards, what's that metal thing? Looks like they've got a perfect home in there, safe from predators.

Hi Annie, welcome to Gardenweb!

I don't find these critters to be abundant enough to be a problem. Yes, they like to live in leaf litter and mulch, but they must be pretty tasty to birds and anoles which would and apparently do eat them.

Applying any kind of chemicals can create even more of an imbalance in your garden if the chemicals are also harmful to benefical predators, which they usually are. Rushing to chemicals every time a pest is sited eliminates the food source that may have attracted whatever would like to eat it. Having a little patience about that the first few years of starting a garden can pay off heavily in the future, when enough beneficials have been established to thwart infestations of pests.

If we're talking about a scale as small as 3 plants, picking the pill bugs off (or whatever pest is big enough to do so,) and throwing them into the lawn for the birds should help keep their numbers down until birds or other predators realize that food source is there. They could also be smushed, or cut in half with scissors to just kill them.

If one's going to apply stuff like that to food, that eliminates the benefit of growing it at home. I'd prefer to eat food that hasn't had any of that stuff on/near it, but if I do, I'd prefer to just buy it at the store. Any chemicals would have been applied by pros at the correct time in the recommended amounts, costs about the same, so much less effort. I see no reason to duplicate corporate type agriculture in my own yard.


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While I agree that rushing to chemical controls is never a good idea, I can say from experience that pill bugs and sow bugs can be incredibly destructive. One thing that seems to be helping me is moving away from mulching. I've been a devout garden mulcher for a decade (primarily chopped oak leaves), and, as a consequence, I've been providing prime year-round habitat for pill bugs, sows bugs, slugs, and earwigs in particular. I still have to resort to Sluggo Plus on occasion, but, so far at least, forgoing the mulch does seem to be helping.


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I have had a pillbug infestation in my raised beds since year 2 of building them (that means last year and this year I've had problem pillbugs). I must confess because of my frustration with them I'm a bit tired of reading that they don't eat healthy plants. I am another one who knows for a fact they do. Maybe it's only when you have an infestation that there is a problem and those who think they eat only decayed or unhealthy plants have never experienced an infestation.

I also live in Socal and I am inland in Temecula.

I have never resorted to chemicals in my organic garden and even the pillbug won't drive me to it.

I have done 4 things to solve my problem and I highly recommend 3 of them. The first I thank Laura from the Temecula Valley Garden Club for. For plants like peas and beans where you are only planting a few of them, once you plant the seed directly, protect it by placing about a 3" to 4" tall tube cut from a plastic bottle around the seed. I don't know why this works like a charm--you would think the little buggers would just attack the plant easily from underneath, but they don't. I only push the tube in far enough so it won't get blown over by the wind--maybe 1/2 inch at most. You can even use a cardboard toilet paper tube if you want. Those get soggy but they work.

For plants like radishes or beets, or anything that you plant more of and closer together, this isn't so practical. So before you are ready to plant, prepare the bed using the beer trick. Pillbugs just love beer! (I thank my husband who said, "Let's try it!"--I hadn't seen it recommended anywhere at the time). You can use an empty can but I bought small tuna-can sized glass storage containers at the dollar store since they are more attractive and I can re-use them forever.

Bury them up to the top in your empty bed, one per square foot, and fill them with beer. make sure you push the soil up next to the rim all around so the little crusty critters can get access. You will collect dozens of pillbugs in each container effortlessly and feel confident about planting your seeds or tender seedlings.

Pillbugs don't seem to travel very far from their home spot which is why the beer needs to be placed right where you're going to plant. If you wait til you plant and put the beer in the square foot beside where the plants are, it won't work. That's why I do it before I plant. Buy the cheapest beer you can find and you don't have to fill the containers. I've even captured the critters in containers where the beer had already evaporated (they can't climb the container side once they're in). They just love the smell. Just refill the containers each time you empty them and you will capture dozens more per container if you are battling an infestation like I am.

Third, I always make sure to dry out the sections of bed after I have harvested my plants. They need water to survive. Thanks to this forum for that trick.

Fourth, I have a pillbug-designated eviction spoon I keep handy to pick up any that I see crawling around while I'm gardening. I thank my own desperation to save my plants for that. I used to throw them in the beer but now I crush the ones I catch because I feel better about making their death quick and painless. I can't help it about the ones that find the beer on their own or die of dehydration. After all, I am growing the produce for us, not them.

This fourth method was my main method of control last spring before I learned of the other methods, but it literally took HOURS of my time each morning for many days in a row because I had SO MANY pillbugs to destroy. It was awful!

Also, if you see a medium-sized spider with a white abdomen and red front section (I don't know spider physiology), count your blessings. I read that they eat pillbugs. I have seen 2 of them.

My gardens are completely enclosed with a wood and hardware cloth construction because of all the wildlife on our property, so the birds can't feast on our pillbugs. Do lizards eat them?

One more thing. I have to tell the non-believer pillbug advocates that once I have my pillbug population under control, I have healthy, producing plants. No other predators are getting them. Pillbugs adore my radishes, CORN (they absolutely love), beets, LETTUCE, spinach, snap peas, BEANS and TURNIPS in particular. In the fall I never even got to see the first sign of even ONE lettuce or turnip seedling. They were DONE before I reached the garden. They're a little slower with the radishes. They eat them for a longer period of growing time.

I wish I didn't have to destroy them. I like them and would love it if they would just stick to cleaning up the soil and composting for me! But they are hungry and they love my good, healthy food! They can't even wait until there is more and enough for both of us!


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Im new to gardening and had a lot of trouble with these pill bugs. I found like a million of those annoying little pests in my garden bed. Thanks, to the tips and advice I have read, I have found that the beer method works!!! I tried looking up videos YouTube, no luck sooooo I'm going to make a video on how to kill pill bugs naturally using the beer method, and hopefully help others:)!!!!


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Hi CoSho, welcome to Gardenweb! Bless you for wanting to help. Good luck!


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I wonder if it is different species of pillbug, sowbug, woodlice that eat living things and that may explain our difference of experience. I have experience with pillbugs eating plants and roots. At first I thought it was snails. I live in the woods and we see snails and shells all the time. But there were no snail trails in the garden. Then I remembered seeing lots of pillbugs and the year my flower baskets 15 feet off the ground were completely killed. When I gave up and turned them out on the compost heap the baskets had been half full, no lie, of pillbugs. I am assuming I brought them from the nursery in the soil the plants were growing in. I didn't even try to battle those. I had lost.
To get rid of my current bunch I first put wood ashes around my pansies that were disappearing--I thought someone was stealing them--gone overnight. Then I saw some with holes so started on the prowl. My pansies have quit disappearing and seem to be holding their own in the chewing division but I found many pillbugs in one spot of soil from the nursery where they are congregated all day. I put wood ash on half of that and they left that alone too. Now I am trying tobacco tea as a systemic pest deterrent. They tell me you have to replace the ash after a rain. I think it will be easier to water once in a while with tobacco tea if it works. You can see in the picture they are not on the large brown tobacco leaf and this is day two of tobacco tea. There were many more, enough to cover the ground in that spot in previous days. My whole garden is rife with the isopods and I have no way to get rid of them because of the woods on all sides. I will just have to protect the garden and also look for plants that they avoid. I bought impatiens today because the snails don't eat those I am told. So far I have not found a list of pillbug safe plants because so many of you think they don't eat living things. Thanks to all who post here. It is a great wealth of information.


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An addendum to my above comment: I am in Ohio.
One thing I did not discuss above is that diatomaceous earth will kill all the earthworms as well as other soft bodied "good" soil constituents. We have to be very careful in our choice of pest controls, and that brings me to a correction of my own comment:
The tobacco tea may not be the best thing for vegetable gardens since the intention is that the plants will take up the tobacco with the water. But wood ash used to be the source of potash that is in fertilizer. Use with caution, but I don't think a little bit spread around plants to keep the isopods from walking there will be harmful. Explanation from Oregon Extension: "If used judiciously, wood ash can be used to repel insects, slugs and snails, because it draws water from invertebrates' bodies. Sprinkle ash around the base of your plants to discourage surface feeding pests. But once ash gets wet, it loses its deterring properties. Continual use of ash in this way may increase the soil pH too much, or accumulate high salt levels harmful to plants."--
http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/wood-ash-can-be-useful-yard -if-used-caution
Hopefully the isopods will move on before harm comes to the soil. Maybe in years there are not infestations we can let the soil rest or even improve it organically.


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An addendum to my above comment: I am in Ohio.
The tobacco tea may not be the best thing for vegetable gardens since it is possible the plants will take up the tobacco with the water. I am not sure about that. But wood ash used to be the source of potash that is in fertilizer. Use with caution, but I don't think a little bit spread around plants to keep the isopods from walking there will be harmful. Explanation from Oregon Extension: "If used judiciously, wood ash can be used to repel insects, slugs and snails, because it draws water from invertebrates' bodies. Sprinkle ash around the base of your plants to discourage surface feeding pests. But once ash gets wet, it loses its deterring properties. Continual use of ash in this way may increase the soil pH too much, or accumulate high salt levels harmful to plants."--
http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/wood-ash-can-be-useful-yard -if-used-caution


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