Here's a few pics, there are a few getting substantial looking. When do I move them up a size?

Mostly Mardi Gras Seedlings:

Another angle:

And these two are from you Emily, look how well they've done!! And they were literally wilted little nothings when I got home from my trip.

Congrats on your Kimo Kim, you'll have to let me live vicariously through you since I gave mine away. (still shaking my head on that one, why didn't I give her my HAusten white which was a freebie??)

Earlier today I did a fairly significant root pruning on a large tree, my back is aching. It just suddenly wasn't doing well, growing large blooms but unable to open. Then some leaves started dropping, I got worried about the soil quality and went at it. YIKES. I am afraid and hoping it thrives.

Hope all of you are well today!
Wendy

I sprayed the Spinosad for the first time last week and it seems to have given them a bit of relief - and although I can still see thrips on 3 established plants I have, I don't see any of the tan crawly flea looking things I saw before. (I don't have a clue what those are). It's ok to spray it once a week so I'll do it again today or tomorrow.

I have neem oil and ProTekt on the way, I figure I can get the numbers down and then start using that more as a repellent / strengthener.

Wendy, glad to see your seedlings doing so well! They are tough little buggers, aren't they?! I finally planted the Adenium seeds you sent me, I planted them on last Tue or Wed though and they haven't done anything so I probably screwed those up. I MUST GROW ADENIUMS NOW. Once I started reading about and looking at them, I LOVE them - and no wonder, they are related to plumies! HA! So I need some help, I'll be re-reading the Adenium forums today. How did yours do?

My cuttings are all doing very well - I really need to post some pictures! Even my Kimi Beauty and big mystery have already clawed and are starting little leaves - they did that very fast - I wonder if it's because they were bigger? I also got a very generous surprise bonus - I won a contest a while back and won a cutting of Gina (swoon!) and Maui Beauty - they arrived, along with a Gloria Schmidt and a Loretta!

Let us know how the root pruning does.

Kim, how are all of your cuttings?

First I will start off with an update on my seedlings. One of my vera cruz rose seedlings is already 6 inches tall. I kid you not. It is a very leggy seedling. My kaleinani seedlings are doing alright, one of them have red-ish peach-ish limbs on the leaves. First time for that for me.

Now my cuttings. I lost Vanda Ruffles, the branches became too soft (not mushy but very flexible) to recover. The mystery beast is still going strong and being beastly. Maui Beauty has lost its buds but to the plus size of that, it is producing more leaves now. Key West Red is still chuggin', but slowly. Bill is still chuggin' too, I think another leaf will open soon. Penang Peach has an inflo! It's sorta deformed but that's my problem due to it's spill it took 1 month ago. So far I can see teeny tiny 2 buds on it. Thumberlina has 6 leaves about 4-6 inches long. Kimo has 2 leaves so far since potting it up. I cannot wait for an inflo and blooms. I was just marveling over kimo bloom pictures the other day! *swoon* Inca Gold, there isn't much noticeable yet but I do have another small leaf opening on it. ProudMamaSD, here is a question for you since you own an Inca Gold too. Does yours take or want more water than your others? The reason I ask this is because it has some wrinkles (still firm) an I notice that after I gave it a drink (watered it one week before the second watering), the next day I went to check on it, some of the wrinkles were gone. I thought maybe it wanted more water since we've had several days in the mid to high 80s but was afraid to water it to much.

An another confession.... I bought/won a neon light cutting from Jim Little on ebay. *blushes* I won't be able to get anymore but I'd love to add celadine to my collection but I'm maxed out on $$$. *sniff*

Next week starting friday we're suppose to have temps in the 80s and 90s. I've been leavin' them outside for the past couple days since the temps were in the high 50s to low 60s at night time.

I will try to take update pictures Wednesday since it's gonna be sunny that day. :)

I'm feeling your pain on the DR's, these are tricky creatures. Kim, didn't you get DR seeds to germinate?? Tell all! Mine haven't done anything, but in all honesty I've not been diligent with them. My heat lamp burnt out and it hasn't been replaced, then I accidentally flooded them.... ugh. So yes, I too feel the need to perservere. Right now I've got my hands full, and can't dedicate the time to learn about these tricky little plants. I have an adult DR which I wasn't giving nearly enough water too- that's been corrected and now I have beautiful blooms. :o)

Kim, I think you are on to something with the IG, I just watered mine yesterday and it was the only one that needed a watering, it seems to be very thirsty. Often. I water mine every week, if I fail to do it the leaves get soft right away.
Huge bummer about your VR, you are so mature about it, I tend to continue to beat a dead horse when it comes to these trees, lol. Happily, you've got some really strong cuttings in your lot that are giving you something to be excited about. I can't wait to see what my mystery turns out to be! I need to google neon light (but maybe I shouldn't, lol) I' ve never heard of it. All my JL cuttings are rooting in under 3 weeks! Very exciting. I have been trying to keep off of craigslist and ebay. Luckily I've been too busy.

So I need to vent. I am so disappointed with a cutting I rec'd from BBB a few months back. It is by definition an ugly duckling, but I'm afraid there may never been a swan in this cuttings future. It is Nassau, and I wanted it so badly. And yet they chose to send me this long slender stick. It is 2 feet long, skinny, and its got nothing going on. I guess that is a risk you take when you order online, but I am taking it personally. Like they chose the worst ever cutting for me cause I didn't want it grafted..... this is ridiculous, I know, but I just had to get it off my chest. I should just be thankful that it is healthy and growing... (taller and straighter everyday, lol).

Night everyone!
Wendy

I wonder if anyone else who has an Inca Gold could elaborate a little more on how much water it wants or needs. Mine is rooted but I'm afraid I will give it too much water. Perhaps the black pot is making it hotter and drying it out thus making it get wrinkles because its thirsty? I checked the soil an it wasn't bone dry. When I water them I use a clear plastic throw a way cup and give them usually a half glass of water each watering. Should I be watering the rooted ones more, say 1 full glass of water each week?

Glad you are home Wendy!!! We missed you!!! : )
Your cuttiings look great

Enily... your seedlings look healthy too!Great job!!!

Kim, Each variety has its own needs... i do agree on that. I would water when they need it . When they are dry, water enough that the mix is watered properly...not judy a sip or two of a cup here and there. let then get wet and fertilize. let the excess drain from the holes, then let then dry out again. you won't hurt these trees especailly if they are in a fast drainng mix. I bet you will see be a big jump in leaves too!!!! just like i left a message to Mindy. The trees like to be watered well, then we keep the water away until they dry out again. you wont hurt then either, You know what you are doing... give them some warer and the fertilize...i bet you will see them really grow with you trees. I bet you will be watching them alttle more, becuse some like more water then thers.. my divine is the one tree at my house that really likes alot of water.. Go Figure!!!

Hope this helps.

Take care ladies!!! Nice to see everyone!!! : )
Laura

Wendy, did BBB try to get you to get a grafted one? If so, and you aren't happy with your purchase, I would at least nicely ask them about it, let them know you're disappointed...couldn't hurt...that sucks. A lot of online sites don't let you choose the number of tips. I guess due to inventory, but I don't feel very comfortable with that.

My cuttings are rooting and I think they're taking a bit longer because of the inflos. But as long as they're rooting that's good! I may cut some of the inflos off when they get long enough to if the plants are still not getting good sized leaves. Here are some pics of my cuttings.

Kaneohe Sunburst - ahead of the game, because no inflo I think. I don't know what the dark area on the leaf is - from when I sprayed the Spinosad maybe? Ah well, it's fine now.

Kimo - getting there - I can't tell if this has 2 or 3 inflos coming:

Kimi Beauty - she's really ahead of the game in that I potted her AFTER the ones in my original group and she's already doing this. I love her <3

My mystery inflo looking awesome - really pink / red, I can't wait!!! What is it? What is it??? (Oh, and don't mind gorgeous there in the background LOL!)

Pauahi Alii:

2 tip mystery clawing / starting leaves. This one was started at the same time as the Kimi Beauty. There was some sap on the leaves so I'm sure the bugs are chomping it - need to spray tonight.

Penang Peach and Jeannie Cecile:

And my 4 new cuttings a very nice lady sent me. Left to right - Maui Beauty, Loretta, Gina, Gloria Schmidt.

We're getting there!

Seedling 1:

Seedling 2. This one is really cool, it's got very tight branching, very compact and lot's of red in it:

Another angle of seedling 2 because it was hard to see between all those crazy branches!

And the 3rd - not quite as impressive but still doing it.

Now for the Moragne 93's that are doing it. Not as much as the IR's.
Seedling 1

Seedling 2

And see the thrip damage?!

Seedling 3, looking a little gimpy!

Your seedlings are incredible looking, and unique. I'm not having that kind of branching, that's amazing. Are you fertilizing, with what, how often? We've been having unseasonal heat and sunshine here which has been a blessing for my trees. The big one I planted up front with all the inflos is really beginning to take off, and my seeds seem to be stronger for it. I fertilized them yesterday, still not full strength (I'm scared) and am hoping to get more growth. (height)

Alright everyone, time to go enjoy the sunshine while my little guy slumbers. :o)

Thumberlina -- she has grew a few leaves in the past week

Penang Peach -- growing some leaves an info

Key West Red -- still practually the same

Bill Moragne -- second leaf should open any day now

Maui Beauty -- since the inflo buds fell off the leaves have been growing, still have some wrinkles but I feel its firming up some

Mystery -- still beastly and the biggest

Inca Gold -- inflos growing, getting new leaves, but still have a few wrinkles but still firm

Kimo -- got 2 leaves, 3rd opening any day. With this one I noticed the leaves are rounded.

Vera Cruz Rose Seedlings -- one is 6 inches tall and working on it's 4th leaf

Kahleinani -- smaller, perhaps a compact type?

More seeds & a new celadine seedling

Kim,

Your trees look wonderful. You have alot of beauties there!! Congratulations!!

Watch out for Andrew... He is on the "hunt" for a Bill Moragne. If he see's that you have one, he just might pull the "Plumeria Police " badge on you and take them into custody.. LOL He really wants one... Put it in the back yard..LMAO!!!

Laura

My oddly branching seedlings could be due to the thrips, Jen had mentioned that, but the IR's are doing it so much, I just don't know. It's really weird though because those and the Moragne 93's are the only ones doing it so if it were from thrips I would think more of them be doing it?!

I sprayed them with Spinosad again last night - I can see them trying to grow faster and with normal looking leaves when they get some relief from the bugs. I had to put my Mardi Gras out of their misery. I still have some seeds left so I may try again, the MG's are so beautiful.

Here's a pic of my youngest batch of seedlings. If you look on the next to the last row on the right, one up from the bottom, that one has 2 leaves that didn't separate.

Kim, your plants are looking so good!!! That's funny, your Kimo cutting is about the same shape as mine! Your seedling looks good too, and I think VCR is a pretty vigorous grower / tall? The seedlings really do show individual traits right out of the starting gate.

Minderalla - great job!!! Woo-hoo on your germination!! What variety is that one?

Stevenwayne - I think Kim and I are possibly just getting lucky with inflos in that our cuttings were probably going to do this on the mama tree before they were cut and now when rooting they're just pushing them out. How old is your plumie? How much heat and sun are you able to give it? Those are huge factors also.

Laura, I also really love the Cindy Schmidt, I think Wendy has one of those. Very unique and colorful flower. In a few years I'll trade you cuttings - deal?! LOL!!!!!

Emily, amazing branching on those seedlings! When they're bigger you may want to selectively pinch a few side branches off to give the others a boost. Your cuttings are looking fantastic!

Kim, Veracruz is a tall cultivar and so is Kaleinani, tho I believe Kaleinani has slender branches, too. Your cuttings are looking good; I wouldn't worry about KWR. You can see from how close together the old leaf scars are that it's a slow grower. You're doing terrifically for being in a nothern zone!

elucas101, I agree too. The inflos were probably in the works while the branches were growing on the mother tree. We just got lucky. In total, I have 3 inflos on 3 different tress. I forgot to mention my other mystery one that I have sitting beside my hibiscus plant has one coming too.

jandey, Thanks for reassuring me about KWR. What I don't think people knows is that where I'm at, we actually do get a pretty warm summer. Some days are in the mid almost high 90s and possibly once an a while we'll have a day in the 100's.

Any who, I'm expecting my neon light cutting any day now. Hopefully the mailman will bring it today.

Neon Lights from Jim Little

Kim, your seedlings are tall! So excited your new cutting has arrived.... but then sad cause that's the last of the season, or for now. ;o) I'll admit I've been at the grocery store and thought to myself, "If I don't buy these 2 bottles of wine can I order a cutting instead"?
Awesome flowers in your future! I was thinking the same thing about the Bill Moragne, lol. Congrats on your rooting success, you are a pro.

Minderella-hooray!!! So exciting to get that first bit of 'action' enjoy it only gets better. If you look at the first "Hardy Seeds" thread you will see how bad Emily and I were, poking and prodding our seedlings every night- hard not to. But it is really fun with the seeds, they change and grow so fast, I enjoy growing them. :o)

Jen, where did you learn so much? I am glad you shared the tip about pinching off growth, certainly makes sense but I wouldn't have thought to do that.

With regards to my ugly ducking stick, it was a rooted Nassau. I ordered it right after I scorched my Kauka Wilder cutting and was feeling like I'd never root anything. If I only had a crystal ball, lol! Perhaps they didn't have many rooted ones to choose from? I didn't call or make mention of it, I think living where I do there really is no reason for me to ever order cuttings, I will really try in the future to seek out local merchants, or wait for PSA sales. (don't I sound serious, just wait until I get that NEED for one of the trees on my list).

HA, ok all, until next time. :o)

Wendy

Lets see, I have Maui Beauty, 2 Mystery's, Penang Peach, Thumberlina, Bill Moragne, Key West Red, Kimo, Inca Gold, Key West Red, Neon Lights, plus 2 Vera Cruz Rose seedlings, 2 Kaleinani seedlings, an a few more seeds I planted a few days ago -- so that makes 11 cuttings/rooted ones, & 5 seedlings for me. Since having these flowers, I'd love to own a nursery. Wouldn't that be fun? I will try to do a family photo tomorrow, right now I'm sweating out the wazoo from this heat. It's 86 right now and suppose to be 90 friday, 95 saturday, and 94 sunday. I smell a hot 3 day date with the air conditioner lol. ;)

I guess this heat is making me delirious lol.

I believe it was Bill here who said that if your trunk sprouts more than about 4 branches after being pruned you should cut back to the strongest three or four because the plumie couldn't support more than that, at least not vigorously. Seems like that makes sense for too many branches on a seedling, plus it gives you an opportunity to shape its future form into something balanced and pleasing to you.

Btw, I love your family photo! That's a good variety of heights and shapes. How did you get all those babies to sit still so long on the couch? :)

Kim, your newest looks good. You guys are killing me with all your great new cuttings! I can't get anything now because I'm headed to JJ's soon and I have the PSA sale shortly afterward. Must...resist...temptations...

Emily- apparently I have a dysfunctional family, look at your orderly group. Just beautiful! I love it.

I closely examined my seedlings today and it appears that 2 of mine have branches, 1 each. Neat.

Now girls, are you ready to fess up? What time frame did you acquire those trees in??

Now here comes the confessional.... Although I was SATISFIED and very happy with my family... I blame Andrew78... everyone is talking about new trees, and the excitement....so I went to home depot and bought two JJ trees: Divine & Whirlwind. :D I'm so happy with them, they are beauties!! Divine has 10 tips and Whirlwind has 6. Heaven help me, for I am unstoppable.

Whirlwind:

Divine

Maybe instead of blaming everyone here, I should blame my husband who is out of town for 5 days. ;o)

I've never heard of Pro-Tekt. What does it do for the plants?

The Pro-tekt is probably a good idea for Emily, as her plants are all under attack. Around Austin the only places I found that have it are the hydroponics stores.

Emily, how'd that DR sneak in there? I found several at my local HEB the other day in pink, red and white. Of course, one found its way into my cart--for my mom! Really.

I really wanted Inca Gold and Divine after hearing so many good things about them. I was excited I found both there!

Hi Laura,
You crack me up! Going to dig out that badge now...LOL! Seriously I am going to get commited to the mental hospital any day now. Now I will have 2 Waimea plumerias, possibly the Bill M(not sure if I want to win that bid now!), and I just got that JJ Rhonda from Sonia!! WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME!? Maybe I need to take a little vaca from this forum...NEVER!

At last count, I had 43 outside, and still have around 7 that are rooted/established plumeria that I have to get outdoors, the Rhonda I just got from Sonia, the 3 cuttings from Hetty, the 3 Lani cuttings, and 3 on the way! OMG whats that 60!

Hey Kim,
I'm on my way to get your Bill M...WATCH OUT! LMAO! No, I would NEVER steal another's plumeria...Laura LOVES to tease me but I know it's all in good fun.

I have read many heart wrenching stories of people here that have lost entire trees, cuttings, smaller plumerias...HOW CAN YOU FEEL GOOD WITH YOURSELF DOING THAT? All I can say is I believe in Karma and these people will get pay back in one form or another!!

You rooted your Bill M? That gives me some hope if I do get an unrooted cutting.

Take care everyone, and enjoy your holiday safely! Going to go check on my cuttings that are starting to root.

Andrew

I'm currently in the process of rooting it. It's been rooting since April 24-25th I think. So far it has 2 leaves, and the 3rd should be opening soon. I'm hoping this 80-95 degree weather will help benefit the rooting process. I just checked BBB and they don't have any cuttings listed anymore, was gonna mention them to you but I guess that's out of the works. Have you tried JL cutting on ebay? I seen he had one. Their cuttings are nice and plump, I just received one from them the other day. ;)

Ps. You can always send me some of your cuttings if you think you're getting out numbered lol. *wink wink* j/k

And K2fl, GREAT score on those 2 plants - confession taken and now your conscience is free and clear LOL!!! I can't believe the low, multi branching you guys are getting on those JJ's cuttings!!!

Jen, don't you get a slightly panicky feeling thinking about having JJ's plants here at HD??? I would be in a plumie frenzy of epic proportions and I fear no one could stop me. I snuck that DR in from WalMart, LOL! Each location has a few, some grafted and some non-grafted for $13.88. They are in varying condition. Since I read your post I looked at our HEB and there weren't any DR's there - can you tell me which one you go to and how much they were?!! OH, and I finally got some ProTekt, ordered it on Amazon. Thanks everyone for the recommendation, it sounds like it will be a huge benefit. Kim, it makes your plants stronger and more resilient (it will help mine resist bug damage) and maybe some other benefits I'm too tired to remember right now. If I'm remembering correctly I think I can mix it with neem as my emulsifier?

Andrew, your yard looks looks like a tropical oasis, just gorgeous! You're doing something really right to keep those beauties alive! Maybe you and Kim could work out a timeshare on the Bill Moragne?! LOL!!! (as Kim makes horrified face)! HAHAHA!

Kim, Emily is right on with the pro-tekt, and it is also helpful for drought and heat tolerance. I think it was Greg who said it made his leaves look plastic, as in perfect, and it really does. You still roasting up your way?

Did a naughty and stupid thing today, I don't know where my brain goes when I start focusing on my plumie's. So I have all these cuttings snuggled up happily on a heat mat all bagged. Well out of left field, I HAD to pot some, 3 to be exact. To give myself a very tiny little break, one has 4 substantial leaves and it was ready for a drink. The bag rooting instructions are VERY clear that you are not to pot until you can SEE roots, ugh, I am hopeless. I strained my little eyeballs for roots and kept mistaking perlite for roots (mind over matter) The instructions also say to inject the bag with water when the time comes... yep, ignored that too. So anyway, they are potted, I did my absolute best not to disturb the roots although that was quite difficult. Hoping the best for these babies. I think I need some kind of plant warden to keep me on my best behavior. lol. By the way, the others have significant inflos and leaves, they NEED water..... ya, sure they do Wendy.

Wendy, I hope all turns out well with your cuttings, that "what have I done?" feeling is a killer, but hopefully don't beat yourself up too much. If you keep them warm and put yourself on plumie probation (LOL!) I bet you they will be alright! And yes, where did you get those perfecdt little pots?!

Thanks Jen! The WalMart DR's all had the same color flowert on the tags. However, of course if you buy the grafted ones I think it's a big mysetery what you'll get & Marie said her GF got a double flower on a graft from there. I still prefer non-grafted though.

Thanks for the moral support, so far nothing appears to be dying... yet. ;o)

I found my Pro TeKt at my Hydroponics store. They carried Dyna Pro products and ordered it for me. I still have to order Foliage Pro on Line tho.. Go Figure!!!

I am so impressed with all of the trees/seedlings.. They all look so healthy!! Way to go!!!

Kim.. How is your Bill doing? We will all be interested to hear how it roots . I hope ANdrew finds one.. He really likes tht one!!! I think you can deactivate the traps... He wont try and take yours.. I was just kidding. We all kno what it feels like to have people help themselves to your treess. Not a great feeling. He knows that i was kidding..Hopefully everyone else knows i was just playing around. Its not nice to "snip" someones trees... ever...

I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend.. I just came home from a 4 day trip and i will say that it is one of the busiest weekends to fly.. ARggg! Im beat..

My weekend starts tomorrow!!! : ) Although, i just did an inspection on my trees and had to water cuz they were so dry. Lost one inflo, but found several others popping up. Having some Thrip damage too! What do you all like to use for Thrip control?

Thanks,

Laura

For about 3 hours it can be toxic to birds and such but since you spray that type of stuff at sundown anyways, it's fine. I think I did accidentally kill a spider spraying it directly on him (I really didn't mean to) but how do you spray anything effective without accidentally getting some innocent bystanders?!

I had / have a huge thrip problem so I needed to reduce their numbers without throwing all the good insects out of whack. So far I see marked improvement in my leaf formations and growth, but of course it's an ongoing battle.

Where I live, there is no hydroponics store which is the downfall to living in a smaller town where we don't have access to bigger stores and better things.

And some good news, the leaves are finally opening on Key West Red. :)

I did peel open a couple of flowers and I know they are going to be gorgeous when I do finally get them - either a deep pink or red with some orange or yellow in the center. I have some cuttings that are so far ahead of these that I needed to do it for the health of the cuttings. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

Do plants usually still branch if you've cut off the inflo?

It seems like all the hot temps (90s) have left and now we are having a cool front (70s to low 80s) :( . Such a bummer because my penang peach's bud is getting bigger. What if I put a heat lamp on it, will that intensify it's color like the sun/hot temps would?

Thumberlina - Has 9 leaves now.

Penang Peach - The lonesome bud is getting bigger. I wish the hot heat would come back to intensify the colors. Should be back this Saturday.

Inca Gold - I've notice with IG that it doesn't like full sun because I noticed after I brought it in due to the rain, the wrinkles went away but yesterday when I sit it outside in the sun, they came back. Strange...

Key West Red (infront) & Neon Lights - KWR has a few small leaves opening & NL has 1 leaf opened with shiny tips.

Bill Moragne - Has 3 leaves opened now, soon working on it's 4th.

Kimo - Has about 6-7 leaves now.

Maui Beauty - Has about 9 leaves now since the inflo is gone.

I didn't take a picture of the big mystery one because it looks the same, leaves leaves leaves! LOL Now for the seedlings.

My newest batch. I finally got Queen of Hearts (b. left row) to germinate & Julie Moragne (b. right row) as well. The other ones are Kaneohe Sunset & Celadine.

Kaleinani - Getting there. :)

Vera Cruz Rose - One is 7 inches already and the other on the right is branching! Never had that happen to me with a seedling. Excited to see how it grows. :)

Since I couldn't buy anymore cuttings now, I purchased some more seeds, yep that's my confession. :D They were mailed yesterday so I should have them by Wednesday. I got plastic pink, pink abby (oz), heart of gold (oz), daeng rachon (sp?), church ruffles, & phet chompoo (sp?).

Kim, you crack me up, thank goodness we can all afford to buy seeds even when our budget runs out for cuttings! It at least satisfies that urge for MORE MORE MORE.

Emily and Peg- I think I am also rowing along in your boat with the inflo situation. I seem to be at a stall point with my leaves, but the bloom on my Penang Peach is getting quite big and looks BEAUTIFUL... can't I just wait until 1 opens?? Will that be terribly harmful you think?

My gamble paid off on potting up the bagged cuttings, they are THRIVING. They just love the sun and are growing quickly now. PHEW. But now I want to go ahead and pot up the rest, lol. Knowing me it won't be long. The hubby is out of town again in a few days, think I have my project. ;o)

Hope everyone is having a great day!

Wendy

My seedlings are getting bushy and branchey, I am loving it!! I don't think I can pinch anything off just yet, I just want them to do as they will. One has very pronounced branching, already forming a nice Y shaped tree, I am excited. I still bring them in nightly but they've been without a heat mat for quite some time. We are still hovering between 55-59 degrees at night, I am just not ready to put them out 24/7.

Cuttings are doing REALLY well so a few of them have been transitioned to inside at night but no heat mat. Yay! I think my favorites so far are 'Hausten White' which I didn't even want but the guy sold it for a dollar at the PSA sale- it is taking on a beautiful shape while still being slim stemmed and I think lovely, and then my waimea which was 1 tipped but is strongly developing 3! So rewarding. I have so many, good grief!

I discovered an inflo on my JJ's 'Divine' what a treat. I am looking forward to a fragrant and beautiful summer.

Cheers,
Wendy

How about everyone else?

Almost open

What it looks like as of now:

Even though it doesn't have it's true colors, I still think it looks good. It fascinates me how it smells exactly like a peach, that's what tickled me the most. :)

Wendy, you're also doing a fantastic job with your plants, I can't believe how beautiful they are!!! It's a workout to water them all, that's for sure - since there's usually something to be added it's not just as simple as bringing out the hose.

Ya know, since I have been spraying with the Spinosad my seedlings are looking SO much better - I also have to spray the tips of my cuttings. (which reminds me, I need to spray, DOH!)If you see any deformed leaves or flowers or leaves with irregular edges, that's a sign of thrips. I'm glad to hear your spray down is helping with whatever was affecting your plants.

I'll try to post some pictures soon, I promise!

It's also time for me to take some of the ones 2 and 3 to a pot and give them their own pot so I will hopefully take some pics this weekend too.

Having them bounce back and look good and healthy just gets me itching to plant more seeds!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank goodness something is helping them, I was very worried there for a bit!

Mindy

I'm not going to say anything other than how cute your seedlings are, Minderella! :)

what is funny?

Mindy

Sorry. I'm getting old, my eyes aren't so good

Emily, what to say about your stalled situation? I've gotten brave, or sensitive after my hubby gave me a hard time about moving everything around all the time, and have left all but my brand new cuttings outside and they are absolutely doing better than spending the night on the heat mat- where are yours overnight?

I resisted cutting the infos and it seems that the leaves are starting to slowly grow out. We've got a bad case of June Gloom here in San Diego which isn't doing us any favors.

Kim- it is INCREDIBLE that Penang Peach smells so peachy. I gave my husband a sniff and that was the first word out of his mouth. The blooms are smaller than I anticipated, but not sure why I expected them to be larger.

Side note, has anyone noticed that the color of the inflo is closely related to the color of the flower? My Thai Splash inflos are all dark red, my Inca is a yellow/gold color, etc.... kind of neat. I am excited by this theory as remember that beautiful tree I 'accidentally' picked up at JJ's? Well the inflos are getting reddish, so maybe it is something neat?!?!!? We should know by the end of the month, I HOPE. My mystery MPG cutting is also quite close to blooming, and looks lovely as it right now, I should snap a photo. IT looks like we can now upload photos directly through Gweb, how super convenient!

Wendy, thats interesting about the difference in being moved in and out versus stationary. I've been able to leave mine out for a while now but did that every day for quite a while! I'm sure it is ideal for them just being left alone- earlier in the season though you don't really have a choice because it's so warm in the daytime and you have to take advantage! What are your nighttime temps now?

I've been really trying to figure out the stall and I did see that my Penang Peach, which has done pretty much nothing - and was my first non-MPG purchase has an inflo trying to come out, so maybe that's what's stalling an already slow grower? It's not soft or dark, it just isn't leafing and the most minute bit of clawing, but then now there's the little inflo, too small to nip. I think the mystery with the inflo I cut is trying, it's just super slow? Not soft or dark. Jeannie Cecile seems to be getting longer leaves now that the inflo was cut.

My Kaneohe Sunburst tipped over for the 2nd time (thank god it didn't break the tips) so I decided it was time for drastic measures - I transplanted to a larger pot and it's a good thing - it was getting rootbound in it's first, smaller pot. I saw little roots coming out of the bottom but this one also had a lot of leafing.

My seedlings I planted 2-3 months ago were rootbound, I had to transplant them into much larger containers - heads up fellow seedling growers! They were in smaller Azalea pots and I had to plant them in pots much larger!!!

And for other news, I have a inca gold bloom. Not has yellow as I hoped for but yet again it can't stand full sun as of yet. :) It has a smell, but I'm not quiet sure what it smells like. I heard it smells like jasmine, but Im not familiar with that flower or it's smell. I don't really know how to describe it.

I just love all of the pics...

KIm.. Your Penang Peach is just lovely!! Isn't it wonderful to smell that peach scent? I love it!!!

Mindy,

You seedlings look great too! LOVE the WORM!! : ) i also had to chuckle out loud at the worm... i have not seen those before...especially at the side view.. They look wonderful!!! I also thought of "hotdog.." : )

Emily... your trees are probably just adjusting.. Im sure you will see growth again soon!

Wendy.. How are you!!! Love your pics too!

Hi Moonie!!!

Question? Where did you all find the Spinosad? I can't seem to find it here in my area.

Thanks for all of the updates... Everything looks great!!

Take care,

Laura

But my mom that's a different story. She has yet to be amazed by plumerias, even their wonderful fragrances. She likes to call them "jungle flowers". LOL

Penang Peach is my best performer. Congrats on the bloom.

I agree about PP kms2. It's a defiant must have. I loved mine, even though I just had one bloom. ;)

Here are a few picture updates of my cuttings!
My Kaneohe Sunburst, which had to be repotted this weekend due to tipping over TWICE and being a bit rootbound. Much more stable now, and at least I know for sure, she is rooted!

Kimo, with the blooms and Kimi Beauty.

Kimo bloom :)

Penang Peach which I recently realized is starting an inflo, which may explain it's painfully slow progress. I'm FINALLY starting to see a tiny bit of clawing. This was potted before many of my cuttings that are much more leafed. It looked almost sealed up at the tips and I confess, I picked at the tips a tiny bit to try and stimulate it.

Gloria Schmidt.

Maui Beauty on the left, and it's really hard to tell but it has a DOUBLE inflo!!! I think that's my mstery on the right (that's the one I had to cut the inflo off of because it was so stalled. Mystery was potted the same time as my Knaeohe Sunburst, Maui Beauty way after, so you can see the huge difference in progress.)

Gina on the left, Loretta on the right.

Jeannie Cecile on the left, which I also had to cut an inflo off of - finally getting some good leafing action. Gloria snuck in on the right:

My other mystery cutting, with Kimi B. in the background:

Pauahi Alii:

And I'll post some seedling update pics, I tried but they are kind of hard to see unless I close up on each one - here's one of my crazy branching Intense Rainbow seedlings:

How old is the branching seedling?

Mindy

Since my bill moragne had slight wrinkles, it made me concerned about it (I'm a worrier to begin with!) so I decided to check the soil & the cutting by carefully peeping (b/c its notorious to be a hard rooter) at it an I noticed it had 1 tiny root on one side. A couple days later I wanted to see if the other side had any so I know wither to water it more or not and the other side has a couple roots (maybe more?) too but a little longer than the other ones, I'd say maybe 1/2 an inch give or say. Should I be worried about the wrinkles? Does it want more water now that it has some form of roots? Or should I stay to watering around the rim due to these hot temps when the dirt appears dry? To my recollection, it didn't get wrinkles until the temps got to about 90F where it gets full sun anywhere from 12 noon to about 7PM. I also noticed there wasn't any wrinkles on the cutting that was submerged in the dirt, they are only apparent on the top & 1/2 down the cutting. My neon lights was sort of like this a couple days ago when I discovered that my dirt was bone dry so I gave it some water around the rim b/c it's currently in the process of rooting an I noticed that the wrinkles weren't as apparent anymore and that it firmed back up (just a slight give, which BM sorta has). What do you think I should do??

BTW, Thumberlina & Penang Peach has rooted! :)

All of my plants are rooting well, but I seem to have a stall on candy stripe and Siam Ruby. Siam was pushing a heavy inflo and throwing some incredible flowers.... I cut it this morning. My hubby caught me in the act and was mortified, I think he was concerned I may have lost my mind as he knows how I treasure my blooms. So that likely explains the Siam, but what's up with candy stripe?? It put out probably 10 small unopened leaves on each of the two tips, but now nothing is progressing. Any tips?

Penang Peach is rooted and blooming up a storm! Here's a pic...

Now how about that Penang Peach? Doesn't that baby smell like heaven?? Oh I loved mine, it was delicious even though I don't like peaches. After the inflo was done, it is putting out 2 branches, maybe 3, not sure, but I know I defiantly have at least 2.

My neon lights has about 7 or so leaves opened now. It is truly benefiting from this warm weather. :)

Mindy

My mystery cutting that was shooting out that giant inflo still hasn't done much since I cut off the inflo either. My Jeannie Cecile is finally starting to make some real leaves since the inflo was cut, it's just slow going. She's got more than the other two though at least! All of my others are doing great and doing their thing, getting leafier!

My Maui Beauty opened a few blooms for me too even though it's not fully rooted yet! I may cut this one after a few blooms too just to speed it up. I took no less than 6 pictures of this bloom to show you all and NONE of them turned out!!!

However, I did come home to a lovely show yesterday from NOID white I bought at HEB a year or two ago - Celadine? - and the smell is AMAAAAAAAZING!!!!!!

Not a bad idea about poking it to stimulate a little, I am going to give that a try, thanks Emily!

My seedlings are unusual, they've all been transplanted and survived that just fine, but they are all SO dark. There's growth but not quickly like it was at first. Does everybody stil have their seedlings out in the sun??

Best,
Wendy

On the poking - someone suggested a very light scraping with sandpaper can stimulate and even induce branching! I did my scraping by fingernail before I read that - do you have one that's trying to smooth over?

My seedlings are still in the sun and doing great with it - I have reduced their evening sun time a little to give them a break from our excessive heat but they still get sun for about 8 hours I think, I'll have to really check this weekend. I only had a couple, maybe 3 that were really dark but one of them seems to be lightening up, I'm not sure about the other 2...I'll check. If you get a chance I'd love to see a picture!

Emily, yours looks like it's the same as a NOID I picked up in Houston when my obsession was just starting. This looks very much like Lemon Chiffon:

And I finally got a picture of my Maui beauty to share:

And I posted this pic in my Kimo bloom thread but it's so awesome I have to post it here too - these are a couple of faded blooms that look so different from the very saturated ones but just as lovely!

Finally got my Hula Girl *swoon*

Since following some advice I was given, Bill Moragne has decided to sprout a new leaf, plus 2 more which should open in about a week. :)

Thumberlina has many many leaves, a slow grower but still lots of leaves!

Kimo, getting more leaves.

After Penang Peach was done blooming, it has been spitting out leaves left and right. It has 2 new branches from the inflo, possibly 3, just not sure on the 3rd one yet.

Inca Gold, almost done blooming, just a few buds left. Since giving it protekt, it has been tolerating the heat a lot better, a lot less wrinkles because of it! :)

Neon Lights, my last rooting cutting I purchase at the end of may now has about 17 leaves.

Seedlings

My mystery inflo, getting redder by the day. I now know that it's gonna defiantly be a red, hopefully a nice one. I can't wait for it to open. It's like a little kid waiting for Christmas presents! :)

Kim, you're doing great with all your cuttings! I'm so impressed that Bill Moragne is cooperating for you.

If I had to guess, I'd say your mystery will open yellow with a prominent red stripe that bleeds through. It's gonna be a beauty!

My just by chance super score today, word had it that it was the only place carrying any JJ's plumeria anywhere for at least hundreds of miles - a nursery in the middle of nowhere, specializing in water gardens and ponds. Word has been out for weeks now but this was my first chance to go. There was one Divine left. 6 tips, 3ft tall and all gorgeous and healthy looking! Now I see why everyone loves their plants so much!

SCORE!!!

Wow, great find, congrats!! I love multicolored / rainbow plumies, they are my favorite. :)

Wendy

Those are some healthy looking trees. That Bill Moragne is looking great! You have done such a nice job on all of your trees.. quite impressive!! : ) Love the Kimo. The color is just beautiful..

Emily.. Great find on the Divine. I agree, this is one to have. Nice compact growth habit and a strong blooming tree. I just love everything about the Divine.

Congratulations!

Hello to everyone!!

Take care,

Laura

I wonder if, like Barbra said, they had other JJs tucked in the back somewhere. I can't imagine there are so many plumeria enthusiasts willing to pay $50 in S.A. that they snapped up nearly all of them in only two weeks.

I think I was too afraid I would have some tough decisions to make and not enough money!!! We should call...but I'm afraid!!! I know there may not be many plumie lovers in this area, but for anyone who does these plants were a STEAL at $50!

Besides one of my noids, this is my largest plant. My other 2 noids are taller but don't have more tips they're just leggy, and only 1 of them has 6 tips because it bloomed, so this is a real treat for me!

Will it be nagging me in the back of my head that I get paid on Friday? Yes. Will I go back? I don't know, it's pretty far, but stranger things have happened. :)

At long last, pics of my seedlings. What do you guys think? I know I am not completely frying them because they have been outside 100% for awhile now, but don't they look kinda fried anyhow? Maybe they are fried?
Row o' seedlings:

Wendy, I think you need to spray for thrips. I see a few of the irregular leaves in shape and size (some look very good though!) and the mottled appearance / fried appearance on some leaves can definitely be due to that. Also, there are some areas that look like they've been chomped. The seedlings are hit a lot harder by the thrips than the more mature plants. I do notice you have some of the branching, which is awesome! I think if you sprayed them they would also grow faster, the thrips stunt them. They can handle the spinosad, it's fairly mild.

Also, are you fertilizing them? Because they can handle that too. if you still feel like they're frying, make sure the wall isn't too reflective / bright one them.

Also, on a side note, I saw your post about trying the DR seeds again and it's JUST LIKE plumeria seeds except for 2 things: 1.) Germinate in straight potting soil, don't alter it with perlite or anything. 2.) Only cover the seeds with about 1/4" of soil, just a light cover. Other than that, mist them and keep them that perfect moist, keep them warm and in a few short days with good seeds you'll see them start coming up!

So that I'm not boring you all and repeating myself, please see my thread titled "Scratching / Sanding to Induce Branching" to read about my most exciting discovery regarding my Penang Peach :) It also started getting REAL LEAVES!!!

My Pauahi Alii which was a single tip and had an inflo I had to cut is branching!!!

My Moragne #78 that recently arrived had several small 1" leaves left on it but I see about 3 really bright green 1" leaves that popped up that have got to be new!!! Sorry no pic, soon though!

Just for fun, a pic of this guy just because he was awesome looking and so different from the white spiders I see on the plants all the time. He DID NOT want his picture taken and would pop behind something if I got any closer to him.

And a pic of a Divine bloom that was very happy with the recent weather!

Several of my other cuttings are getting going rooting too like Loretta, Gloria Schmidt and Gina. Had to cut the inflo off my Maui Beauty because it's getting a little wrinkled and needs to grow leaves instead of flowers.

I'm sure the answer is "because plumies do what they want and you are not the boss of them" is the answer, but I still have to ask, why do some of them branch after an inflo and some of them don't???!!! (...has visions of scratching several plumie tips...)

Here's my recent setup for some of my plumies - the white pot is the Divine and that one's plunged in the ground. The others are sitting on the ground with 3 pieces of rebar around the sides of the pots - that idea has a been a true life saver!!! My Divine had about 4 inflos on it when I bought it and now it's putting out 3 brand new ones you can't see in the pics!

Pauahi Alii on the left, Divine on the right.

Divine peeking in there on the left, Kaneohe Sunburst in the middle and Mystery on the right.

Kimi Beauty is the main one and peeking in at the bottom is one of my newest additions, a rooted Madame Pele!

Kimo.

Penang Peach, Loretta and Gloria Schmidt.

My Gina is finally rooting!!! Jeez, that took an eternity!!! I have a mystery, a Maui Beauty and a Jeannie Cecile on their second try at rooting. I really hope they make it.

My Moragne #78 is still trying to root also.

Here's a disturbing (Ha!) shot of aaaaalmost all of my seedlings.
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I did a quick count and I have about 59 Adenium seedlings alone. OH MY! I must have at least 40 plumeria seedlings I would guess...I'll have to count!